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Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773434)
5/80 is what he signed - with a 16MM club option tacked on the end. (5MM buyout so I guess the deal is really 6/96 or 5/85)
According to Baseball Reference, it was 5/88.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...html#contracts

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 08:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9773391)
Yeah, it's not a two-year window. Gordon through '16. Hosmer through '18. Etc.
Gordon's 2016 option is a player option so that's not correct. Hosmer? Jeez, you're argument can't be based on Eric Hosmer making us a winner.


Quote:
There was a reason why Rany went on suicide watch when the trade went down last winter, and it's not because DM suddenly became savvy.
Rany is ok but here's what he predicted about Hosmer before last year:

"He hit .313 and slugged .493 after the All-Star Break; both numbers seem like reasonable approximations for what he can do next season. Any better than that, and he’s a candidate to make the All-Star team in front of his hometown fans."
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2011/...art-three.html

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:11 PM
5 years/$80M (2013-17), plus 2018 option. Re-signed by Detroit as a free agent 12/14/12. $4M signing bonus. 13:$8M, 14:$15M, 15:$16M, 16:$16M, 17:$16M, 18:$16M club option, $5M buyout.


Straight off Baseball Prospectus.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:12 PM
so 5/80 or 6/96.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9773436)
Reports were that Anibal got that much from Detroit because Detroit felt pressure to make a move after the Royals traded for James Shields.
While that may be true, I remain unconvinced that Mr. Wal-Mart would have approved of the deal. Reports surfaced Cubs offered Anibal a 5/78 deal before the Tigers signed him.

Anibal was getting a huge payday with or without the deal for James.

FYI- I still disliked the trade when it happened, but this doomsday style meltdown is rather ridiculous.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:13 PM
I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773449)
I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.
So what would you have given up? (I'm ready for an insane Baltimore Orioles fan kinda proposal here). What does it cost to get a starter who goes 200 IP with 200K his prior two seasons?


A bucket of shag balls and a Christmas card?

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9773452)
So what would you have given up? (I'm ready for an insane Baltimore Orioles fan kinda proposal here). What does it cost to get a starter who goes 200 IP with 200K his prior two seasons?


A bucket of shag balls and a Christmas card?
The key point here is that we only have two years of control of Shields. We gave up six years of every prospect we sent in that deal. I would have turned the deal down - and that's not unreasonable, if not simply because Frenchy is SOOOO terrible that Myers replacing Frenchy is undoubtedly worth more wins than Shields over whomever we could have acquired with 12 or 18 million in free agency dollars.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773449)
I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.
I'm attempting to find a post made by a member on here. The member attended a luncheon featuring Dayton Moore. I'm almost positive that whoever it was that attended claimed that Moore mentioned that Moose (I believe he also mentioned Hosmer or Perez) could have been traded instead of Myers.

Hootie 06-24-2013 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9773316)
If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.
I totally 100% agree.

But since we traded him you know he's going to turn into a 40 HR a year hitter.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9773457)
I'm attempting to find a post made by a member on here. He attended a luncheon featuring Dayton Moore. I'm almost positive that whoever attended the luncheon claimed that Moose (I believe he also mentioned Hosmer or Perez) could have been traded instead of Myers.
Why send any of them though. This team was not ready for a win now push.

Sure-Oz 06-24-2013 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773462)
Why send any of them though. This team was not ready for a win now push.
You're a GM that is desperate for an extension

Hootie 06-24-2013 08:22 PM
it is what it is

but revisionist history me says I wish we would have given them Moose AND Hosmer AND Odrizzi (or however you spell it) and kept Myers ROFL

I realize they are young but Moose has just looked so bad.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:24 PM
Hos still has tremendous upside. He is simplifying his swing again and making great contact. Moose is coming around a bit as well. Maybe GB can push the right buttons for him and he will turn out. The upside is still there. For both.

LoneWolf 06-24-2013 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by unnecessary drama (Post 9773465)
it is what it is

but revisionist history me says I wish we would have given them Moose AND Hosmer AND Odrizzi (or however you spell it) and kept Myers ROFL

I realize they are young but Moose has just looked so bad.
Moose has shown signs of coming out of it. I admit its been a very small sample size, but I believe he has 4 multi-hit games out of his last 5 played.

Hootie 06-24-2013 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773471)
Hos still has tremendous upside. He is simplifying his swing again and making great contact. Moose is coming around a bit as well. Maybe GB can push the right buttons for him and he will turn out. The upside is still there. For both.
Lets pray.

You can't without hitting homeruns. Or at least doubles. Preferably both.

Both of these guys have to be perennial 25-30 HR guys.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 9363470)
I got to hear Dayton Moore speak today at the Tiger Club of KC over lunch. I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a DM fan, but I was pleasantly surprised at his candor. I thought he was a very good speaker. Anyway, I thought some might like a recap, so I will do my best. Sorry if this is all Q.

1. Rays wanted Yordano Ventura instead of of Odorizzi and Montgomery. Says Ventura is considered by most to be a better prospect than both.

2. In order to get Shields, had to part with One of: Moose, Hosmer, Perez, Escobar or Myers. Said he didn't want to part with two great players in the middle of the defense, and didn't want to give up known commodities in Hosmer and Moose, so Myers was the only choice.

3. Explained how high he was on Cain and how important and talented he is. Said hes seeing doctors, nutritionists, etc., to hopefully minimize his injury issues.

4. Not earth shattering, but i found it interesting. He talked a little bit Gordon's swing and how, due to him being right-handed naturally, but hitting left-handed (and because he's right eye dominant -I might have that backwards), results in a swing that loops down into the zone and cause him to strikeout more. Said he also releases his right hand early, which also contributes to strikeouts (that's probably common knowledge, but I don't much about the details of baseball).

5. More on Gordon: he said that Gordon attributes his recent success to Seitzer, but that Gordon has it figured out and should be fine with new hitting coach.

6. Some guy asked about Hochevar and his contract. DM said he wasn't sure he'd make the club out of spring training. He also said that if we didn't sign him, there would be 29 other clubs who would, and that he would be considered the "dumbest GM in baseball." Contract is not guaranteed.

7. He talked a little but about their process in scouting and signing Latin American players. Said they are getting a good reputation for taking care of and developing kids from those areas. He also said he is one of only two GMs who actually travel to the country and sit down and with the prospect and his family and discuss the Royals' plan for them.

8. When he first arrived, they had three players in farm system who they thought was worth anything. Butler, Gordon and Greinke, and Greinke quit before spring training. said we have come a long way since then. And the farm system isn't as good as 2010, but still very good (what else is he going to say?).

9. He mentioned that KC and other small markets have to learn how to compete in an unfair system. They aren't making excuses, they just have to learn how to do it.

10.He was asked about finding a new right fielder and second baseman, and he said we are going with what we got. Said Getz and Francoeur come to work with great attitudes, they work hard, and the players love them (and Hochevar FWIW). Said that Getz keeps Escobar and Hosmer focused, whatever that means.

11. He said that Starling and Mondesi have the potential to be game changers.

12. He talked quite a bit about winning now, and not waiting until next year. Said we have to learn how to win with our young players....

13. Crow staying in bullpen. He is dominant there, but maybe only a #5 starter in the rotation.

14. Some guy who was about 97 years old I think asked DM if ever considered getting Alex Gordon's eyes checked. ROFL I think it must have been the years of ineptitude building up inside him, because he was talking to Dayton like he was an idiot. It was pretty funny. Dayton answered it well, said yes they have had his eyes checked, and everybody gets their vision checked constantly throughout the season. He said many players have 20/15 vision. He also said Billy Butler had maybe worst vision on the team, but he got it corrected.

I know that's not really much new information, but I thought a few might be interested.

Found it. There's some pretty amazing material in here, ladies and gents.

At the very least, if Myers blows up and our season is over by July, take comfort in the fact that the grit-loving man with the "scout's eye" (one for team chemistry builders) will likely be gone by 2014.

Sure-Oz 06-24-2013 08:27 PM
I would LOVE a reporter to go at Ned Yost with this....

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...195313826.html

KevB 06-24-2013 08:36 PM
Puig now has more home runs in 20 games than any Royal in 73 games.

Al Bundy 06-24-2013 08:45 PM
Tom Krasniqi ‏@TKras 16m

Joe Maddon says Wil Myers is "not overwhelmed whatsoever" and that the "ball comes off the bat hot". No kidding #Rays

siberian khatru 06-24-2013 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9773526)
Tom Krasniqi ‏@TKras 16m

Joe Maddon says Wil Myers is "not overwhelmed whatsoever" and that the "ball comes off the bat hot". No kidding #Rays
Dayton Moore says Myers would be overwhelmed by Kauffman Stadium's large parking lot.

tk13 06-24-2013 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9773590)
Dayton Moore says Myers would be overwhelmed by Kauffman Stadium's large parking lot.
I know you're trying to be funny, but I hope you realize the thickness of the BBQ smoke makes it harder to hit home runs.

Deberg_1990 06-24-2013 09:04 PM
No spot for Myers on this team. Francour provides too much leadership.
Posted via Mobile Device

GloryDayz 06-24-2013 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9773590)
Dayton Moore says Myers would be overwhelmed by Kauffman Stadium's large parking lot.
They have a parking lot? Hmmmmmmf, who knew!!!!????

DeezNutz 06-24-2013 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9773590)
Dayton Moore says Myers would be overwhelmed by Kauffman Stadium's large parking lot.
I hate the truthiness in this post.

DM is, without question, a more personable version of Scott Pioli. Both are so ****ing stupid that it defies expectation.

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773456)
The key point here is that we only have two years of control of Shields. We gave up six years of every prospect we sent in that deal. I would have turned the deal down - and that's not unreasonable, if not simply because Frenchy is SOOOO terrible that Myers replacing Frenchy is undoubtedly worth more wins than Shields over whomever we could have acquired with 12 or 18 million in free agency dollars.
So you wouldn't have done the trade, fair enough. But the question is what it takes to get Shields. Myers was the cost for the acquisition. It wasn't an unfair trade on the face of it.

Hard to know who would sign here for 18M. Annibal Sanchez is a $90m investment and likely wouldn't come here. Edwin Jackson & Shaun Marcum were tossed around as options but they are a combined 3-18 (though they've pitched a bit better than that). Who did you have in mind? Brandon McCarthy was another name but he's got a 5 era for Arizona.

Bambi 06-24-2013 09:52 PM
No one on the Royals roster can hit a ball like Myers did tonight. Not one.

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 09:54 PM
The $8million fat-ass at DH is a huge problem this year and he seems to skate from these discussions. Out of 160 qualifiers, he's a dreadful 114th in slugging at .390 (behind Chris Donofria of SD).

Hootie 06-24-2013 09:57 PM
Butler has been bad this year...but he's a great hitter. He'll bust out of it.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 10:00 PM
If the players who are supposed to be playing well, hosmer, Gordon, moose, butler we would be right in the thick of things.

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9773686)
If the players who are supposed to be playing well, hosmer, Gordon, moose, butler we would be right in the thick of things.
Precisely. And fans want to talk about Wil Myers instead.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 11:01 PM
The point isn't Wil Myers now. The point is that the team wasn't ready for a win-now push. Therefore, we should not have made the trade. If the offense had broken out, we may have missed a good opportunity, but we would certainly have had $$$ to address pitching via free agency.

BigMeatballDave 06-24-2013 11:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9773678)
The $8million fat-ass at DH is a huge problem this year and he seems to skate from these discussions. Out of 160 qualifiers, he's a dreadful 114th in slugging at .390 (behind Chris Donofria of SD).
Butler kind of gets a pass here because of how good he's been in the past, particularly last season.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 11:13 PM
How every hitter in our organization has regressed from last year has got to be an indictment of the major league development/coaching process. That doesn't let DM off the hook, because those are his guys implementing his reeruned philosophies (which apparently include a complete disregard for OBP as has been demonstrated by his acquisitions as well as coaching at the ML level.)

CaliforniaChief 06-24-2013 11:23 PM
Butler has NO protection in the lineup. He's pressing and doing things he hasn't done in the past. That's why we need a slug get now that we're all in with Shields.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 11:31 PM
You want to know what I'm still mad about?

When Texas (rumoredly) offered us Derek Holland for Joakim Soria (during his last year of prominence).

Sadz.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9773361)
If you want to say signing Frenchy was dumb, everyone agrees. But Myers wasn't playing this year with Gordon and Cain clear starters and $7m owed on French. Did you think we'd just park 7m on the bench?
He's been on the bench a good chunk of the time anyway, even without Myers here. He only has 23 at-bats this month.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9773394)
Having a great offense and five #3 starters isn't going to get you anywhere.
It's working pretty well for the Orioles. I'd much rather be in their position than the Royals the last couple of years.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 07:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9773500)
Puig now has more home runs in 20 games than any Royal in 73 games.
And more RBIs than Mike Moustakas has in 62 games.

:banghead:

sedated 06-25-2013 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773743)
The point is that the team wasn't ready for a win-now push. Therefore, we should not have made the trade.
Hindsight 20/20.

The offense was supposed to be good. And the defense. And the bullpen.

Had the front office KNOWN that the offense would be this bad top to bottom, they would have had no choice but to blow up the whole thing. I’m sure Royals fans would have loved that.

Prison Bitch 06-25-2013 08:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9773761)
Butler has NO protection in the lineup. He's pressing and doing things he hasn't done in the past. That's why we need a slug get now that we're all in with Shields.
But again, we're scoring about what we scored last year. Why wasn't he "pressing" last year?

Archie F. Swin 06-25-2013 10:32 AM
Just 'cause we haven't seen it in a while....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GwTLsM5n_1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

you know....Ned coming to the defense of his players (during games)

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9774309)
Just 'cause we haven't seen it in a while....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GwTLsM5n_1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

you know....Ned coming to the defense of his players (during games)
Did Jeff Montgomery seriously say they can't afford to lose Humberto Quintero this early in the ballgame? ROFL

CaliforniaChief 06-25-2013 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9774064)
But again, we're scoring about what we scored last year. Why wasn't he "pressing" last year?
Weren't Hosmer, Perez, and Moose (for awhile) producing at a much higher rate last year?

Bowser 06-25-2013 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9774309)
Just 'cause we haven't seen it in a while....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GwTLsM5n_1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

you know....Ned coming to the defense of his players (during games)
ALL CAPS FULL OF RAGE

Bowser 06-25-2013 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9774372)
Did Jeff Montgomery seriously say they can't afford to lose Humberto Quintero this early in the ballgame? ROFL
Yes he did. Yes, he did.

gblowfish 06-25-2013 11:36 AM
The only reason Ned got hot in that game was because we were playing Milwaukee, the team that canned him. He actually gave a rat's ass in that series.

WhawhaWhat 06-25-2013 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9774309)
Just 'cause we haven't seen it in a while....

you know....Ned coming to the defense of his players (during games)
I saw this one linked too. Right when Frenchy is about to draw the line in the dirt, you can see the ump saying "Don't! Don't!.." Frenchy draws the line. "Don't do that bullshit!" and the ump tosses him. I think I remember Frenchy saying after the game he knew he wasn't supposed to do that.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uU4bwgATl_c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sure-Oz 06-25-2013 01:58 PM
Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.

kcchiefsus 06-25-2013 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9774668)
Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.
Thank God, Herrera ****ing sucks.

LoneWolf 06-25-2013 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9774668)
Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.
Well, it is Summer, Summer, Summertime.

WhawhaWhat 06-25-2013 02:04 PM
#Royals vs. ATL RHP Medlen: Gordon 7, Escobar 6, Hosmer 3, Butler DH, Perez 2, Moustakas 5, Lough 9, Johnson 4, Dyson 8 and Santana 1

CaliforniaChief 06-25-2013 02:05 PM
I wish they would have called Giavotella up.

sedated 06-25-2013 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9774675)
#Royals vs. ATL RHP Medlen: Gordon 7, Escobar 6, Hosmer 3, Butler DH, Perez 2, Moustakas 5, Lough 9, Johnson 4, Dyson 8 and Santana 1
Why the F! is Escobar still batting 2nd? Its thoroughly baffling.

and Moose (.207) ahead of Lough (.299) doesn't make much sense either.

LoneWolf 06-25-2013 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9774680)
Why the F! is Escobar still batting 2nd? Its thoroughly baffling.

and Moose (.207) ahead of Lough (.299) doesn't make much sense either.
Moose has been much better the last handful of games. Maybe Ned is thinking that he is finally figured it out. I would rather see Lough and Escobar switched.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9774668)
Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.
I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).

GloryDayz 06-25-2013 02:58 PM
Umps crack me the **** up. Other than weathermen, and judges (and maybe a select few others) they have the best jobs in the world - you don't ever have to be right and many will come to your defense. One can only hope this is the last year that MLB baseball has to endure umpires that aren't at least second-guessed with the use of electronics to some degree. I say let them either work it by a set number of reviews by team, and an unlimited number "from the booth". I don't care how long the game takes. I have 15 more minutes for well-officiated games! Both ways!

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-25-2013 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9774747)
I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).
The WBC is what happened. Herrera, Rodney and Strop all look like crap this year.

Ceej 06-25-2013 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9774747)
I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).
He hasn't thrown his changeup much this year.

Last year that thing was devastating.

chefsos 06-25-2013 03:41 PM
Wait...you guys play two series with Atlanta this year? Do you get all the other NL East teams?

Damn. Just read up on it. The Braves have never been to KC before. I've wondered if there was an interleague matchup that hadn't happened yet.

DJ's left nut 06-25-2013 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9774789)
He hasn't thrown his changeup much this year.

Last year that thing was devastating.
He still throws it 23% of the time vs. 28% of the time last year.

And honestly, that's probably not because of design but because of pitch sequencing.

Like most guys with a devastating changeup, Herrera uses his has a putaway pitch and often when he's ahead in the count. If he can't get to a putaway count, he won't likely throw that changeup as often.

Looking through his situational stats, it looks like he starts about 1/2 the batters he faces with a ball. If you start from behind in the count, you're going to constantly be fighting to get out of 'fastball' counts to allow you to go to your off-speed stuff.

It looks to be a simple control issue to me. He can't get ahead of batters. Now even when he does, he's giving up a .316 BA and .887 OPS, but when he's behind his OPS jumps to a staggering 1.297 based largely on the strength of a near .800 Slg%.

When the guy falls behind, he gets crushed. And he's just falling behind way too much.

So you may be right in that his lack of changeup use is a problem. However, his lack of changeup use is a symptom, not the disease. The disease is erratic control that keeps him from getting into positive counts that allow him to go to his off-speed stuff. That control keeps him from using his best pitch and allows batters to tee off on him when he's forced to come to them rather than work the corners.

Prison Bitch 06-25-2013 04:07 PM
Most fans probably missed Dayton's craziest rant of the year (which is saying something!). That's when he tried to explain in the KC Star that sending Herrera down made sense but keeping Moose up was different. Why? Because "hitters need to face MLB pitching. There's no substitute."

One might have been thinking, well then what's the substitute for pitchers facing MLB hitting? And of course this would be sane. But sane is not how Dayton thinks. He makes shit up as he goes.

Three7s 06-25-2013 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9774883)
Most fans probably missed Dayton's craziest rant of the year (which is saying something!). That's when he tried to explain in the KC Star that sending Herrera down made sense but keeping Moose up was different. Why? Because "hitters need to face MLB pitching. There's no substitute."

One might have been thinking, well then what's the substitute for pitchers facing MLB hitting? And of course this would be sane. But sane is not how Dayton thinks. He makes shit up as he goes.
He hates bad pitching. He doesn't mind a bad offense.

Ceej 06-25-2013 04:22 PM
@DJ

i based that off of my own opinion. I thought before he was originally demoted he wasn't throwing it nearly as often.

Maybe it isn't nearly as effective as last year's.

But, him overthrowing has been blatant this year. Overthrows, falls behind in the count, then throws a high 90s meatball right down the middle.

Boom.

KCGal 06-25-2013 09:19 PM
Ned must go. He babies them. He expects development not winning. He gets what he expects. If I hear him talk about the "kids" one more time I'm going to lose it. Kids don't get millions of dollars to play freaking baseball. We're never going to get past .500 with him in charge.

GloryDayz 06-25-2013 09:54 PM
How much does the owner make "no matter how many games they lose"? That's all you need to know when you ask yourself why so many of these clowns are still around in this organization...

\thread

Sure-Oz 06-25-2013 09:56 PM
Pretty sure Dan Glass still thinks Myers is on the Royals

Sure-Oz 06-25-2013 09:57 PM
Royals have the exact same record as last year at this time.

SOB

Mama Hip Rockets 06-25-2013 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9774778)
The WBC is what happened. Herrera, Rodney and Strop all look like crap this year.
What about Miguel Cabrera, Yadier Molina, David Wright, Joe Mauer, Adrian Gonzalez, Nelson Cruz, Robinson Cano, Derek Holland, Gio Gonzalez, Wandy Rodriguez, Santiago Casilla, etc.?

AussieChiefsFan 06-26-2013 12:18 AM
Shame they couldn't eak out a win there. Is be happy with winning just one, if we can get the win tomorrow.

Archie F. Swin 06-26-2013 06:45 AM
Wow....I just looked at the July schedule. Surely by the end of next month we'll know for for sure of this Royals team is contender or pretender.

chefsos 06-26-2013 06:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9776206)
Wow....I just looked at the July schedule. Surely by the end of next month we'll know for for sure of this Royals team is contender or pretender.
I don't know how to say this without looking like a troll, but I think pretender is a couple levels up from where they are right now. That's a team that needs a spark (drill sgt. manager maybe?) in the worst way.

Archie F. Swin 06-26-2013 07:17 AM
So, is July 31st GMDM's deadline to make a move for a bat, or is it earlier?

Prison Bitch 06-26-2013 08:27 AM
All moot, the team can't hit the ball out of the infield. Not remotely competitive with legit teams. We're basically a Seattle.

WhawhaWhat 06-26-2013 01:31 PM
Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report
#Royals vs. ATL LHP Minor: Gordon 7, Escobar 6, Hosmer 3, Butler DH, Perez 2, Cain 8, Moustakas 5, Francoeur 9, Tejada 4 and Mendoza 1.

Lineup of doom.

WhawhaWhat 06-26-2013 01:31 PM
Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report
#Royals RH pitching prospects Yordano Ventura and Miguel Almonte selected for All-Star Futures Game on July 14 at Citi Field in New York.

Bowser 06-26-2013 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9777196)
Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report
#Royals RH pitching prospects Yordano Ventura and Miguel Almonte selected for All-Star Futures Game on July 14 at Citi Field in New York.
Can't wait to see what team(s) they will be pitching for when they finally make it to the big leagues!

Prison Bitch 06-26-2013 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9775935)
Royals have the exact same record as last year at this time.

SOB
I had to look that up to verify, but yes. Royals won their 4th straight, beating Minny on Friday June 29 last year to get to 35-39. What a disgusting factoid. Dayton should be confronted by a pack of reporters houdning him everywhere he goes to explain it.

chefsos 06-26-2013 01:58 PM
For those of you who want to laugh: Dylan Bundy's having TJ surgery. So, that will be all for him for a while.

Nightfyre 06-26-2013 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 9777274)
For those of you who want to laugh: Dylan Bundy's having TJ surgery. So, that will be all for him for a while.
How completely unrelated to the Royals. Please take O's laments to the O's thread. kBai


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