Credit where it’s due. Bills OL is really good. They beat the shit out of the Broncos. Completely dominated the best pass rushing DL in the league

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spencer Brown was lights out yesterday against the Broncos with several impact blocks. He has been a personal protector for Allen scrambling right all season, a weapon in the screen game and dialed in on an island using a potent snatch-trap technique and effective change-ups. <a href="https://t.co/RZLwgA3R49">pic.twitter.com/RZLwgA3R49</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1878832500069585194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bills are physically dominant on offense but their defense just lacks that. It’s been their biggest issue for years prior and if their biggest issue this year. Won’t be a problem against teams like Denver, but Baltimore and Kansas City? i’d be shocked if Buffalo is capable of beating both. Allen would have to have the greatest run by a QB in postseason history.

Double standards for sure.

MVP Lamar in 2023: 65/100 QBR
"Bad" Mahomes in 2024: 68/100 QBR

Patrick has to win every game and even when he does that, people still find a way to talk shit about him. It's pathetic. But you know the same thing happened for years with Brady (3 MVP's) compared to Peyton Manning (5 MVP's) and Aaron Rodgers (4 MVP's). Everyone tried to prop up the other 2 guys. But when it was all said and done? 7 rings for Brady, 2 rings for Manning, 1 ring for Rodgers. And now everybody has to admit Brady was the best, the GOAT.

The hilarious thing is that Peyton Manning was absolutely carried by his defenses to win both of his rings, which is something many people have said about Brady during his career. Peyton threw 3 TD and 7 INT in the Playoff run when the Colts won the Super Bowl. His arm & neck were completely shot to hell when the phenomenal Denver defense carried him to a 2nd ring later on.

I miss the old social media feeds from before this weekend. Everything is now rigged for the Bills because of the TD catch that was reviewed. Mobody is talking about the Chiefs.

The sharps have already bet on Baltimore enough to swing the spread in their favor, now BAL -1.

Do with that what you will.

Didn't Ed Oliver abuse our O-line in the first meeting? Milano is pretty good too and I believe he's been hurt at various points this year. I don't remember if he played in our first meeting. They're not the 85 Bears but their defense isn't bad. They just looked horrendous in the Rams game but that might have been an outlier. You don't see many games with that score.

What did it open at?

why do i care what puny homeless man’s aaron donald does in a regular season game?

we’ve seen it time and time again in the playoffs with this bills team. their D line simply gets overmatched. it happened against us thrice and happened against the Bengals. yeah, they have some good players on defense. a lot, actually. but no one special. no chris jones, no roquan smith, they’re all good, not great. they’re heavily scheme reliant.

when bills/ravens was first confirmed my gut said bills bc Lamar < JAllen but as i talk about the bills i’m starting to think this could actually be a ravens rout

that DL against the Ravens OL and Henry? unless harbaugh, monken and lamar go full tropic thunder i’m taking baltimore

Bills will stomp dat Ravens flock.

English please.

Chiefs = Good
Other teams = Bad

Chiefs win versus other teams.

Spencer Brown is sorta the Trey Smith of OTs. A generally effective pass protector if not an elite one but where he shines is as a good physical presence in most things he does.

I don't think he's a great OT, but he's a damn solid one and he plays with a nasty streak that I'm sure his QB appreciates.

Bills r faulked!

I'm just glad he's turned it around; I was pushing for us to look at him coming out of Northern Iowa.

BUF -1

The Bills suck.

All he really has to do is stay healthy.

1st world problems in the NFL. I hope we're bitching about this for the next 15 years.

He's also reason to be optimistic about Suamataia and Morris still having upside. Brown was inconsistent and at times downright awful in his first two years.

But, but, but..."KC gets ALL the calls!" :rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never have I seen a ref apologize to a QB for anything during a game on the sideline. This ref is clearly apologizing to Josh Allen for something. This is just unacceptable <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPlayoffs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPlayoffs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AFCWildCard?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AFCWildCard</a> <a href="https://t.co/kZxZrdLq8O">pic.twitter.com/kZxZrdLq8O</a></p>&mdash; Jay Henry (@jayhenry79) <a href="https://twitter.com/jayhenry79/status/1878536266352128356?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pretty sure the ref told him to not yell at him

wont stop conspiracy gooners

You know damn well if that was Mahomes, they'd be bitching for the next 10 years.

It isn't even about the exchange itself, it's the inherent hypocrisy attached to it.

That's how Allen relayed it, sure.

But I have eyes.

That 'hands to the chest' motion most assuredly is NOT "stop yelling at me..."

Dude apologized for missing a call. It's a shit look and were it anyone but Allen (or Jackson) -- the anointed challengers of the mighty Mahomes -- it would have people up in arms.

It was ridiculous.

And Josh Allen thinks we're stupid.

In your case, it appears he's right.

Listen guys…far be it from me to defend Josh Allen getting dapped up by the refs. That was ridiculous that he went to the bench. Looking at what Allen could see…he was right.

Surtain was definitely holding in the endzone and it was insane that it wasn’t called. If that was us we’d all be livid.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My guys in the background working the ref �� <a href="https://t.co/ynEn8iizIW">pic.twitter.com/ynEn8iizIW</a></p>&mdash; YardsPerPass (@YardsPerPass) <a href="https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/1878916621106037211?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Speaking of..Surtain was god awful. He gave up something like 85 yards and a TD and adding this onto it?

Dude got his ass kicked

Who said it wasn't? It was OBVIOUSLY a missed hold.

Which makes this idea that the ref went to him and said "don't yell at me!" as he was giving the universal 'my bad' gesture and they proceeded to dap each other up all the more ridiculous.

There's no question at all what it was. And for Allen to even try to say otherwise (or anyone in the world to believe it) is just insulting.

That ref will probably name his next kid out of wedlock, Josh

I just have no time for the nonsense. I dont have the energy to give AF if the ref came and apologized for a bad call, which it was. I also ****ing hate the constant drivel of conspiracies ruining actual football discourse. Im so done with it. I ignore all the people who screams about the chiefs and the refs and I try to do it with the dumbassess saying it here but it’s tiresome seeing this shit in every thread

Nice! LMAO

Who called it a 'conspiracy'?

The Bills stomped the dog piss out of the Broncos and would've done so regardless of what any ref would've said to Allen.

But I'm not gonna act like he didn't go apologize to Allen for the missed call. He did. And yeah, the reaction would've been MUCH different had it happened to PM.

But I think we've all seen enough NFL Films stuff to know that the chatter like that goes on all the time out there. The players all know each of these refs. They aren't strangers -- they converse.

That's just a fair bit more overt than we normally see.

Not necessarily. He could be saying "look, i'm out here working just as hard as you to do my job". Refs don't yell at players when they **** up so what right do players have to yell at refs if they miss something?

Greg Jennings said refs frequently tell players sorry about missed calls during the game. Just not on the sideline. They will never go out of their way to apologize.

That was weird. And it didn’t look good. Wouldn’t be surprised if the NFL sent this ref a message telling him to not do that again.

They pissed on our heads and Allen told us it was raining...

Lamar is a 1 point favorite in Josh Allem's house

Favored to lose.

Yes but the general spread is 3 for the home team.

Meaning, the odds betters don't like the Bills in this matchup

Is this Dicklix? We proved that the weird old guy in the photos wasn't him, right?

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God damn I'm sick of looking at his stupid face.

If I understand how they set the point spread the books try to set a spread which will draw bets equally on both sides---they make their money on the vig

Yessss. Build up the moment as much as possible. Get to feeel like you are super human. Then we get to watch Pat steal your soul again, like he has the last few years, and it will be even more rewarding. It’s fun being able to see it happen in real time each year.

Well if they thought "Just one more win" then they might hold Taylor accountable for the fact that they fall down out of the gates every single season.

And we KNOW that's not gonna happen.

zero pressure on the chiefs in the afc championship

There’s really zero pressure on the Chiefs as long as Reid and Mahomes are here.

They’re already a top 3 productive QB-Coach combo all time.

Just getting to the AFCCG for a 7th straight time is a major accomplishment. 3 Lombardis already is huge.

I'd like to believe it's true and maybe it is for the all other fan bases in how they view us.

But I'd be lying if I said it would be a big disappointment not to stack a couple more, at least. It's a moving target. While Buffalo's dildo yankers would kill for a single Lombardi in Allen's career, that's not how we operate. We are trying to become the greatest dynasty to ever exist and have what it takes to do so.

You realize we have to get there first , not sure why everyone is just skipping over the Texans game .

I don't think the last-place schedule will be enough to save Taylor from losing Anuruomo.

We'll see, but I still think he covered up for a lot of Taylor's deficiencies.

Easier done than said.

this year is a prime example. take away all of anaruomo's resources on defense, the defense is bad, and taylor's flaws as a coach were on FULL display all season. his coaching against donk was flabbergastingly bad

As fans, we can do anything we want. The team isn't overlooking the Texans and no amount of chatter from fans will change that.

I’ll see it when I believe it ~ Patrick (the messiah) Mahomes

:LOL:

Probably the mountain of evidence suggesting they'll win? ;)

No, I don't think anyone proved that. I'm pretty sure it was him. Lol

And that’s why people lose money betting on NFL games. Bills are going to smack the Ravens.

I don’t disagree. I expect Mahomes to win 5 Lombardis at this point.

I’m sure he’ll get the farewell tour ring like Brady, Manning, Elway. I expect 1 other at some point too.

Of course, pull off this 3-peat? Shit, he probably wins 6.

Not a chance.

Allen has balled out in the playoffs more than Lamar has. If it’s windy Sunday night forget about it. Lamar’s arm would malfunction. Bills would key in on Henry and make Lamar throw lame ducks all over the place.

If they "key in on Henry" than Lamar can just as easily have a career day on the ground. The Bill run D is not very good, and it's definitely not shutting them both down.

diqlix is 1000% not the old dude. LMAO

And not the guy in the video.

IIRC the old picture was actually him using aging software

I’ll believe it when I see it with Lamar. The weather and Bills home field would be too much imo.

11 degrees and wind chill close to 0. You’d think those conditions would affect Lamar throwing the ball.

Assuming Zay Flowers doesn’t play…why wouldn’t you flood the box and middle of field? Nobody on the outside receiver should scare the Bills

Allen’s good playoff resume is almost exclusively wild card games. Add in the OT divisional game and people act like he’s Mahomes in the playoffs. In all but one of his playoff losses he has been average at best to bad. He’s been better than Lamar but they are closer in playoff performance than people realize. I see no clear good predictable QB performance advantage here. The Ravens with a better defense and running game gives them the victory for me.

Allen is the Tesla of QBs. Actual distance may very, considerably

Allen and Jackson both roughly .500 playoff QB's.

Rashad Bateman has actually been really good outside the numbers this year (and would be even better if more of a focal point/paired with a more adept passing QB).

But yeah, I think you'd still try to make the Ravens beat you with him, and focus on taking away the deep seams to the TEs, the flats to Likely, and the run game.

I'm just not sure Buffalo has the horses up front to get it done. There is not much "beef" in the middle of their DL or in the second level. Even Milano is a smaller LB who can struggle to shed blocks if people get hands on him.

Now TwoBillsDrive is talking shit about Reid and airing his dirty laundry. Pathetic fan base.

What dirty laundry? Stuff with his kids? If so.. that is pathetic and low.

Yes, all of it.

If you look at their playoff stats, it isn’t even close. Josh Allen has been significantly better than Lamar

Bunch of low lifes...

Eh.

Focusing on eliminating Henry CAN also eliminate Jackson's legs. Gotta maintain gap discipline but if you do, Jackson's not going to have the room to come forward on his scrambles. Everything is going to have to go sideways first and that takes a lot of the ceiling out of those runs.

Jackson's real headaches come in two ways these days -- 1) Up the chute when he sees a quick opening in the A gap (sometimes B gap) and just bursts through the middle and now you have guys who have lost their angles almost immediately. Those are 40 yarders waiting to happen. Or 2) The scramble drill shit that he's gotten annoyingly good at. He does get sideways and backwards in ways that allow him to buy time and hit open receivers when the back end falters.

If the wind takes away 2, gap discipline designed to stop Henry should bottle up 1. That leaves him with, what, speed option shit?

Pft - go right ahead.

I just don't know that it matters. I don't think stopping 1 is a realistic possibility for Buffalo because they just don't have the personnel to do it. I could see Baltimore doing to them what they did to Denver last week and just shoving them around the field.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying I don't see the Bills garbage run defense doing it.

oh so hes just fat

I'm assuming public on Bills so that means the Sharps are slamming Baltimore.

Do they talk of Allen fondling kids?

This just bring up OJ, dumbasses

They both have ONE win in the divisional round.