Actually, Columbia is a fantastic town, and the seamless blend from university to downtown makes for a great atmosphere.

LMAO

I've been to Manhattan, Ames, Lawrence, and Norman. I will plan on making one road game per year in the SEC.

We already established that he didn't. But that's only because the venues were not up to par. That's probably how all MU fans think which explains why they don't travel.

Columbia is a fantastic college town. The SEC isn't filled with glamorous destinations, but they are loaded with great college football venues.

I really am going to miss going against the old rivals. I mean, just look at this back and forth between the various fans of the assorted schools. That being said, two things -

1) It's going to be a blast forming new rivalries. Yes, we will take it on the chin against these teams the first coule of years, but it can only help us in the long run. If it don't kill ya.....

2) All the KU/KSU/Big XII fans cannot deny that if their schools were offered an opportunity to join the SEC and escape the Texas overlords, every single one of those schools would have jumped feet first at the opportunity. Don't lie, don't act like your school wold be above such actions for the sake of "tradition" or "rivals". You'd be being extremely dishonest with yourself. (I'm not sure of this point has been brought up in this thread or the other one yet, so I figured I'd throw it out there)


Missouri is doing what's best for Missouri, period.

If you honestly don't think the rivalry would take a significant hit if KU and MU weren't in the same conference, then arguing about this is moot.

I think it has a lot to do with being in the same conference.

Finally, someone that gets it.

COLUMBIA — Touting its independent arts scene, quantity of colleges, homecoming traditions and “healthy dose of Southern charm,” Columbia recently landed on Southern Living Magazine’s list of “The South’s Best College Towns.”

So what exactly makes Columbia a "fantastic college town" and Lawrence/Manhattan/Ames/pretty much every other Big 12 town shitty?

Not to answer for him, but who said that?

Congrats?

Hell, from what I hear, Ames is a kick ass college town.

I think they would be about in the same position in either conference football wise.

Those beautiful red-brick smokestacks strewn all over the place.

Sleeping giant

Thanks. You kind of walked right into that one.

The SEC agrees with you.

He didn't say it, but he has certainly implied it throughout the thread.

As a Mizzou fan, I would whole heartedly disagree with that sentiment.

LOL

Yeap, that was the deciding factor. How aesthetically [un*]pleasant Columbia is.

*In my subjective and biased opinion.

In your opinion. Maybe if they'd opened up a few Duds n Suds, Columbia would have a more authentic college town appeal?

Nothing at all. Football games at Memorial Stadium are electric.

Look, you ****ers. No matter where Mizzou plays, we will forever be rivals to KU and KSU. It's gotten to where we're arguing over town decor, for God's sake.

Yeah, I edited that for those who don't understand that tastes are subjective. You do, so you're good. :)

Maybe I'm taking this wrong....it's been said several times throughout the thread.

My lightning fast reflexes with the quote button has doomed you. :p

Ok, so you're just talking about football gameday experience. So we can exclude the prestigious Southern Magazines Top College Towns of the South.

Just my opinion, but I think that was more of a sarcastic reply to a sarcastic statement? Eh, I dunno. Name me a Big XII (or division I school, for that matter) that has a "boring atmosphere", especially on gameday.

Hell, Warrensburg and Maryville are pretty freaking fun college towns, or used to be. It's been awhile since I've been to either....

Are you somehow under the impression that I'm planning on enrolling at every SEC school? I'm not. I am more interested in having a fun weekend centered around a football game. Missouri had 74,000 at last week's game in a stadium with 69,500 seats. We're expecting around 70,000 this weekend, and this is a down year.

When Kansas has 30,000 people in the stands after the end of the third quarter, I'll re-evaluate my opinion of what Lawrence has to offer.

(As a college town, I actually love Larry. Mass street is fun, I am a huge fan of Free State Brewery, the Oread is a great hotel, and AFH is a really cool place to watch a game. It's worth the drive from JoCo, but I wouldn't make a destination of it if I lived farther away.)

Warrensburg's taken a huge shit. They basically shut down the bar district.

You left a few out as usual.

Larry agrees.

Interestingly enough that whole ordeal happened in College Town USA. Columbia, Missouri,

I also left out Lubbock, TX and Provo, UT.

To your point, that's still supposedly a badass place to watch college football. Shit, they were top 15 to end last season, weren't they?

The happiest place on Earth is Manhattan, Kansas.

Columbia Missouri? In the South? Hmmm........Or are they just saying that it is better than most Southern College towns?

South of the Mason Dixon.

I've been to the vet hospital there a few times and loved that place. I was just pimping it out yesterday to a lady I work with whose daughter was cosidering KSU among others.

it seems alot of st. louis fans are not happy about this. Do you guys think alternating this proposed "holiday" tournament from KC to STL would be a bad thing? or should we just wait for us to develop a rivalry on the east side and eventually start a annual neutral game in stl with that team as well? any other ideas? or should they just deal with it?

I think Southern Magazine is probably qualified to judge what exactly fits as Southern, but if you want to argue with them be my guest.

My name is KK, and the very mention of the SEC makes a bit of urine squeak out of my hang down.

ROFL, ok, you got me I guess. Columbia is just south of the exact center of the U.S. but don't see the Mason Dixon line. I would really like to see where it is in relationship to the MDL.

I am really trying to understand, honestly. I never thought of I-70 as being southern, seriously. The exact center of the U.S. is in Lebanon, Kansas, off of 36.

Of course, I argue with the Chicago people about being in the mid-west as well. In the 16 years of being up here, I don't think I have made a change in their minds. :D

So according to kk MU is on average going to be the 9th best team in the SEC.

Maybe I am a homer but outside of Alabama, Florida, and LSU being the top dogs who should MU really be afraid of and can't beat?

pro-slavery.

I think they could beat any of those teams, however...

The fact remains that MU hasn't won a conference title in 40 years, and now they are moving to a league that is top to bottom better than the Big XII.

:spock:

The idiots up here think anything past Kankakee is the South. :D

Kentucky, football powerhouse/saulgood

Right they could beat those remaining teams so I don't get why they would be any worse shape in the SEC than the Big 12 on average.

Because the Big 12 is great when KK is making one argument, and then the Big 12 is terrible when he makes a different one. He is very successful with this style of forming an argument, just go with it.

Exactly, when I look for scores from the Big 12 in the Tribune, usually they can be found in the Southwest, or West section. :spock: Sometimes they are actually in the Midwest category, but not always.

Did any of these ****ers ever look at a map?


**edit** sure be glad when they get done with the whoring, it is running real slow.

So if MU goes to the SEC which division are they going in?

Wasn't it agreed to that they'd be in the east due to Alabammy wanting to stay in division with Auburn and Tennessee?

DOWNTOWN BASEBALL! IT CAN WORK HERE!! KC NEEDS IT!!!

Since everyone is equal in the SEC, whatever Alabama decides.

I don't know that is why I am asking

omg guys if this isn't a rp i called it...

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=5526339

listen and enjoy, MIZ-SEC BABY!!

She literally has a better handle on the situation than KK.

actually ole Larry enjoyed quite a few house parties in Manhappiness as well.

saulgood is a female?

Wow, she was fired up and passionate. :blushing:

LMAO

That was awesome! I want to buy that woman a beer.

double post

What ku or ksu fan that wouldn't trade mizzou for louisville in a heartbeat? Yeah it will add a bit more footprint, but a better college, better facilities, and better town.

Honestly it we can drop Mizzou, get back to 12 with BYU, Louisville, and WVU we will be stronger than at 10 with Mizzou.

LMAO

That was awesome. Go Sherie.

I love the martial applications of logic by people in here and the media....

But but but.....it will be ALL KU's fault. Lol

If MU offers to play KU and KU refuses, then that is on KU. KU can say no, it is free to do so, and they can cite any reason they want, but for them to say it is Mizzou's fault would be a lie if Mizzou is willing to play them.

Yeah.....MU is totally free of any fault.

If they are willing to play KU, and are not making any ludicrous demands, then I don't see what fault you can hang Mizzou with. If KU wants to refuse and lose money on the deal, then they can live with that. Considering the state of the KU football program, they need a profitable game at Arrowhead with Mizzou much more than Mizzou does.

If it's not a conference game, what's the point? It's a shame and all, but the rivalry doesn't really mean anything if Missouri's in the SEC. JMO.

And that is a valid opinion. And if KU wants to say that the rivalry means nothing to them and they don't want to play Mizzou anymore, that is well within their rights and they can do that. But with that said, KU can't go around bitching and moaning about how it is Mizzou's fault when it is KU that is refusing to show up and play.

Disagree....MU leaves the conference then they are clearly saying they don't support the Big 12 and the teams in the Big 12...in essence they are seeking a divorce from the Big 12 schools. I can't imagine any big 12 team that would schedule MU under those circumstances nor can I envision any fans of schools in the Big 12 wanting to have anything to do with MU or A and M.

A lot of people would argue that giving up a non-conference game would be a ludicrous demand.

Who's going to bitch and moan? Honestly, I live right in the middle of KU territory and nobody's even thinking about it, let alone talking about it. Your school is directing this conversation to Kansas City, because KC stands to lose a lot of money in this deal.

Well, so be it.

But Mizzou's not leaving because they're pissed off at KU, KSU, ISU, etc. Texas and OU (and company) were ready to PACk up and leave us all swinging in the wind, until the Pac 10 said "no" to the LHN.

Now we have these 6 year "handcuffs", that they aren't willing to extend to 13... Why? Probably because they figure they might want to bail by then. (Or before, considering those schools can afford to eat the loss.)

Mizzou has a fantastic opportunity here. It really isn't personal. It's common sense.