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I would say the Royals are pretty lucky to be 6.5 back given how badly moose/hoz/butler have sucked, among others. |
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To put it another way: had we signed Melky types we'd be better offensively but worse defensively and we'd still probably wash out the same run differential. |
I find it incredibly funny and ironic an Orioles fan posts a link about a baseball team getting lucky.
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I agree that Gordon and especially Butler have been disappointing and should be carrying the team. Beating a dead horse, but yes, Mr Wal Mart is the one of the worst owners in Pro Sports and sets no example or precedent for winning. It all starts at the top.
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Butler has always been a streaky hitter. I'm sure he'll get hot soon and we will all forget that he started out slow. |
Saw a rumor that there was a Royals scout at a Padres game recently. There was a SD article that mentioned it briefly? Someone on twitter mentioned maybe their looking at Gryorko or Blanks.
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http://www.royalsreview.com/2013/6/2...res-for-hitter it listed the original source here http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...-volquez-bass/ |
Myers another HR
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with how pathetic our lineup is...
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Bottom line: Dayton Moore is dumb as ****. |
The Royals and Dayton Moore need Myers to fail in order for the trade to look even decent.
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Too bad he can't hit a slider.
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If he keeps admiring those homers like that he is gonna get his ass pegged.
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is a current Royal even capable of hitting a ball that far/hard?
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Damn you, penbook!
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If Myers ends up hitting more HRs this year than anyone on the Royals roster, DM must be publicly executed.
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The Myers trade is done. It just means we gotta go all in, now. Meaning we must acquire a slugger NOW.
Without more home run pop in this lineup, we will not compete. We are again on the edge of relevance and must make a push NOW. Call Miami now. Blow them away. Ventura, Calixte, Zimmer, Bonifacio, Adam, even Cain. Hell, throw in Joel Goldmann, the rights to Frank White, and Bob Dutton. Blow them the hell away and bring Stanton here NOW. |
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Seriously. Wtf is your problem? |
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Myers just scratched his ass.
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This makes me want to cry |
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If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.
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Oh, and no, not Royal can hit a ball that far. Not even a golf ball... |
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I'm not a Dayton fan but I feel a bit for him that those 4 hitters killed his plan. Had they done squat we'd be over .500 and legitimately in the wild card race. They let him down. |
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I def am stacked at OF incase of injury |
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Everyone, save DM, knew that Frenchy was a negative WAR player. If Myers lived up to potential, his value + the absence of Frenchy was = to acquiring Shields + Davis. The trade was a ****ing joke, made by a GM who is an embarrassment. |
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It turns out that we have but French was going to get the opportunity to bounce back and see if he could hit like 2011. If you argue that the pitchers we got would've been out-done by having Myers play all year then you'd have to prove that. I highly doubt it's true. |
Who can we trade for to get more power?
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But that's a common thread. We're basically running a sports car in 1st gear. |
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But we essentially bet significantly on mediocrity, which is beyond infuriating. Myers represented our best long-term chance at success. Shields was, at best, win now. And the latter isn't going to happen. Thus, we're relegated to chasing a big mistake by trading more treasure to try to acquire a bat. |
People seem to forget we did get a guy with 111 innings of sub-3 era so far. He's on pace to have one of the best seasons in the past 15 years for this franchise.
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Meh, whatever, it's time to move on from this trade.
With Myers, we likely would have been cemented in the toilet this year. Eric Hosmer absolutely raked during his rookie season, and how much did that do for our overall record? We weren't signing a big time SP free agent, trading was our only option. I wasn't a fan of the trade when it happened, and it's quite possible that the trade will blow up in our faces, but let's quit pretending that we would be in a better position with Myers. We wouldn't be, and it's quite possible Myers will still pull a Hosmer/Moose like regression as the season moves forward (those two also dominated when they first started, remember?) TL;DR: Yes, the trade could blow up in our faces, but hey, at least it will be the end of Dayton if it does! |
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You know when Myers would have mattered? In '15+, when DM's stupid ****ing ass is fired and a competent (we hope) GM is running things. |
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No, no. You can hate the trade and still appreciate Shields.
He's a stud. Awesome pitcher who has been sensational this year. The problem is that having Shields in the rotation for a year and a half is about as important as having Soria as a lights-out closer on a 100-loss team. |
I can't be happy or even see a good side even if the Myers trade gets moore fired.
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There are many reasons we aren't winning and many criticisms of Moore, but this trade thus far is clearly not one. |
Yeah, it's not a two-year window. Gordon through '16. Hosmer through '18. Etc.
There was a reason why Rany went on suicide watch when the trade went down last winter, and it's not because DM suddenly became savvy. |
I don't know... there's merit to it... but to me that's almost like saying we don't need a QB because the team sucks. But I think having a front line starter is really important. Having a great offense and five #3 starters isn't going to get you anywhere.
Hosmer and Moose are in their third year. This is when they are supposed to get it. Gordon and Butler are in the prime of their career. Perez is locked in. The pieces are there. |
In other news, The Royals are currently scouting the Padres...
The Royals board seems to think we're after Forsythe (with some hoping for Blanks). Thoughts? http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/.../#article-copy |
I understand what you're saying, but the QB analogy doesn't quite work because a great position player is > a great pitcher, so Myers is essentially the QB here.
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Finally, let's remember that we didn't have to keep Myers and do nothing; the Royals were allowed to use FA.
Santana has been pitching like an ace. + FA + Guthrie (smoke and mirrors, but whatever) + Chen (who is basically Davis) + Mendoza. I'll take the above formula. |
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Myers has hit two home runs (Again, let me point to the dominant starts that Hosmer and Moose both had. Myers still has an exuberant K rate, once pitchers figure him out, he could be in trouble) We would have likely been the 2002 Royals if we had kept Myers. No valuable Free Agent was going to sign with us, and we would have lost Santana by the middle of the season. Moore is an idiot, he mentioned that Moose could have been the highlight of the deal, but opted to go with Myers to avoid the latter's "growing pains." I also disagree with your assessment of hitters v. pitchers. The last three world series championships were not won by teams with powerful lineups. I'm done. |
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He likely would have required much more to sign with the Royals. Anibal was never an option. |
5/80 is what he signed - with a 16MM club option tacked on the end. (5MM buyout so I guess the deal is really 6/96 or 5/85)
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