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Is it time to start Foles over Smith? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=302115)

Beef Supreme

10-31-2016 02:21 PM

So Foles missed on a few passes. Coming off the bench and seeing actual game time for the first time in a while. And he still looked better than Smith.

I love how the Alex nut huggers want to micro-analyze every single missed throw of Foles, but don't do the same for Alex, or even acknowledge the throws that he doesn't even try to make.

Foles looked better than Smith, and Smith was having a good game. Yeah, he missed some stuff, but come the **** on.

Ming the Merciless

10-31-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12519959)

You may be correct, I'm just going off memory - which could be wrong. I just remember thinking he floated it and missed an easy one.

ANd likewise you could be correct. I only saw it live, full speed and I dont think they even replayed it..but my kids were playing in the room i was in and my wife was wrangling them so I could enjoy my sunday LOL...

But anyway for SURE he couldve floated it..but at the time i remember thinking it looked like a timing pattern and thinking west lost traction or foot slipped..WOuld love to see this play again A22 style

bsroyals54

10-31-2016 02:23 PM

Foles can do everything Smith does, but has a sack between his legs. Thats the difference. This team SCORES SO FEW POINTS WITH THE HIGHEST TURNOVER DIFFERENTIAL IN THE LEAGUE. That's saying something folks. And is the main reason we're winning regular season games. Not Smiths excellent throwing arm.

Sandy Vagina

10-31-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12519958)

Absolutely nothing. Alex Smith is their guy.

Which is why I'm hoping Alex forces their hand and retires.

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Pete Sweeney ‏@pgsween 3h3 hours ago
Smith will see an independent neurologist here in Kansas City. Thus far, Burkholder says Smith has been asymptomatic.

Time for you to pony up all that money you normally throw at CP to allow you back in, and now give it this neurologist. Hurry up. Tick tick...

Beef Supreme

10-31-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12519948)

Well, I mean, apart from that being incorrect...

And besides, I've never crowed about Smith's accuracy either, but that gets back to Smith's general recognition of his limitations. He's not an outstanding downfield passer so he doesn't put the ball in harm's way. He's a pretty good intermediate passer, especially over the middle. When he takes his shots downfield, that's where he likes to do it. But unlike Foles, if the throw isn't in rhythm, he's not throwing it late over the middle where a miss comes back the other way.

Foles isn't an outstanding downfield passer but **** it, he's throwing it anyway. Good luck trying that against a team with a credible secondary.

There's probably a happy middle between the two but if you're picking one guy for this team, the choice should be the guy that doesn't set your defense up in tough spots and allows you to keep the football longer to utilize your running game.

Foles is a better fit for a team with a bad defense that needs to win in shootouts. He'll get hot on occasion and can go out there, feel his oats and throw with just about anyone. But he'll also take you right out of games that were easily winnable. Smith's a better fit for a team with a good defense and strong running game.

What part of that was incorrect? Look at the stats. Foles completed 72.7%, Alex Smith 47.4%.

bsroyals54

10-31-2016 02:25 PM

We are going to see a lot more 100+ yard receivers with Foles on this team. With the same defense. Thats a scary team folks. Bank on it

DJ's left nut

10-31-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12519964)

So Foles missed on a few passes. Coming off the bench and seeing actual game time for the first time in a while. And he still looked better than Smith.

I love how the Alex nut huggers want to micro-analyze every single missed throw of Foles, but don't do the same for Alex, or even acknowledge the throws that he doesn't even try to make.

Folks looked better than Smith, and Smith was having a good game. Yeah, he missed some stuff, but come the **** on.

I love how the folks that can't give Smith credit for anything want to ignore the fact that playing a glorified 7 on 7 game is right in Foles' wheelhouse.

You really think that throwing balls late over the middle is a good idea against a team with any kind of secondary? Or that guys are just going to forget to pass off a simple go route from the primary read when they have any talent back there to speak of?

He did a fine job but again, you don't analyse results to predict future performance; you analyse process. Foles did some things that he wouldn't get away with against decent teams and that has to be remembered because not doing those things is pretty much the one real strength that Smith has.

If you want a fair discussion of the two, you have to also recognize the degree of difficulty.

DJ's left nut

10-31-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 12519967)

This team has the highest turnover differential in the league because Alex Smith doesn't throw up jump balls 50 yards downfield...

bsroyals54

10-31-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12519979)

This team has the highest turnover differential in the league because Alex Smith doesn't throw up jump balls 50 yards downfield...

Marcus. Peters.

Hammock Parties

10-31-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12519969)

Time for you to pony up all that money you normally throw at CP to allow you back in, and now give it this neurologist. Hurry up. Tick tick...

**** man. If I had the resources I would absolutely bribe anyone to do anything legal that forced Alex Smith out of football.

DJ's left nut

10-31-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 12519982)

Marcus. Peters.

Sure. He's helped.

Two. Interceptions.

That's helped a fair amount as well.

If you're going to pick a reason to dislike Alex Smith, there are a myriad of them. Citing turnover margin in support of it, however, is pretty ****ing stupid.

bsroyals54

10-31-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12519993)

One of the main gripes with Alex Smith is all the times hes given up on plays. When instead they could of extended a possession instead of killing them. Foles isn't coward. The plums between his legs are indeed balls, not fruit. Let your Gronkowski-esque TE make a goddamn play once in a while. Kelce's name isn't huge because he doesn't have a competent, nutsack wielding QB.

Hammock Parties

10-31-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12519993)

The defense forcing a turnover is the ONLY reason Alex Smith put the ball in the end zone yesterday.

The defense LEADS THE LEAGUE in takeaways, but we were 23rd in offensive points coming into Sunday.

:facepalm:

TigeRRUppeRRcut

10-31-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 12519974)

We are going to see a lot more 100+ yard receivers with Foles on this team. With the same defense. Thats a scary team folks. Bank on it

You need to watch more football before making inane statements

The Franchise

10-31-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12520009)

You need to watch more football before making inane statements

Coming from you....that's hilarious.