Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17510073)

I always try to be respectful, so I will say that's like, your opinion, man.

Remember the play where Mahomes threw a jump pass to Hardman in Tennessee, and he literally split defenders, one of which was college track athlete Adore Jackson, and ran away from them like they were standing still?

At no time during his 40 did it appear that Worthy was running faster than Hardman's top speed on that play. Was he moving faster? Probably, but I have watched nearly every college snap Worthy has taken, and I never saw him do anything like that. I saw him run away from guys, but not like Hardman did on that play.

I am on record as wanting Worthy in the first (and several other big time receivers) and I think he is going to be great, and I think he is really fast, but he dropped weight and trained specifically to run a fast 40. It is the fastest 40 ever recorded at the combine, yet Worthy is probably not even in the top 5 for fastest players I have seen on a football field, and again, I have seen almost every snap Worthy took in college.

Bo Jackson, Prime, Darrell Green, Tyreek, Vick, and Randy Moss all looked faster, to me, on the football field. The "fast" guy whose speed kinda matches Worthy is Chris Johnson. He was very fast, but never looked like his 40 time should look.

Then there are guys that I don't really remember, but I know were fast, like Bob Hayes, Willie Gault, etc.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17510278)

Worthy’s speed jumped off the screen to me watching him torch my Texas Tech guys the last few years. But I am more interested to see how he does for the Chiefs with route-running, awareness/ball tracking, and catching the ball when it’s there to be caught. These are fundamental aspects of the game that have been missing with guys like Hardman, MVS, Toney, & Skyy Moore.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17509991)

Odds are 99.9999% against Worthy to be a Tyreek level player. I would just like to see him display better awareness on the field than guys like MVS, Hardman, Toney, and Skyy Moore.

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17510404)

Worthy may be a shade faster than Tyreek ever was but Tyreek is super quick as well as fast. They both can jump like grass hoppers and neither have the greatest hands.

I think Worthy's ceiling is he'll be our faster version of DeSean Jackson assuming he can become a exceptional route runner. Tyreek has that jitter quickness that I don't think can be matched. He's a unicorn in that way.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17510442)

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17510442)

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17510007)

So, when you remember how fast Bo Jackson was, or Primetime, or Green, etc. you can't see them running in your mind?

Are you one of those people with no inner monolog?

Yeah, I can compare a memory to a video. Also, I can tell how fast I am driving without looking at the speedometer. I can match the passing of time, with distance traveled, and do a calculation of who was faster.

Also, if you read my comment carefully, I said that I feel like I have seen Tyreek run faster in pads. I didn't say I know for a fact, or imply that Tyreek actually was faster in pads.

If you watched the combine, and watched the 40 yard dash, do all of the players look like they are going the same speed to you? I don't really understand how you can't compare players speed during the 40 because they aren't running at the same time (or being simulcast)

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17510453)

Damn. That's a fine looking trophy case.