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Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 03:55 PM

I was hoping Clark would do to Pioli what Jimmy was doing to Karen in Goodfellas: Keep walking there, keep going lol trying to get her whacked

tooge 01-02-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 9269411)
Maybe his contract stipulates he has to be involved. If so Clark would be in breach of contract if he was not present during interviews.

He's there to carry Clarks bags and open his door. Maybe toss his salad right before bed.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269345)
Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.

I think you're overstating problems to fit an agenda here.

3 teams found immediate starting RBs in the draft last season, only 1 of which found that one late in the draft. Yes, finding a late-round RB is quite hard, especially when you also have a shit offensive line.

And how do you figure the Chiefs need to find 3 D-linemen? If they move to a 4-3, they'll need at most 1. If they stay in a 4-3, they'll probably only need 1 (Poe's going to get a shot and frankly he probably deserves it). Jackson will be an adequate stopgap, especially if properly coached.

And yes, it is absolutely difficult to just re-set your O-Line, easily as difficult as D-lineman (it's no easier to find a LT than it is to find a RDE). Sure, you can just draft someone and throw them in there...but there's a better than average chance that they suck.

Moreover, why is the Cardinals QB issue so quickly dismissed while the Chiefs one is not? Why is it easy for the Cards to just go get Alex Smith or Joe Flacco and not easy for KC? We have plenty of cap space and the Bidwells are hardly Dan Snyder. If that's the route that Reid wants to go, it will be no easier for AZ to turn that trick than it would be for KC.

C'mon - you're understating the AZ holes and overstating the KC ones. These are two extremely similar situations and the Chiefs are playing in a weaker division. I don't see any reason to believe one has a clearer shot to the playoffs than the other apart from the 'inflection' you use when discussing respective weaknesses.

TEX 01-02-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9269384)
We can root all we want to. Pioli is with Clark doing interviews, not looking for a job. If Clark was going to fire him Pioli wouldn't be along for the ride. Not only will Pioli be the GM next year he is getting his say on who the head coach is. We will all have to wait another year to "start over"..... again.

Well I agree that Pioli will be the GM next year. I have held that opinion throughtout this season and especially now thathe's still there. However, I don't feel he's getting much of a say, if any, as to who the next HC will be. In any case - having Pioli around in any capacity is a bad idea.

penguinz 01-02-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9269417)
He's there to carry Clarks bags and open his door. Maybe toss his salad right before bed.

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BigCatDaddy 01-02-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269377)
Not by fans. That's for sure.

Fans thought it might be Clausen, but we saw how scouts viewed him.

Clausen was in the Bradford draft.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9269408)
I 1000% disagree that the Cardinals can fix their atrocious line in one offseason as well as find a QB in one offseason. They are a mess, much like we are. And I think finding 3-4 des really isn't that difficult of a proposition.

The Cardinals also have to compete with the 49ers and Seattle, 2 teams that will constantly be better than they are for the next 3-4 years without question.

Dude, they could sign Alex Smith to compete with Kolb, take Joeckel at 8 or 9, then grab the best running back in the 2nd round, a guard in the third, a TE in the 4th, another guard in the 5th, another RB in the 6th and sign a starter here or there for their offensive line.

That is MUCH easier than finding a ****ing true Nose Tackle, starters and depth at the 5 tech, a starting safety opposite Berry, a starting ILB next to DJ (who IS aging, BTW), possibly a #1 receiver and definitely a #2 receiver, a reliable TE, etc. AND a franchise QB.

I've watched Arizona on many occasions and I'm actually shocked they fired Whiz. He's put competitive teams on the field with freaking five different QB's. Rod Graves failed Arizona IMO, not Whiz.

And they're closer than you'd think.

TEX 01-02-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9269400)
:facepalm:

I've been telling you Dave, don't shrug off the fact that Pioli is still around as being meaningless. You just might get that link you asked me to provide for you last week before the season ended...

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9269422)
Clausen was in the Bradford draft.

Of course he was. Sorry about that. Selected by the same ****ing team, no less. Dropped the ball completely on that.

bevischief 01-02-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269414)
You can bash Fescoe's tweet all you want, but if I'm Clark, and I'm looking to get rid of Pioli as cheaply as possible and I know that Scott's buddy Dimitroff could possibly have an opening - and I'm going to ATL to interview HC candidates - you're goddamn right I put him on the plane.

No one even knows if Pioli was in the interview, they just assume it.

He could just have easily been discussing a position with Dimitroff while Clark and the posse were doing interviews.

But sure, let's all jump off the deep end.

Too late already happened...

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269414)
You can bash Fescoe's tweet all you want, but if I'm Clark, and I'm looking to get rid of Pioli as cheaply as possible and I know that Scott's buddy Dimitroff could possibly have an opening - and I'm going to ATL to interview HC candidates - you're goddamn right I put him on the plane.

No one even knows if Pioli was in the interview, they just assume it.

He could just have easily been discussing a position with Dimitroff while Clark and the posse were doing interviews.

But sure, let's all jump off the deep end
.

Who is doing this? This is a message board, and we're discussing news. This is exactly what someone tried to pull on htimsqquuae earlier today, and he had to explain that he wasn't worked up at all. Just "talking."

BigCatDaddy 01-02-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269430)
Of course he was. Sorry about that. Selected by the same ****ing team, no less. Dropped the ball completely on that.

You're still right though. I remember telling Dane that Kaepernick would go before Cam right before he told me to go **** my mother.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269427)
Dude, they could sign Alex Smith to compete with Kolb, take Joeckel at 8 or 9, then grab the best running back in the 2nd round, a guard in the third, a TE in the 4th, another guard in the 5th, another RB in the 6th and sign a starter here or there for their offensive line.

That is MUCH easier than finding a ****ing true Nose Tackle, starters and depth at the 5 tech, a starting safety opposite Berry, a starting ILB next to DJ (who IS aging, BTW), possibly a #1 receiver and definitely a #2 receiver, a reliable TE, etc. AND a franchise QB.

I've watched Arizona on many occasions and I'm actually shocked they fired Whiz. He's put competitive teams on the field with freaking five different QB's. Rod Graves failed Arizona IMO, not Whiz.

And they're closer than you'd think.

Sounds like you need to head to AZ for an interview. :D

TimeForWasp 01-02-2013 04:01 PM

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Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269414)
You can bash Fescoe's tweet all you want, but if I'm Clark, and I'm looking to get rid of Pioli as cheaply as possible and I know that Scott's buddy Dimitroff could possibly have an opening - and I'm going to ATL to interview HC candidates - you're goddamn right I put him on the plane.

No one even knows if Pioli was in the interview, they just assume it.

He could just have easily been discussing a position with Dimitroff while Clark and the posse were doing interviews.

But sure, let's all jump off the deep end.

Scott lining up a job with his Canadian buddy ain't gonna help Clark with the money he's gonna owe.


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