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Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9269379)
Sounds like he was hoping to drop him off.
Do we have any reports of success\failure?

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9269379)
Sounds like he was hoping to drop him off.
Would have been my plan.

Thig Lyfe 01-02-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BradBigglestein (Post 9269317)
The Vick decision was apparently his. No one knows for sure, but that is what was agreed upon publicly by the organization. He had to sell Jeff Lurie on it, but Lurie was fine with giving him a chance.

The line was good last year. This year it sucked because they lost Jason Peters who was a top 3 lineman last year, lost Todd Herremans this year, lost Jason Kelce this year. A ton of injuries. Also Danny Watkins our former first round pick sucks. That is on Reid, he gives the final say in personnel and it was a bad pick.

So it is a mix. Lacking talent, injuries.
Thanks for the info.

*snaps neck*

We got what we needed, boys. Let's move out.

notorious 01-02-2013 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269387)
This guy could be the ****ing Frankie or KCJohnny of EaglesPlanet, for all we know.
His takes read different.

New blood can't hurt. If he fits here, he will stick around.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9269384)
We can root all we want to. Pioli is with Clark doing interviews, not looking for a job. If Clark was going to fire him Pioli wouldn't be along for the ride. Not only will Pioli be the GM next year he is getting his say on who the head coach is. We will all have to wait another year to "start over"..... again.
:facepalm:

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269382)
Just making a point.

No one knows WHY Pioli went on that trip or to what degree IF ANY he was involved.

Yet everyone is about to pass out from the loss of period blood.

Occam's ****ing razor. Buyout. Some really smart people are ignoring common sense and saying some really stupid shit today.

If Reid falls through, and Pioli is still here come February - then Clark's made it easy on everyone - walk away.
I agree. It would seem like Pioli hasn't been officially fired because of buyout negotiations.

But this has absolutely no connection for why he'd be present or along for any interviews of any kind.

Hell, remember when Chan Gailey wasn't "officially fired"? He was essentially removed from 1 Arrowhead, but he was still the OC in name for a bit.

If you're working on a buyout with an individual who currently possesses no say or sway within your company, common sense says that the guy should probably be at home. Literally.

You don't use the company dime to give him a trip for ATL for any reason. None. That defies common sense on all levels.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9269383)
I get your point.

But I also understand that after the Senior Bowl and the Combine.......a QB will rise to the top.
I hope you're right.

I know that a lot of people here love certain guys (Bray, Wilson and Smith) but when I've watched them play, I must have caught them on bad days because none of those guys to me scream "Franchise QB".

FloridaMan88 01-02-2013 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269360)
WHY THE **** DID CLARK TAKE PIOLI TO ATLANTA?
Hopefully to try to dump him off on Dimitroff

mcaj22 01-02-2013 03:52 PM
im from PA and gave you the same answers about Reid that the Eagles fan did. and I love the Chiefs. one thing is for sure all Eagles fans are the same when it comes to their team

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269345)
Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.
I 1000% disagree that the Cardinals can fix their atrocious line in one offseason as well as find a QB in one offseason. They are a mess, much like we are. And I think finding 3-4 des really isn't that difficult of a proposition.

The Cardinals also have to compete with the 49ers and Seattle, 2 teams that will constantly be better than they are for the next 3-4 years without question.

tooge 01-02-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269345)
Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.
good post. The only caveat I would add is that we think the coaching at AZ was OK. We know the coaching in KC was terrible. IF, and it's a big IF, KC were to sign either Bowe or Albert, and franchise the other, AND, the KC improves the coaching and QB play, I think that KC is a better team.

One more point, regarding QB's. Part of the reason that there don't seem to be any QB's worthy of the first pick in the draft is that evaluators typically look for the "pro style" QB with the ability to play from under center and drop back and be a pocket passer. Well, times are a changin. Look at Russel Wilson, Kapaernick, RG3. The league is opening up to the idea of the spread offense and qbs that do most of their work out of the shotgun. I'm not so sure that a Geno Smith type guy isn't the prototypical QB the NFL has in 5 years.

Sorter 01-02-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9269395)
Thanks for the info.

*snaps neck*

We got what we needed, boys. Let's move out.
http://i.imgur.com/R7tap.gif

penguinz 01-02-2013 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269402)
I agree. It would seem like Pioli hasn't been officially fired because of buyout negotiations.

But this has absolutely no connection for why he'd be present or along for any interviews of any kind.

Hell, remember when Chan Gailey wasn't "officially fired"? He was essentially removed from 1 Arrowhead, but he was still the OC in name for a bit.

If you're working on a buyout with an individual who currently possesses no say or sway within your company, common sense says that the guy should probably be at home. Literally.

You don't use the company dime to give him a trip for ATL for any reason. None. That defies common sense on all levels.
Maybe his contract stipulates he has to be involved. If so Clark would be in breach of contract if he was not present during interviews.

Rugby Thompson 01-02-2013 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9269408)
I 1000% disagree that the Cardinals can fix their atrocious line in one offseason as well as find a QB in one offseason. They are a mess, much like we are. And I think finding 3-4 des really isn't that difficult of a proposition.

The Cardinals also have to compete with the 49ers and Seattle, 2 teams that will constantly be better than they are for the next 3-4 years without question.
The rams too are going to be a threat, that's going to be a tough division. He would have more success in KC, all you really have to worry about is denver

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269402)
I agree. It would seem like Pioli hasn't been officially fired because of buyout negotiations.

But this has absolutely no connection for why he'd be present or along for any interviews of any kind.

Hell, remember when Chan Gailey wasn't "officially fired"? He was essentially removed from 1 Arrowhead, but he was still the OC in name for a bit.

If you're working on a buyout with an individual who currently possesses no say or sway within your company, common sense says that the guy should probably be at home. Literally.

You don't use the company dime to give him a trip for ATL for any reason. None. That defies common sense on all levels.
You can bash Fescoe's tweet all you want, but if I'm Clark, and I'm looking to get rid of Pioli as cheaply as possible and I know that Scott's buddy Dimitroff could possibly have an opening - and I'm going to ATL to interview HC candidates - you're goddamn right I put him on the plane.

No one even knows if Pioli was in the interview, they just assume it.

He could just have easily been discussing a position with Dimitroff while Clark and the posse were doing interviews.

But sure, let's all jump off the deep end.


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