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New World Order 11-28-2024 09:43 PM

Seems like Caleb looks for his first read then tucks and runs.

He looks like Rick Mirer

chiefzilla1501 11-28-2024 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17829384)
This is why I can’t put all the blame on the HC. Williams deserves some of the blame for how he handled the last :30 of that game.

There is just no logical explanation for a qb in that situation to mosey to the line and take 10 seconds to snap the damn ball. And a rookie isn’t stupid enough to know he has a timeout and can either clock it or get a quick play. Flus could have bailed him out but this was not a rookie mistake. These are two mistakes a high schooler should not make.

DrunkBassGuitar 11-28-2024 10:04 PM

Still not going to call him a bust yet but like the bustometer needle is not moving towards the "not a bust" side

UChieffyBugger 11-28-2024 10:14 PM

He went four games without throwing a touchdown before the last two games. Teams will study the film and hit him with more puzzles. We're seeing right now how Stroud has struggled because DC's went over the film and saw his tendencies. And that's why the great ones are great because they learn how to adapt quickly in-game.

Chiefshrink 11-28-2024 10:58 PM

Remember all of the anointing of this guy? I told you this guy is not a "student of the game"! And the sad part is this is so fundamental in clock management, and he didn't even recognize the situation. Just clock it and get a field goal attempt!

Chiefshrink 11-28-2024 11:00 PM

It's almost as if Eberflus knows he's getting fired prior to all this and he just let Caleb piss on his own shoes! Any coach would've intervened and called time out!

Bwana 11-29-2024 07:42 AM

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lcarus 11-29-2024 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 17829433)
Remember all of the anointing of this guy? I told you this guy is not a "student of the game"! And the sad part is this is so fundamental in clock management, and he didn't even recognize the situation. Just clock it and get a field goal attempt!

The sad part is they were marching down to get the win and they ****ed themselves with offensive PI and hands to the face penalties. The latter of which knocked them out of easy field goal range. They're horrid all the way around. I've seen people online blaming DJ Moore for pouting and bad body language and what not. It's hard to blame him really.

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17829424)
He went four games without throwing a touchdown before the last two games. Teams will study the film and hit him with more puzzles. We're seeing right now how Stroud has struggled because DC's went over the film and saw his tendencies. And that's why the great ones are great because they learn how to adapt quickly in-game.

The problem is these aren’t “tendencies.” These are instincts. I don’t agree that he isn’t a student of the game. I do wonder if he thinks he’s too smart. And sometimes those guys dont let their instincts take over. He’s got great WRs yet holds the ball for an eternity. He throws a 100 mph fastball on every pass, then a moonball with way too much air. Does he have a feel for the game? Because I just can’t remember seeing a worse sense of game management to end the game as we saw yesterday.

ThaVirus 11-29-2024 08:36 AM

He looked really good in the second half, which is encouraging.

Taking a sack to knock you out of field goal range AND failing to get to the line quickly was a huge **** up, but I blame Eberflus more. He should have called a timeout when the clock hit, like, :25 and they were still trying to get the play lined up.

warpaint* 11-29-2024 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17829384)
This is why I can’t put all the blame on the HC. Williams deserves some of the blame for how he handled the last :30 of that game.

They are both culpable but the buck always stops with the hc. Eberfus is a yr+ past his expiration date regardless.

I can’t fathom either’s thought process in that situation it was Les Miles bad.

It was astounding to watch live.

scho63 11-29-2024 08:45 AM

He is not learning from Eberflus and the Bears.

They need to clean house at coaching and get an OFFENSIVE talented coach.

If not, they will destroy him and waste his natural talent.

Bearcat 11-29-2024 08:59 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently the rookie QB didn&#39;t miss the urgency. He waited 20 seconds for the play, finally got it, recognized they didn&#39;t have enough time anymore and changed the play to try and win it. <br><br>This. Coaching. Staff. <a href="https://t.co/LR1sNeIO8W">https://t.co/LR1sNeIO8W</a></p>&mdash; Bill Zimmerman (@BillTZimmerman) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillTZimmerman/status/1862260492758032799?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TEX 11-29-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17829531)
He is not learning from Eberflus and the Bears.

They need to clean house at coaching and get an OFFENSIVE talented coach.

If not, they will destroy him and waste his natural talent.


Exactly the case.

ThaVirus 11-29-2024 09:45 AM

Caleb’s thought process is pretty defensible:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caleb Williams says there was no &quot;big communication&quot; between him and the coaches. He got a play in at 13 seconds but he saw the time on the clock and changed the play because he realized they didn&#39;t have enough time for the play called <a href="https://t.co/WD4VUByeIR">pic.twitter.com/WD4VUByeIR</a></p>&mdash; 79th &amp; Halas Podcast (@79thAndHalas) <a href="https://twitter.com/79thAndHalas/status/1862257942604468475?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caleb Williams when asked whether calling a timeout late in the 4th Q is above his pay grade: “In that situation, I’m living with the call and letting coaches make that decision…maybe in the later years of my career (he may call a timeout himself), right now I get the call and…</p>&mdash; Courtney Cronin (@CourtneyRCronin) <a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1862258750461014435?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Eberflus’ is not:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In last 30 NFL seasons, 1,501 times has a team lost by 1-3 pts in regulation (reg+post).<br><br>Of those, only the Bears today ran a play from inside the opponent&#39;s 30 on the final drive but ultimately had time expire without bringing out the FG unit &amp; without using all their timeouts.</p>&mdash; OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaSTATS/status/1862322770949882337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He says he thought they handled it “the right way”.


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