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-King- 04-09-2018 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510466)
The team that signs him is going to regret it because he’s gonna try to convince teammates to be distracted from the reason they are being paid huge sums of cash to play a sport at the highest level.

I’m not sure I’d sign him at any cost.

Marvin Lewis is obviously gonna try to talk some sense into the kid and if he can convince him to keep any protests away from the football team and not to link the team in the media to protests, he will probably sign him. The Bengals don’t have a problem bringing in dumbasses...

He's going to try to convince his teammates to be distractions? Lolwut?
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-King- 04-09-2018 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510482)
he doesn’t think he needs to take any discounts.



Click that link.

All he says is that he won’t protest “during the anthem” but that he will remain “an active protester”

What's wrong with that? So players cant protest or be for/against social and political issues on the field or off? Wow.
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BryanBusby 04-09-2018 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510488)
Is that not what everyone has been asking of them/him?

Yeah, but reasons

BossChief 04-09-2018 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510487)
That doesn't mean that he's going to protest on the field. Which is all anyone cares about. I don't see anything wrong with what he's stating.

His pay SHOULD be based on his skillset.

how much is his skill set worth?

Is part of his “skill set” the distraction he will bring?

If so, how much does that take from his value?

BigCatDaddy 04-09-2018 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13510502)
What's wrong with that? So players cant protest or be for/against social and political issues on the field or off? Wow.
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It isn't that black and white

UChieffyBugger 04-10-2018 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510454)
sounds like he is still going to protest and still wants top dollar...

"The notion that I can be a great signing for your team for cheap, not because of my skill set but because I've protested systemic oppression, is ludicrous," he tweeted. "If you think is, then your mindset is part of the problem too."

He said that several weeks ago. He's since said he won't be protesting on the field anymore and will do other things to push the movement forward.

UChieffyBugger 04-10-2018 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510466)
The team that signs him is going to regret it because he’s gonna try to convince teammates to be distracted from the reason they are being paid huge sums of cash to play a sport at the highest level.

I’m not sure I’d sign him at any cost.

Marvin Lewis is obviously gonna try to talk some sense into the kid and if he can convince him to keep any protests away from the football team and not to link the team in the media to protests, he will probably sign him. The Bengals don’t have a problem bringing in dumbasses...

Why are you calling him a "dumbass" and trying to smear the man with fake news? Because he protested against police brutality? SMH :rolleyes:

BossChief 04-10-2018 02:05 AM

Did you people even read the article at all?

JFC

None of the Bengals players have knelt during the national anthem, but they did link arms as a team in a show of unity during the anthem prior to their game against the Packers on Sept. 24. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis has said he is proud of how his team handled things last year, but has also said he doesn't want anything to get in the way of football.

"Our guys have been excellent in this situation," Lewis told reporters at the owners' meetings. in March "Because we are about playing football. They have other agendas, this is not the place to be. On Sunday for us and throughout the week in the building, it's about football. That's how I've approached it."


Teams don’t want to run the risk of the huge distraction this brings their team.

BossChief 04-10-2018 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13510535)
He said that several weeks ago. He's since said he won't be protesting on the field anymore and will do other things to push the movement forward.

He said he wouldn’t be protesting “during the anthem”.

He also said he would find other ways....

He has chosen to use his platform as an nfl player for protests in the past and he doesn’t seem to understand a couple things when he does that...

1) the nfl is a BUSINESS. Businesses have sponsers and business relationships that provide the sport its income. When your actions detract from that, the business will replace you.

2) When you earn the privilege of being an NFL player, you are an EMPLOYEE of the NFL team that writes your paychecks. I’m in a leadership role with a massive company and if I used that platform to protest something that could hurt my companies interests, I’m sure I wouldn’t be someone they would rush to give increased pay to.

BossChief 04-10-2018 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13510502)
What's wrong with that? So players cant protest or be for/against social and political issues on the field or off? Wow.
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Sure they can. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and support to whatever topic they like.

But they need to understand that there are consequences to every action both good and bad...if they hurt the interests of their employer, would that employer rush to increase their pay or even to keep them employed?

Some of you simply don’t understand that the NFL is a multi billion dollar business (maybe trillion with everything factored in) and that they will always protect their interests.

UChieffyBugger 04-10-2018 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510540)
He said he wouldn’t be protesting “during the anthem”.

He also said he would find other ways....

He has chosen to use his platform as an nfl player for protests in the past and he doesn’t seem to understand a couple things when he does that...

1) the nfl is a BUSINESS. Businesses have sponsers and business relationships that provide the sport its income. When your actions detract from that, the business will replace you.

2) When you earn the privilege of being an NFL player, you are an EMPLOYEE of the NFL team that writes your paychecks. I’m in a leadership role with a massive company and if I used that platform to protest something that could hurt my companies interests, I’m sure I wouldn’t be someone they would rush to give increased pay to.

1. IS PROTESTING DURING THE ANTHEM AGAINST NFL RULES? NO

2. HOW HAS IT "HURT THE BUSINESS"? NFL STILL GETTING BIG RATINGS AND BIG SPONSORSHIP DEALS!!..SO PLEASE STOP WITH THAT BS.

3. FINDING "OTHER WAYS" MOST LIKELY MEANS DOING STUFF THAT MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THE COMMUNITIES HE CARES ABOUT. SO QUIT TRYING TO PUT WORDS INTO THE MANS MOUTH.

Red Dawg 04-10-2018 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13510547)
1. IS PROTESTING DURING THE ANTHEM AGAINST NFL RULES? NO

2. HOW HAS IT "HURT THE BUSINESS"? NFL STILL GETTING BIG RATINGS AND BIG SPONSORSHIP DEALS!!..SO PLEASE STOP WITH THAT BS.

3. FINDING "OTHER WAYS" MOST LIKELY MEANS DOING STUFF THAT MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THE COMMUNITIES HE CARES ABOUT. SO QUIT TRYING TO PUT WORDS INTO THE MANS MOUTH.

Do what you are getting paid to do. NFL players are wearing the uniform of their team to play football and getting paid. They are not getting paid to take political sides and make a spectacle of themselves for a cause. They are not civil rights leaders. You wanna fight the man? Do it on your own time.

KChiefs1 04-10-2018 10:17 AM

Reid visiting Cincinnati.

O.city 04-10-2018 10:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> are indeed trying to land a vet safety. Have even reversed course on Eric Reid and are interested in him if they can get him for cheap. Been told there’s a chance but not a great one there.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/983748103726665728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Not sure if anyone cares, but this was the dude that had the Watkins thing early

O.city 04-10-2018 11:00 AM

I'd be pretty damn happy with the offseason if they could snag Reid.

Snatch up a good corner with the first pick of the draft they have and a few DL, and the D is in damn good shape going forward.

Buckweath 04-10-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13510907)
I'd be pretty damn happy with the offseason if they could snag Reid.

Snatch up a good corner with the first pick of the draft they have and a few DL, and the D is in damn good shape going forward.

My thoughts as well. If the Chiefs can get quality play from two of three draft picks being CB, DL and safety, it is not out of question that the defense could be a top 10 unit. I personnally am happy with Houston, Ford and Kpassagnon as the edge rushers for this year.

If you snag a FA safety, then you have more latitude to be agressive and pick a CB and DL early.

ToxSocks 04-10-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13510565)
You wanna fight the man? Do it on your own time.

Which is exactly what Reid has said he will do, and leave it all off the field, not on.

So i ask again, wtf is the problem now?

ToxSocks 04-10-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510541)
Sure they can. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and support to whatever topic they like.

But they need to understand that there are consequences to every action both good and bad...if they hurt the interests of their employer, would that employer rush to increase their pay or even to keep them employed?

Some of you simply don’t understand that the NFL is a multi billion dollar business (maybe trillion with everything factored in) and that they will always protect their interests.

So your stance is that you can't be a civil rights activist in your free time...off the field.

wow.

patteeu 04-10-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510937)
So your stance is that you can't be a civil rights activist in your free time...off the field.

wow.

It kind of depends on how he goes about it. There are lots of highly paid, highly visible jobs where the way you live "off the field" factors into whether or not you keep your job.

tmax63 04-10-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510937)
So your stance is that you can't be a civil rights activist in your free time...off the field.

wow.

Don't think he's saying that at all. I think he's saying that actions have consequences and if a player's actions create difficulty/problems on or off the field then they will be replaced. Good football players get replaced every day because they can't stay healthy or simply because the next guy's has a better attitude or whatever. It doesn't matter what or when it happens, if you do something that hurts the company you work for unless your business card says owner you can/will be replaced with someone that improves the company. Just cold hard bizness.

BossChief 04-10-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13510547)
1. IS PROTESTING DURING THE ANTHEM AGAINST NFL RULES? NO

2. HOW HAS IT "HURT THE BUSINESS"? NFL STILL GETTING BIG RATINGS AND BIG SPONSORSHIP DEALS!!..SO PLEASE STOP WITH THAT BS.

3. FINDING "OTHER WAYS" MOST LIKELY MEANS DOING STUFF THAT MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THE COMMUNITIES HE CARES ABOUT. SO QUIT TRYING TO PUT WORDS INTO THE MANS MOUTH.

You are an ignorant fool.

KChiefs1 04-10-2018 12:10 PM

2018 Free Agents
 
https://twitter.com/redmamba707/stat...926064128?s=21

JakeF 04-10-2018 12:26 PM

I'm not aware of any issues with Reid other than kneeling and money. Considering we just gave a big risk like Watkins 9 million dollars I don't see that as a problem unless the Chiefs just don't want to pay 2 safeties big money.

I still think it's the kneeling issue. All the Chiefs fans who scream,ranted and threatened to boycott because of kneeling players should be proud. No Eric Reid for you.

BossChief 04-10-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510937)
So your stance is that you can't be a civil rights activist in your free time...off the field.

wow.

I haven’t said that. I wouldn’t have any problems if their protests (which are needed because racism should die) are away from the sport.

Can you provide me a link to where he said he would protest in his own time and away from the field.

Because I think you are making that part up.

All he has said is that he won’t protest “during the anthem”...but quickly pointed out that he would stay an active protester.

That could mean a number of things...many of which would be a distraction from the team putting all of their energy and focus into winning that weeks game.

UChieffyBugger 04-10-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510968)
You are an ignorant fool.

"Ignorant"? Says the clown who's trying to defame Reid for protesting against police brutality? ROFL

UChieffyBugger 04-10-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13510974)

If I'm correct wasn't he spot on about the Watkin's deal a day before It leaked? I hope he's right again.

BossChief 04-10-2018 12:34 PM

Any player that puts himself and his interests above the team usually finds himself without a team.

BossChief 04-10-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13510996)
"Ignorant"? Says the clown who's trying to defame Reid for protesting against police brutality? ROFL

That whole entire post was ignorant.

This post of yours is ignorant, as well.

Congrats!

BigCatDaddy 04-10-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13510937)
So your stance is that you can't be a civil rights activist in your free time...off the field.

wow.

Depends. Does he make an ass out if himself like Kaep and Bennett or does he do it with clsss and dignity?

Halfcan 04-10-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13510974)

Has to be better than what we have back there. #GitterdoneVeech

Red Dawg 04-10-2018 01:33 PM

I can't believe that anyone on here actually thinks that billion dollar companies would keep employees around that protest during work ours and in their work environment.

No company would and nor should they. Players are stupid to think otherwise. Kap made his bed and now he can lie in it.

SuperChief 04-10-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 13510946)
Don't think he's saying that at all. I think he's saying that actions have consequences and if a player's actions create difficulty/problems on or off the field then they will be replaced. Good football players get replaced every day because they can't stay healthy or simply because the next guy's has a better attitude or whatever. It doesn't matter what or when it happens, if you do something that hurts the company you work for unless your business card says owner you can/will be replaced with someone that improves the company. Just cold hard bizness.

The Raiders just did this with King, and we're all laughing at them because of how stupid it is. Make sense now?

Pitt Gorilla 04-10-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13510991)
I'm not aware of any issues with Reid other than kneeling and money. Considering we just gave a big risk like Watkins 9 million dollars I don't see that as a problem unless the Chiefs just don't want to pay 2 safeties big money.

I still think it's the kneeling issue. All the Chiefs fans who scream,ranted and threatened to boycott because of kneeling players should be proud. No Eric Reid for you.

I don't think Chief Fan is that petty or short-sighted. The pieces are in place to win. Reid helps us win. If the money is right, sign him.

ToxSocks 04-10-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13511085)
I can't believe that anyone on here actually thinks that billion dollar companies would keep employees around that protest during work ours and in their work environment.

.

Literally no one has said that. Not even Reid. This argument is nothing more than a reading comprehension failure.

BossChief 04-10-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13510995)
I haven’t said that. I wouldn’t have any problems if their protests (which are needed because racism should die) are away from the sport.

Can you provide me a link to where he said he would protest in his own time and away from the field.

Because I think you are making that part up.

All he has said is that he won’t protest “during the anthem”...but quickly pointed out that he would stay an active protester.

That could mean a number of things...many of which would be a distraction from the team putting all of their energy and focus into winning that weeks game.

.

Sassy Squatch 04-10-2018 07:25 PM

So Reid wants a long term deal but he'd be "willing" to sign a 1 year, 5.5 million deal with the 49ers. LMAO

Couch-Potato 04-10-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13510901)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> are indeed trying to land a vet safety. Have even reversed course on Eric Reid and are interested in him if they can get him for cheap. Been told there’s a chance but not a great one there.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/983748103726665728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Not sure if anyone cares, but this was the dude that had the Watkins thing early

I like it!

Titty Meat 04-10-2018 08:44 PM

That would be a home run signing

O.city 04-10-2018 08:46 PM

Let’s not beat out ducks too hard yet

NJChiefsFan 04-10-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13511597)
Let’s not beat out ducks too hard yet

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/zbe.gif

BossChief 04-10-2018 09:28 PM

If he’s not going to be a distraction, the team would be silly to not to sign Reid to a 1 year deal for 5-6m...make Sorensen a June 1 cut and save 4.3 on the cap and upgrade a ton with that move.

If he’s planning on using the NFL to further his protesting agenda, he can go elsewhere.

After the one year we can sign him long term or collect a comp pick for letting him sign elsewhere.

Halfcan 04-10-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13511662)
If he’s not going to be a distraction, the team would be silly to not to sign Reid to a 1 year deal for 5-6m...make Sorensen a June 1 cut and save 4.3 on the cap and upgrade a ton with that move.

If he’s planning on using the NFL to further his protesting agenda, he can go elsewhere.

After the one year we can sign him long term or collect a comp pick for letting him sign elsewhere.

Great post. Personally, I think the whole anthem protest has run its course. A majority hated it and thought it was disrespectful. It solved nothing but creating controversy and divided teams. There are so many other outlets, charities, ect that players can use to make a bigger impact than starting up the anthem thing again.

Having another quality safety would go a long way to shoring up this defense.

Chief Northman 04-10-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13511662)
If he’s not going to be a distraction, the team would be silly to not to sign Reid to a 1 year deal for 5-6m...make Sorensen a June 1 cut and save 4.3 on the cap and upgrade a ton with that move.

If he’s planning on using the NFL to further his protesting agenda, he can go elsewhere.

After the one year we can sign him long term or collect a comp pick for letting him sign elsewhere.

I’d be ok with this, but in no way can you guarantee he won’t be a distraction of sorts. I’m all for him supporting social justice and promoting/advocating for humanitarian causes. What bugs me about Reid is that he is in denial that his actions and protests have offended some. Reading through some of his social media feeds, he seems to be drawing lines in the sand regarding his convictions along with how he values himself contractually, and is venting regarding the fact he has not secured a multi-year deal to his liking. Dude needs to recognize he is polarizing, and by continuing to gripe about a situation he created by himself through his actions that there may be concerns and consequences associated with teams employing his services.

On the field he’d be an upgrade, but I just don’t see KC as a fit for Reid given the passion he has with his social/political convictions. KC is not big enough for him, and he would be scrutinized immensely.

BryanBusby 04-11-2018 04:10 AM

I'd think what fans like to perceive as a distraction and what the players are actually distracted by are two totally different things.

-King- 04-11-2018 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13511798)
I'd think what fans like to perceive as a distraction and what the players are actually distracted by are two totally different things.

This. Illustrated by this
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tmax63 04-11-2018 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 13511151)
The Raiders just did this with King, and we're all laughing at them because of how stupid it is. Make sense now?

I don't think a few fans on a Chiefs BB laughing at them is going to influence what the front office thinks or does. What makes sense to a few fans might not make sense to a multimillion dollar team in a multibillion dollar business. I don't buy that us general fans know as much about running a football team as the GMs and owners do. It takes a certain skillset and experience to get there that I don't have and doubt that anyone else here has or else they'd be doing it.

stumppy 04-11-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13511798)
I'd think what fans like to perceive as a distraction and what the players are actually distracted by are two totally different things.

BINGO

Sassy Squatch 04-11-2018 07:47 AM

Seems like Reid doesn't actually intend to stop kneeling. When he was put on the spot by Mike Brown he wouldn't commit to not kneeling after Brown told him he planned to prohibit it. Couple that with what he's looking for in terms of $ and he's not coming here, unless he's desperate.

NJChiefsFan 04-11-2018 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 13511826)
I don't think a few fans on a Chiefs BB laughing at them is going to influence what the front office thinks or does. What makes sense to a few fans might not make sense to a multimillion dollar team in a multibillion dollar business. I don't buy that us general fans know as much about running a football team as the GMs and owners do. It takes a certain skillset and experience to get there that I don't have and doubt that anyone else here has or else they'd be doing it.

I don't agree with the owners. That's about money, not NFL knowledge. Now the GMs, sure. There is plenty they know that I don't even know that I don't know, if you get my drift. That being said, there are plenty of GM's that let their ego, inability to adapt to the changing league, bias towards players, ect make decisions that even fans knew were terrible ideas from the start.

There also are times where fans do influence decisions for better or worse. In part we saw it during the Pioli era.

Stryker 04-11-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13511722)
I’d be ok with this, but in no way can you guarantee he won’t be a distraction of sorts. I’m all for him supporting social justice and promoting/advocating for humanitarian causes. What bugs me about Reid is that he is in denial that his actions and protests have offended some. Reading through some of his social media feeds, he seems to be drawing lines in the sand regarding his convictions along with how he values himself contractually, and is venting regarding the fact he has not secured a multi-year deal to his liking. Dude needs to recognize he is polarizing, and by continuing to gripe about a situation he created by himself through his actions that there may be concerns and consequences associated with teams employing his services.

On the field he’d be an upgrade, but I just don’t see KC as a fit for Reid given the passion he has with his social/political convictions. KC is not big enough for him, and he would be scrutinized immensely.

I totally agree. It is a shame because he would be an incredible upgrade and he is 26 yrs old. :shake:

The Franchise 04-11-2018 08:51 AM

Colts signed CB Kenneth Acker, formerly of the Chiefs.

Acker played 209 nondescript snaps for Kansas City last season and visited the Seahawks along with the Colts this spring. In Indy, the 6'/195 former sixth-rounder will provide depth should he make the final 53-man roster.

raybec 4 04-11-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13511962)
Colts signed CB Kenneth Acker, formerly of the Chiefs.

Acker played 209 nondescript snaps for Kansas City last season and visited the Seahawks along with the Colts this spring. In Indy, the 6'/195 former sixth-rounder will provide depth should he make the final 53-man roster.

All is lost, pack up the season.

O.city 04-11-2018 10:21 AM

Really hope they can hit on some CB's in the draft. Need some good young players out there.

Chargem 04-11-2018 11:50 AM

Not that I really wanted to weigh in on this Reid thing, but from a business perspective, I would have thought the best things the Chiefs could do profit wise would be to win a superbowl. I doubt the Chiefs make it to the SB and people go "nah not watching it this year, Reid". Just sign the best players you can who fill your needs for the cap hit you can afford, almost everything else is irrelevant.

BossChief 04-11-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13512074)
Really hope they can hit on some CB's in the draft. Need some good young players out there.

I think they draft 3cbs. 2 high and one with a late rounder.

Buckweath 04-11-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13512398)
I think they draft 3cbs. 2 high and one with a late rounder.

I am thinking they trade up for a CB and then draft another one in the later rounds.

You can't draft 3 CBs when you also need a Dlineman, a guard and a safety if no free agent and when you could also use help at TE, WR, ILB and OLB.

Red Dawg 04-11-2018 02:41 PM

Team had too many needs to swing big money on a WR. This defense looks like shit right now.

O.city 04-11-2018 02:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cornelius Lucas visits Chiefs <a href="https://t.co/uPmYiZKkOd">https://t.co/uPmYiZKkOd</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/984173234949099521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Chargem 04-11-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13512486)
Team had too many needs to swing big money on a WR. This defense looks like shit right now.

I dunno, 'like shit' is harsh:

The line is the same unit -Logan +X.Williams, who had a better 2017 per PFF.

The linebackers are the same unit -DJ -KPL +Hitchens (I am not counting Tamba as he didn't contribute in 2017). DJ played okay but was starting to look his age. KPL is a JAG, Hitchens graded better than DJ overall.

CB group is -Peters -Acker -Mitchell +Fuller +Amerson. This is the only group really taking a downgrade from the prior year as it stands, but I don't really think it's a huge step back. Acker, Mitchell and Amerson all JAGS. A quality draft pick would make me feel like this group is roughly the same as last year, rather than worse.

Safety: -Parker +Golden +Berry. hard to see this as anything but a big improvement unless Berry is a shadow of his former self?

There's holes and question marks, but I wouldn't say the defense is looking dire pre-draft.

NJChiefsFan 04-12-2018 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13512504)

CB group is -Peters -Acker -Mitchell +Fuller +Amerson. This is the only group really taking a downgrade from the prior year as it stands, but I don't really think it's a huge step back. Acker, Mitchell and Amerson all JAGS. A quality draft pick would make me feel like this group is roughly the same as last year, rather than worse.

Safety: -Parker +Golden +Berry. hard to see this as anything but a big improvement unless Berry is a shadow of his former self?
.

The problem is the position that needed the most help is the one you said is taking a downgrade.

For this defense to be good enough in 2018, we really need to hit an impact player when we take a CB. Potentially need that at S as well but I don't see this defense being good enough if we don't find at least 1 more person to help this secondary next year. Even as good as our offense can potentially be, we need more help in that secondary.

BryanBusby 04-12-2018 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13511873)
Seems like Reid doesn't actually intend to stop kneeling. When he was put on the spot by Mike Brown he wouldn't commit to not kneeling after Brown told him he planned to prohibit it. Couple that with what he's looking for in terms of $ and he's not coming here, unless he's desperate.

After stuff like Pacman Jones shooting somebody and paralyzing a strip club bouncer after slamming a strippers head to get his money back, along with things like Vontaze aiming to cripple other players.

That's where Mike Brown is going to draw the line? Lol

Buckweath 04-12-2018 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13512504)
I dunno, 'like shit' is harsh:

The line is the same unit -Logan +X.Williams, who had a better 2017 per PFF.

The linebackers are the same unit -DJ -KPL +Hitchens (I am not counting Tamba as he didn't contribute in 2017). DJ played okay but was starting to look his age. KPL is a JAG, Hitchens graded better than DJ overall.

CB group is -Peters -Acker -Mitchell +Fuller +Amerson. This is the only group really taking a downgrade from the prior year as it stands, but I don't really think it's a huge step back. Acker, Mitchell and Amerson all JAGS. A quality draft pick would make me feel like this group is roughly the same as last year, rather than worse.

Safety: -Parker +Golden +Berry. hard to see this as anything but a big improvement unless Berry is a shadow of his former self?

There's holes and question marks, but I wouldn't say the defense is looking dire pre-draft.

Berry should not be counted as an addition as it would be like considering that there will be no injuries this year.

I will say I feel good about this defense. Veach needs to draft a top CB and a top DL with a safety and if two of these three perform decently, I do think the Chiefs defense can be a top 10 unit.

Amerson, Ford, Kpassagnon, Williams are all kinda unknown but they all look like they can potentially give this team solid play. Not all of them will but I feel confident at least two of them will.

Chargem 04-12-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13513274)
Berry should not be counted as an addition as it would be like considering that there will be no injuries this year.

I will say I feel good about this defense. Veach needs to draft a top CB and a top DL with a safety and if two of these three perform decently, I do think the Chiefs defense can be a top 10 unit.

Amerson, Ford, Kpassagnon, Williams are all kinda unknown but they all look like they can potentially give this team solid play. Not all of them will but I feel confident at least two of them will.

I sort of take your point about Berry, I wouldn't say +Ford for this year just because he got injured last year but Berry got injured half way through game 1, so in terms of the personnel for the defense it is pretty much +Berry compared to 2017. I guess you are comparing how you felt about the opening day line up 2017 vs 2018 where as I am thinking about the players who played in 2017 vs the roster in 2018.

Obviously you are going to have some people get injured in 2018, but then you don't know who will take a big step forward in 2018 either.

Couch-Potato 04-12-2018 05:10 PM

Anyone out there still that's gettable and that would make a big splash?

Couch-Potato 04-12-2018 05:12 PM

Some quality names still on this list I found: http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2018-nfl-free-agents-list/

Easy 6 04-12-2018 05:23 PM

A work buddy broke the news to me that Kaep had a workout scheduled with Seattle, but it fell through when he said the kneeling would continue

Figured if anyone would take him, it would be them... one of the most liberal cities in the nation

Not only that, but his style would seem to be a good fit to back up Wilson

Halfcan 04-12-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13514207)
Some quality names still on this list I found: http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2018-nfl-free-agents-list/

It would be nice to get one of those top safeties and another CB so we would have more options in the draft.

staylor26 04-12-2018 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13514216)
A work buddy broke the news to me that Kaep had a workout scheduled with Seattle, but it fell through when he said the kneeling would continue

Figured if anyone would take him, it would be them... one of the most liberal cities in the nation

Not only that, but his style would seem to be a good fit to back up Wilson

There are conflicting reports there. Schefter vs. Rapoport.

I believe it though.

Halfcan 04-12-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13513274)
Berry should not be counted as an addition as it would be like considering that there will be no injuries this year.

I will say I feel good about this defense. Veach needs to draft a top CB and a top DL with a safety and if two of these three perform decently, I do think the Chiefs defense can be a top 10 unit.

Amerson, Ford, Kpassagnon, Williams are all kinda unknown but they all look like they can potentially give this team solid play. Not all of them will but I feel confident at least two of them will.

:hmmm: I think we know what we have in Ford and it ain't much. He had a few games that he collected sacks at a nice pace, but has never been much against the run- plus he is hurt all the time with a gimpy back.

patteeu 04-12-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13514216)
A work buddy broke the news to me that Kaep had a workout scheduled with Seattle, but it fell through when he said the kneeling would continue

Figured if anyone would take him, it would be them... one of the most liberal cities in the nation

Not only that, but his style would seem to be a good fit to back up Wilson

Maybe they had their fill last year with Michael Bennett.

Easy 6 04-12-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13514226)
There are conflicting reports there. Schefter vs. Rapoport.

I believe it though.

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13514233)
Maybe they had their fill last year with Michael Bennett.

I believe it as well, even the most liberal owners are probably tired of the drama and heat it brings down

And yeah pat, if anyone could sour a team on that kind of activism ... it'd be lying ass Michael Bennett

Couch-Potato 04-12-2018 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13514222)
It would be nice to get one of those top safeties and another CB so we would have more options in the draft.

Would be great to get at least one, we're looking thin at DB IMO. Maybe Vaccaro + a 2nd round CB??? Moving Fuller to the outside might not work out as well as when he played slot in a familiar system, by all accounts Amerson was mediocre in Oakland, not sure what we have planned there...?

Couch-Potato 04-13-2018 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13514216)
A work buddy broke the news to me that Kaep had a workout scheduled with Seattle, but it fell through when he said the kneeling would continue

Figured if anyone would take him, it would be them... one of the most liberal cities in the nation

Not only that, but his style would seem to be a good fit to back up Wilson

Canceled apparently: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...neeling-anthem

Rausch 04-13-2018 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13514237)
I believe it as well, even the most liberal owners are probably tired of the drama and heat it brings down

And yeah pat, if anyone could sour a team on that kind of activism ... it'd be lying ass Michael Bennett

It also doesn't help that Kaep's GF is a member of a terrorist org...

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-13-2018 10:14 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys expected to release WR Dev Bryant today, barring an unexpected last-minute change of heart, per <a href="https://twitter.com/toddarcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@toddarcher</a> and me. But the plan going into meeting that is now underway was to part ways with Bryant.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/984825866747285506?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 04-13-2018 01:34 PM

SIGN HIM NOW, CARL SCOTT JOHN BRETT!

The Franchise 04-15-2018 11:19 AM

Yep....totally should have traded for this guy. :rolleyes:

According to Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Eagles are expected to release CB Daryl Worley.
Worley was tasered and later arrested after becoming "combative" with Philadelphia police early Sunday morning. Authorities were called to the scene after the cornerback was found passed out inside a vehicle blocking the highway. This isn't Worley's first run-in with the law following an arrest for misdemeanor assault in college. Per Bowen, it is "likely, though not certain" that Worley will be cut as a result of Sunday's incident and that his fate is being discussed among "various parties." The Eagles also released a statement: "We are in the process of gathering more information about Daryl Worley's arrest this morning." The 23-year-old was acquired from Carolina in a trade last month.

staylor26 04-15-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13517814)
Yep....totally should have traded for this guy. :rolleyes:

According to Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Eagles are expected to release CB Daryl Worley.
Worley was tasered and later arrested after becoming "combative" with Philadelphia police early Sunday morning. Authorities were called to the scene after the cornerback was found passed out inside a vehicle blocking the highway. This isn't Worley's first run-in with the law following an arrest for misdemeanor assault in college. Per Bowen, it is "likely, though not certain" that Worley will be cut as a result of Sunday's incident and that his fate is being discussed among "various parties." The Eagles also released a statement: "We are in the process of gathering more information about Daryl Worley's arrest this morning." The 23-year-old was acquired from Carolina in a trade last month.

LMAO

To be fair, that was just RunKC saying that though.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-15-2018 12:29 PM

Former #AZCardinals RB Kerwynn Williams is signing a 1-year deal with the #Chiefs, source said. He had multiple options, but liked the fresh start KC represented.

KChiefs1 04-15-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13514718)
Would be great to get at least one, we're looking thin at DB IMO. Maybe Vaccaro + a 2nd round CB??? Moving Fuller to the outside might not work out as well as when he played slot in a familiar system, by all accounts Amerson was mediocre in Oakland, not sure what we have planned there...?



I think that is Veach’s strategy.

He will see how the draft falls, if a safety he likes falls to them then he will draft him & won’t sign a safety. If one doesn’t fall to him, then he will sign a FA safety. That’s the reason for the delay.


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