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Sassy Squatch 01-31-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392352)
yes, but we do not run a pure WCO..and now with mahomes I think we will open it up even more

But we do run one. Even if its not pure.

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13392359)
so you make a claim that he was shit at deep passes

show me where I said this

I was talking about YAC yards vs AIR yards and how he is very low % wise compared to other QB's.......

I understand this season he had a crazy good year....but you are:

1) taking what I said about yac vs air and over ereacting

2) acting like i said smith had a bad year when i didnt

3) claiming i said smith was shit at deep passes this year



He had one good year of deep passes...and now he is gone....all I am saying is this year , like all of his others, his air yards versus YAC is quite low....he had a lot of yards this year ...but the % was still low

thats it

thanks alex smith , you had a great season...good enough to score us a great value trade...best of luck to you!!

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13392366)
But we do run one. Even if its not pure.

its not a "wco" we use the WCO sometimes....but we do other things too like a spread and RPO

using your logic you could just say "we run a RPO" but that would be not accurate too

we dont just "run a wco" that isnt correct

Best22 01-31-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392352)
yes, but we do not run a pure WCO..and now with mahomes I think we will open it up even more

Favre and the Packers used to run a WCO

NFL offenses have different flavors and styles. A WCO with Favre and one with Smith is gonna look different though

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13392387)
Favre and the Packers used to run a WCO

NFL offenses have different flavors and styles. A WCO with Favre and one with Smith is gonna look different though

i hope mahomes plays as long as favre!

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13392387)
NFL offenses have different flavors and styles. A WCO with Favre and one with Smith is gonna look different though

and mahomes will probably look more like favre than smith , IMO

Ragged Robin 01-31-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392379)
show me where I said this

hmm let's see:

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 13392272)
I could've sworn we had most 20+ yard passes, and most accurated 20+ yard passes...

I forsure know that our Most deep yards is #1

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392277)
its with yac, trust me

But okay, whatever.


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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392379)
He had one good year of deep passes...and now he is gone....

thanks alex smith , you had a great season...good enough to score us a great value trade...best of luck to you!!

See? That wasn't so hard was it? You can be reasonable once you dial back the unreasonable delusions :clap:

New World Order 01-31-2018 12:40 PM

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Pitt Gorilla 01-31-2018 12:41 PM

Again, I'm ecstatic about the trade. I will say, though, that Smith appeared to run the RPO to just about perfection. Unfortunately, that led to a lot of short throws. It'll be fun to see how Andy et al. implement these reads with Mahomes.

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13392403)
hmm let's see:

so where did I say he was 'shit'?

I said he was probably about 20th on air vs yac yards

I never said he was shit, as you claimed...

How bout you post up the list of yac vs air yards for 2017?

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13392409)
Again, I'm ecstatic about the trade. I will say, though, that Smith appeared to run the RPO to just about perfection.

this season, its hard to argue with that,,at least in most of the regular season

but in the losing streak, and in the second half of the titans game something went wrong ......

notorious 01-31-2018 12:45 PM

Even food tastes better today.

Ragged Robin 01-31-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392415)
so where did I say he was 'shit'?

I said he was probably about 20th on air vs yac yards

I never said he was shit, as you claimed...

How bout you post up the list of yac vs air yards for 2017?

Nah, I already proved my point that he lead the league in 20+ "air yard" throws. If you want to make a separate claim then the burden of proof is on you :clap: I don't really care either way about that one but I know for sure it's not over 50%.

Shields68 01-31-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13392379)
show me where I said this


I


He had one good year of deep passes...and now he is gone....all I am saying is this year , like all of his others, his air yards versus YAC is quite low....he had a lot of yards this year ...but the % was still low

thats it!

More by the eye test then anything, Smith lacks the arm strength to throw deep. His good year throwing deep was attributable to Tyreke being a freak. Most of his deep balls seemed to balloon and be behind Tyreke who was able to adjust and out battle DB's. It looked like he was throwing a back shoulder to someone 10 yards behind the DB.

Ming the Merciless 01-31-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13392423)
I don't really care either way about that one but I know for sure it's not over 50%.

yeah, its under 50

im guessing 45 or maybe less but i dont have any really good links to the 2017 advanced stats

i do care about it though, because when i see those charts, its the guys who have more % air yards (brady, ben) who seem to win afc champ games

and I would sure like to see us win one of those b4 i die


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