Should have let Mahomes start in the playoffs in 2017 JUST SAYING!

Hopefully he signs with them

He is old

I really dont want to give up two firsts to move up. I would be happy with six good players in the first 3 rounds.

I don’t think they trade up that high.

But I could see them giving up a day 2 pick to move up into the early 20s.

I don't think he's the listed 6'4'' but I'm not sure he's 6'1'' either. I think he's about Ingram's size. I don't think he's as sturdy as Ingram but he's a lot more athletic.

He'd have to use his first step to keep OL from getting directly into his body at the snap. With his quickness I think he could.

But again, I think the guy just might be a stand-up OLB in a perfect world.

Clowney makes more sense than Ingram anyway.

Dotson probably has the best hands in this draft. That would be a solid pick. Pickens on the other hand is the flashier pick. At one time he was projected to be the #1 WR in the country then got hurt. So I'm rolling with the flashier player but really like Dotson.

Hello

I don't like Dotson at all. A little undersized and not exactly a burner. He's basically an Emmanual Sanders clone, which is not what i'm looking for to finish off that WR room.

Man, if Emmanuel Sanders (but more polished coming out) isn’t good enough at 29/30, then your expectations are a little too high.

I think Sanders and Diontae Johnson (with better hands) are perfect comparisons for him, and that would be damn good at the end of the 1st.

I’d prefer Burks or Pickens, but Dotson would be a really solid pick.

Yup Sanders in this offense would ****ing rock

Hi

The Sanders comparison is very interesting. Although Dotson does boast a strong 4.43 40, his game speed doesn't reflect it on tape. Also there are question whether he can succeed on the outside. But his insane catch radius and Patrick flare for throwing contested balls could work really well together. So I ultimately agree with you except I like Dotson, but prefer Pickens.

You wouldn’t take an Emmanuel Sanders at 29 overall?

Emmanuel Sanders had a 1000 yard season with Siemien and Lynch throwing him the ball

Gimme

He absolutely looks like a 4.4ish guy on tape. He’s not a Christian Watson elite speed kind of WR, but he’s plenty fast enough to get behind a defense.

And I have no doubt that he can play on the outside. He definitely showed that he can do that.

Until he signs back with Cleveland.

we built the OL from the inside out
Why not do this with the DL?

Ok, I'm in on Woolen.

Nah i'm good. I'm looking for a boundary receiver. I don't like Sanders' game and i don't like Dotson's game.

That's just me though, and i'm not saying he can't have a nice career.

I guess i'm an "elite physical traits" guy and i don't see that in Dotson. I've never been high on guys like Amari Cooper etc either.

Meanwhile, George Pickens, Christian Watson etc....those kinda guys i find highly intriguing as they have the physical tools to be electric on the perimeter.

so is everyone else

Apparently i deleted my post, but i'd honestly rather pass on a WR in the 1st if Dotson is the option.

In the open field he is plenty fast. In and out of routes is when he looks pretty casual. However, if the ball is around him at all the chances of him coming away with it are really good. The guy's hands are special.

They say he struggled at times with a hard press corners because he is a bit undersized. He'd be lethal as a slot option on deep and intermediate routes. He kind of reminds me of a Keenan Allen except Dotson is faster and Allen is more quick than fast. I think he's more suited on the inside and we need an outside threat.

Keenan Allen is a lot bigger.

And we already have 3 slot receivers on the roster in Schuster, Hardman and MVS.

At some point this team needs to real outside threat.

5'-11" 180lbs is just another guy who's going to get bodied by real NFL corners.

People are just ****ing whack. You want higher upside than a damn good player in his prime like Sanders, yet you scoff at the the high upside guys with risk like Watson.

Let's be honest, what you really want is a guy like Garrett Wilson at 30. High ceiling, high floor, clean prospect. I'm sure there are 30 guys like that in this class.

Just dumb. It must be the oversaturation of draft content that's given people such dumb expectations. Hitting on one of our two firsts, and having him on the team in 3-4 years playing at a good level, would be a success. We aren't getting Calvin Johnson and Aaron Donald at 29 and 30.

Never heard of him until today.

I do agree with that. We need a guy that plays strong against an outside press. Even Pickens struggled to separate at times against a strong press corner.

I don't know who you're talking to.

Pfft debating which WR to take is pointless, Mahomes will make him look like a god book it. (Side eye Hardman)

Actually they say 53% of first round picks don't live up to their draft stock. So no matter where you're picking in the first round there is a high chance the player is going to be a disappointment. I mean Donald wasn't even a top 10 pick that year. So it truly is a gamble.

All I'm saying is it's hard to suck at corner in Spags system when you've shown Woolen's ability. He's a former WR so he has ball skills, instincts. On top of that he's generally going to be the fastest guy on the field. He's a very, very, rare athlete. You just don't see it.

I spent too much time watching more George Pickens last night.

I've spent more time watching him than any other player. I must've watched his "every target" videos at least twice now for both 2019 and 2020.

My main concern with him:

I thought in his Freshman year campaign he lost too many 50/50 balls. When the catches became contested, he didn't win nearly as often as you'd like.

In 2020, you could see improvements on that. He was winning more of those 50/50 balls than in his freshman year. He looks like he added some weight too, so that my have been part of it.

He had a couple minor mental drops. Not a big deal.

There were a pair of INT's that could've been avoided if Pickens positioned himself/played the ball better.

Watching him vs LSU's Stingley Jr. was real fun, but as you mentioned, Pickens struggled a bit when Stingley got physical. But Pickens won his share too, which was nice to see.

Ultimately i feel that with Pickens, even when he loses on those 50/50 balls, you can see the raw talent and athleticism is there. It just oozes off the screen to where some of those losses really could've been wins thanks to his pure size and catch radius. And he moves so damn well....

you know, I used to think that but not sure anymore
I would now like a strong D and running game to go along

I haven't looked at Woolen at all.

But give me the rare athlete freaks over the seasoned technician any day of the week. Just my preference.

Pulled this from the draft forum:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career drop rates<br><br>George Pickens: 2.1%<br>Skyy Moore: 3.3%<br><br>Chris Olave: 4.7%<br>Jahan Dotson: 5.1%<br>Drake London: 5.7<br><br>Alec Pierce: 6.4%<br>Garrett Wilson: 6.8%<br>Justyn Ross: 7.1%<br>Treylon Burks: 7.4%<br>Jameson Williams: 7.7%<br>Jalen Tolbert: 8.4%<br><br>Christian Watson: 12.7% <a href="https://t.co/QH1qlhHq2L">pic.twitter.com/QH1qlhHq2L</a></p>&mdash; Ben Linsey (@PFF_Linsey) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Linsey/status/1512079564431761412?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I probably would as well, but I won’t be upset with a Dotson selection either.

Yes, he relies heavily on simply being a great athlete. Had he been able to show growth as a route runner, separation off his cuts, he could have well been a top 10 WR. I think he'll go in the first round though even with the injury.

Love that. I'd be thrilled with Woolen, Pickens, and Bonitto in the second.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/sRgRZZR4fE">pic.twitter.com/sRgRZZR4fE</a></p>&mdash; Lexi (@lexiosborne) <a href="https://twitter.com/lexiosborne/status/1513998540552425477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol all that bitching about Hardman not working out with Pat was always silly.

Forgot we signed Corey Coleman ha

I think Hardman has a career year. New look offense is gonna have teams on their heels out of the gate.

Will be less predictable. Mahomes force feeds Kelce still sometimes but now he can't force it to Hill. He will be a better QB for this.

Dotson is getting top ten smoke

Pickens would be a good get. Do not want Watson, overrated as hell. We need a Edge and WR with first round picks

Lol no.

I'd want Watson if Veach chose him. I know that's lazy but I would be very excited if Veach saw things in him.

I'm literally watching him get interviewed on NFL network right now and them quoting people saying top ten.

I'm not saying he'll go top ten but that is the definition of smoke.

Apparently bitching about players missing voluntary informal/player-organized pre-OTA work outs is a thing now, JFC.

There are literally quotes like that for 50 different prospects every single year.

There is absolutely no ****ing chance that Dotson goes top 15 let alone top 10.

Not a single reliable person has said this.

That “smoke” is really a fart.

well there are still people that are happy with taking CEH over Taylor because that's who we chose.

Weird to see a guy with Woolen's physical traits have a day three grade his NFL draft profile. Above average back up they say. Interesting, but if I were to reach on a pick it'd be a freak like him.

Wait, I just watched that segment on YT and they literally showed 1 quote /tweet from MICAH PARSONS saying that “Jahan Dotson will be a top 10 pick”.

His former teammate saying he’s going top 10 is not ****ing “smoke”.

LMAO

https://youtu.be/GtljsoOyZ_I

Holy shit you’re clueless :facepalm:

Probably because this is the Mahomes show and Taylor wouldn't do any more than Clyde here, unless he stayed healthy.

yes he would lol

I approve of this message

hello sirs

So I guess everything is just done until the draft?

TIV

hello sirs

Kinda of like Kareem was a marginal player in this offense compared to CEH/sarcasm

Hi SR!

Steven Nelson signed 1 year with the Texans.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Is Drob still out there? Is this going to be a deal where if we dont get our guy in the draft they call up Demarcus?

He signed with the Raiders.

I will never understand that guy spending his days putting Bob Sutton and the Chiefs organization on blast when all Sutton and the Chiefs ever did was give him an opportunity to be a starting boundary corner when his size/speed said he shouldn't be, then make him look FAR better than his raw talent.

Sutton and the Chiefs made Steven Nelson a very wealthy man. And all he ever did was shit on them for it.

**** that guy with a cactus. $25 million in career earnings for the sort of player who usually has the same career as a guy like Asa Jackson and then is done by 27. Made possible by the organization and DC that gambled on him but never asked him to do too much that might expose his weaknesses. And he just does nothing but bitch about it.

Can someone please steer me towards the threads where Staylor doesn't post I want to enjoy Chiefs discussions

One would have to assume that in his mind he was Revis, and Bob Sutton was not playing him to his strengths. It was a weird deal, then he went to PITT for good money and looked like a 4th cb kind of guy.

It’s not my fault that you claimed there was “smoke” that Dotson was going too 10, and that “smoke” turned out to be a former teammate hyping up his buddy.

Do better pussy.

He could just never turn his head around to see how well he was treated.

You’re a miserable ****. You have some good points and worthwhile opinions but they are clouded by what a piece of shit you are.

BE better.

Everything that sucks about you is behavior based. It’s all a choice, and you simply choose every day to be as acidic and miserable and shitty as you can to anyone who dare cross your computer screen.

It isn’t impressive. There’s no battle to be won here. It’s just annoying and small.

Opinions on football aren't a feats of strength competition, nobody likes you

Oh look another pussy.

Pussies unite!

Cry more.

Triggered thread

(Yes yes I know I'm a pussy too)

Actually, you’re not. At least not in the mold of sapho and Kimosabi.

They’re insufferable pussies.

You’re a nice easy going pussy.

He's more of a simp. Always trying to give draft capital away for the sexy new thing.

<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/msKNSs8rmJ5m" width="480" height="357" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/day-subreddit-msKNSs8rmJ5m">via GIPHY</a></p>

<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/uM3n6atNyXAzcSMWkX" width="480" height="400" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-episode-8-the-office-tv-uM3n6atNyXAzcSMWkX">via GIPHY</a></p>

O.simp