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Coach 06-15-2014 10:46 PM

The thing is, and maybe it's just me, but this team is just almost an identical team as last year. We all have lamented about that awful May record (was it 8-20 or something?) last year and that most of us believed that if we had gone .500 on that May, the Royals could have been in the WC spot last year.

I know it is a long season, and anything can happen, but I think it's the repeat from last year's team, minus the horrendous May record, at least I hope that'd be the case....

KCCHIEFS27 06-15-2014 11:16 PM

I am excited to see these guys pumped up about a series against Detroit. Since being swept at home by Houston this team is 12-4.

KChiefs1 06-16-2014 10:50 AM

Pitching matchups:

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Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers
Monday, June 16, 7:08 PM EDT , Comerica Park

Jason Vargas, LHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. DET hitters
Career stats
Vargas stifled the Indians for most of eight innings, finally yielding three runs but earning his sixth win. He gave up six hits and no walks, but hit three batters for the first time in his career. Vargas has gone at least six in 12 of 14 starts.

Justin Verlander, RHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. KC hitters
Career stats
Verlander has been encouraged by his fastball lately, but his results haven't translated. After holding the White Sox to one run over five innings, he gave up six runs in the sixth, five of them after his second and final out.


Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers
Tuesday, June 17, 7:08 PM EDT , Comerica Park

Yordano Ventura, RHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. DET hitters
Career stats
Ventura had perhaps his best fastball command in a seven-inning win against the Indians on Wednesday. He issued no walks, and 61 of his 85 pitches were strikes. Although capable of 100-plus mph, Ventura stayed mostly in the 95-97 range.

Max Scherzer, RHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. KC hitters
Career stats
Scherzer threw his first career complete game in his last outing, a three-hit shutout of the White Sox last Thursday in Chicago with three walks and eight strikeouts. It broke a string of four outings without a quality start.


Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers
Wednesday, June 18, 1:08 PM EDT , Comerica Park

Jeremy Guthrie, RHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. DET hitters
Career stats
Guthrie ended an 11-start winless stretch his last time up despite putting together a worse outing than many of his starts during the drought. He struggled with command but managed 5 2/3 innings of two-run ball while striking out nine to four walks.

Drew Smyly, LHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. KC hitters
Career stats
Smyly is quietly finding his form again, having tossed back-to-back outings with six innings and one earned runs allowed, but paid for a hanging curveball with an Eduardo Escobar home run in Thursday's 2-0 loss to the Twins.


Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers
Thursday, June 19, 1:08 PM EDT , Comerica Park

Danny Duffy, LHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. DET hitters
Career stats
Following a dead-arm period at the end of May, Duffy has been on a roll in June. With seven scoreless innings Saturday vs. the White Sox, Duffy lowered his ERA in three June starts to 1.45 to go along with a 0.86 WHIP and 18 K's in 18 2/3 innings.

Anibal Sanchez, RHP
Last 3 starts
Regular season
Last 5 years vs. KC hitters
Career stats
Sanchez is unbeaten in six outings since his return from the disabled list in mid-May, the last five of them quality starts. He has allowed just 20 hits over 34 2/3 innings in those five starts, walking five and fanning 32.


KChiefs1 06-16-2014 11:13 AM

Detroit News:

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www.detroitnews.com
Red-hot Royals ready to take a swing at Tigers


Detroit — They were celebrating again, bounding across the field after a walk-off sacrifice fly. As dramatic finishes go, it wasn’t quite spine-tingling, but it was another glimpse at the Tigers we thought we knew.

They won a series by beating the Twins 4-3 on Sunday, and they did it with better starting pitching, a double-digit hit total and a couple gifts from Minnesota’s wobbly defense. The past three weeks have been excruciating for the Tigers, and the flaws haven’t disappeared while winning three of their past four.

But if they’re ready to stretch their legs and unleash their vaunted arms again, now would be a fine time to do it. At the risk of eliciting eye rolls, I’m anointing this four-game series starting tonight against the Royals as the first Big Showdown of the season. Silly to be declaring a showdown in June, I know, but this is the closest any division foe has gotten to the Tigers.

The Royals have been an alleged rising team for so long, they should legally change their name to the Rising Royals. Now here they are, winners of seven straight, just 1½ games behind the first-place Tigers (36-29). Kansas City has been mashing the ball and getting good pitching, a lethal combination the Tigers should’ve trademarked when they had a chance.

The early-season Good Tigers gave way to the Bad Tigers, and now there’s an inner battle for the team’s true identity, or something like that. As always, it will be decided by the starting pitchers, and after an awful stretch, they’re finding their way. Rick Porcello delivered the team’s fourth straight solid start, going seven innings against the Twins and buckling only once, in a three-run sixth.

“Well, we hope we’re getting back to what Detroit Tiger baseball is, which is the starting pitching going deep into games,” manager Brad Ausmus said. “We score runs, including some days with big offensive outputs, but the key is the pitching.”

Bullpen still struggling

Before anyone declares the end to any slump, we need to see a few more things. For instance, the smoldering bullpen has to replace its gas hose with a fire hose. Joe Nathan struggled again Sunday, giving up two singles before escaping a scoreless ninth on Ian Kinsler’s snare of a soft liner. The only reliever displaying consistent bite is Joba Chamberlain, and that has to change. Nathan wasn’t necessarily hit hard by the Twins, but he still doesn’t induce many swings and misses.

We also need to see if Justin Verlander can flash his ace capabilities again when he faces tough Royals lefty Jason Vargas tonight. All of the Tigers’ Big Three — Verlander, Max Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez — will pitch in the series, and they’d rather not have to win games by themselves.

The Tigers fared poorly with runners in scoring position Sunday and had to grind it out, capped by Torii Hunter’s sprint to the plate on J.D. Martinez’s flyball to medium-depth center field. It wasn’t majestic, nor was the Tigers’ 12-9 victory the night before, when the bullpen tried to blow it. But it’s amazing how a few breaks and quality starts can stabilize a team and lift the mood.

“I loved today’s game, a great win for us,” Porcello said. “We got off to an early lead, I gave it back, we were down, then we climbed back. It was a fantastic win all the way around.”

Porcello has somewhat mirrored the Tigers — good early, not so good recently, scrapping to be good again. Same with the offense. Victor Martinez and Miguel Cabrera still supply most of the production, although the Tigers are getting more and more from their rookie infielders, Nick Castellanos and Eugenio Suarez. The key is whether they can shake awake Austin Jackson (5-for-46 with runners in scoring position) and get Hunter back to driving the ball.

In the meantime, you ride it out, because prognostications to the contrary, there might be a summer-long race in the Central after all. The distance between the Tigers and the last-place White Sox is a mere 5½ games, and the division combatants are like crabs in a bucket, clawing over each other to get a snap at the Tigers.

Players downplay series

The Rising Royals are here, and not to make you nervous, but they have a nasty good bullpen with closer Greg Holland. We can have fun with the Big Showdown moniker, but don’t expect the Tigers to join in.

“You can spin it any way you want,” Ausmus said. “It’s certainly an important series, I don’t know if I’d call it a showdown. But it’s a big series against a team that’s played well lately. I’ll just leave it at that.”

If necessity is the mother of invention, the Tigers showed on Father’s Day that perseverance is the father of contention. The notion they’ll just pitch and mash their way to World Series contention has taken a hit, and now comes an opponent eager to take its swings.

“Every game we play in our division is very important, but it’s not the series of the year — AT ALL,” Hunter said. “If it was September, yes. Not in the middle of the season.”

OK, I get it. It’s a long way to September, and the Tigers expect showdowns then. Of course, they won’t have to worry as much if they take care of showdowns now.

Anyong Bluth 06-16-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10694075)
Thanks. Can you post the updated division records now like you did a few days ago?


One cause for concern is our peripherals. Our expected production is actually better than our actual for both offense and pitching. I.e., today we won 6-3 but stranded 6 while they stranded 13. Long term that's a concern.

I remember hearing that the Sox stranded 32 for the 3 game series- that was a bit unsettling.

alnorth 06-16-2014 12:54 PM

Here's an irritating headline.

Tigers Look To Recapture Comfortable Division Lead In Series With Royals

The story basically reads like "a month ago the Tigers had a comfortable lead, but don't worry, the Royals are coming to town so we're obviously gonna win this week"

Strongside 06-16-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10695185)
Here's an irritating headline.

Tigers Look To Recapture Comfortable Division Lead In Series With Royals

The story basically reads like "a month ago the Tigers had a comfortable lead, but don't worry, the Royals are coming to town so we're obviously gonna win this week"

Bullshit. We're coming for blood, mother****ers.

C3HIEF3S 06-16-2014 04:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisFickett">@ChrisFickett</a>: As <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> chase playoffs, GM Dayton Moore says he&#39;s confident team could spend more if needed <a href="http://t.co/WcYvzPZOdG">http://t.co/WcYvzPZOdG</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478662576952197120">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'd ****ing hope so..

WhitiE 06-16-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10695709)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisFickett">@ChrisFickett</a>: As <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> chase playoffs, GM Dayton Moore says he's confident team could spend more if needed <a href="http://t.co/WcYvzPZOdG">http://t.co/WcYvzPZOdG</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478662576952197120">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'd ****ing hope so..

Lol no shit man

BWillie 06-16-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10691815)
Absolutely correct.


And there isn't much on Tampa besides Longoria. There's also Loney, but he is a 1st baseman that hits for average and little power. We already have two of those so no on him.
There's no power hitter on that team either, Longoria leads them with 7.

The only hope to get another bat at the deadline is, as you mentioned tk, to hope some teams fall off and fall off hard.

If I were to bet, the team that you see right now is going to be what we see in August/September.

Um...Zobrist???

Don Corlemahomes 06-16-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10695759)
Um...Zobrist???

Shit, I hope not. I could see Dayton giving up Zimmer a la Shields for Myers.

C3HIEF3S 06-16-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10695759)
Um...Zobrist???

He is a decent player, but if DM were to trade for a bat I would want a serious power bat. Or at least someone that will significantly improve this team.

BWillie 06-16-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10695790)
He is a decent player, but if DM were to trade for a bat I would want a serious power bat. Or at least someone that will significantly improve this team.

Zobrist is a stud man. He's king of WAR. He can play multiple positions. That would probably mean being able to boot Moose to the curb. Surely Infante or Zobrist can play can rotate 3b accordingly. I wouldn't even care trading Zimmer for him quite honestly. Zimmer might not even do shit, especially with his injury history so far.

lewdog 06-16-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10696057)
Zobrist is a stud man. He's king of WAR. He can play multiple positions. That would probably mean being able to boot Moose to the curb. Surely Infante or Zobrist can play can rotate 3b accordingly. I wouldn't even care trading Zimmer for him quite honestly. Zimmer might not even do shit, especially with his injury history so far.

While I love Zobrist, and I choose him EVERY year in fantasy, he doesn't fit the Royals needs right now. If you are gonna trade for a bat, it has to be a power bat for this team. Don't care about average but just someone that can smash.

BWillie 06-16-2014 07:23 PM

You guys done bagging on my boy Billay?? The trek to .300 batting average is coming.

lewdog 06-16-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10696407)
You guys done bagging on my boy Billay?? The trek to .300 batting average is coming.

I've always defended Billy but it's hard to continue to do that on this board. It's the same argument over and over.

GloryDayz 06-16-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10696407)
You guys done bagging on my boy Billay?? The trek to .300 batting average is coming.

Trust us, the Fatty ONLY reacts to taunting and name calling, so we're providing a service.

BWillie 06-16-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10696426)
Trust us, the Fatty ONLY reacts to taunting and name calling, so we're providing a service.

ROFLROFLROFL

cabletech94 06-16-2014 07:54 PM

not to hate on aoki, but what RF's (power hitting) could GMDM be eyeing?


and we're not gonna end up with myers........

tk13 06-16-2014 10:16 PM

They were just talking about the Royals hitting turnaround on MLB Network. I only caught the end of it but they were talking about how one underrated benefit with Sveum is that he was a switch hitter. Harold Reynolds especially harped on it. Said it made a huge difference to have a hitting coach that could competently step into the cage and demonstrate the point he was trying to make for hitters on both sides of the plate.

I don't know if that makes a huge difference or not, but it was an interesting discussion.

Prison Bitch 06-16-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10696407)
You guys done bagging on my boy Billay?? The trek to .300 batting average is coming.

No, not done by a longshot. He's been awful this year and he's still in negative WAR territory. Hopefully he's turning back into what he's been his career, a solid 5-hitter, but we'll need more than a week.

Shogun 06-16-2014 10:59 PM

Trade the farm for Stanton pls

KChiefs1 06-16-2014 11:27 PM

CBS SPORTS:

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CBSSports.com

KANSAS CITY AT DETROIT
Time: 07:08 P.M. EST
Venue: Comerica Park

The Kansas City Royals added to the woes of one Detroit Tigers star right-hander in their eighth straight win.

Now they face a daunting task against another one as they attempt to gain the AL Central lead.

The Tigers have won Max Scherzer's last 13 overall home starts heading into Tuesday night's matchup with first place on the line.

Kansas City (37-32) scored seven times against struggling Justin Verlander in Monday's 11-8 victory in the opener of this four-game series. The Royals, who had been 0-5 against Detroit this year, are enjoying their longest win streak since a nine-game run July 23-Aug. 1.

The Royals have won 11 of 13 since trailing the Tigers (36-30) by 6 1/2 games at the start of the month to pull within one-half game of the division lead.

"We got on a nice little run here and we've made up some ground," manager Ned Yost said.

Winning Tuesday doesn't figure to be easy since Scherzer (8-2, 3.05 ERA) is 10-0 with a 2.38 ERA in his last 13 home outings, including one in the postseason.

The Tigers have also won Scherzer's last nine starts against the Royals, with the University of Missouri product going 5-0 with a 2.53 ERA. Detroit has captured 28 of his last 31 regular-season outings at Comerica Park.

While Alex Gordon is 7 for 18 (.389) with four extra-base hits against Scherzer since the start of 2012, most Royals regulars have struggled against him in that span. Lorenzo Cain is hitless in 12 at-bats, Eric Hosmer is 3 for 20 and Mike Moustakas 3 for 18 as the three have combined for 19 strikeouts.

The reigning AL Cy Young Award winner finally notched the first complete game of his career by striking out eight in a three-hitter Thursday in a 4-0 win over the Chicago White Sox. He has 106 strikeouts to rank sixth in baseball.

"It's awesome," he said. "I finally got the monkey off my back."

Scherzer's opponent will be Yordano Ventura (4-5, 3.20), who has posted consecutive wins for the first time. Ventura yielded one run over seven innings with no walks last Wednesday in a 4-1 victory over Cleveland.

"He had probably one of his best games of the year, command-wise, with his fastball," Yost told the Royals' official website.

The 23-year-old right-hander is known for a fastball that has been clocked over 100 mph heading into his first matchup with Miguel Cabrera and the Tigers.

Billy Butler went 2 for 4 with three RBIs and former Detroit infielder Omar Infante drove in four runs Monday. Butler is 10 for 22 with 10 RBIs over his last six games.

Both teams lost a player to cramps Monday.

Royals catcher Salvador Perez was replaced in the seventh by Brett Hayes because of cramps in both calves but figures to be OK.

"He's fine," Yost said. "They made him drink a bunch of fluids and gave him an IV."

Tigers outfielder Torii Hunter left in the fourth with a cramp in his right hamstring. Hunter was replaced by J.D. Martinez, who hit his second career grand slam.

"It's not a strain," manager Brad Ausmus insisted.

Detroit slugger Victor Martinez is 14 for 32 during an eight-game hitting streak against Kansas City.


TV SCHEDULE
National: MLB Regional
Away: FOX Sports Kansas City
Home: FOX Sports Detroit

STANDINGS
TEAM STANDINGS W L PCT. GB L 10 STRK
Kansas City 2nd AL Central 37 32 .536 ½ 9-1 W 8
Detroit 1st AL Central 36 30 .545 - 5-5 L 1




INJURIES
KANSAS CITY
PLAYER INJURY
B. Chen Back
L. Hochevar Elbow
S. Perez Calf
D. Valencia Hand, wrist

DETROIT
PLAYER INJURY
A. Dirks Back
T. Hunter Hamstring
J. Iglesias Shin
I. Krol Shoulder
L. Putkonen Elbow
B. Rondon Elbow

SERIES GAME LOG
DATE AT RESULT/TIME WINNER LOSER
Mar 31 DET DET 4-3 Nathan Davis
Apr 2 DET DET 2-1 Alburquerque Collins
Apr 3 DET PPD
May 2 KC DET 8-2 Porcello Shields
May 3 KC DET 9-2 Smyly Duffy
May 4 KC DET 9-4 Verlander Vargas
Jun 16 DET KC 11-8 Vargas Verlander
Jun 17 DET 7:08 PM EDT
Jun 18 DET 1:08 PM EDT
Jun 19 DET 1:08 PM EDT
Jul 10 KC 8:10 PM EDT
Jul 11 KC 8:10 PM EDT
Jul 12 KC 7:10 PM EDT
Jul 13 KC 2:10 PM EDT
Sep 8 DET 4:08 PM EDT
Sep 9 DET 7:08 PM EDT
Sep 10 DET 7:08 PM EDT
Sep 19 KC 8:10 PM EDT
Sep 20 KC 7:10 PM EDT
Sep 21 KC 2:10 PM EDT




Chiefspants 06-17-2014 12:55 AM

It's possible he's still bouncing back from his offseason surgery, but you have to wonder how Leyland's habit of giving Verlander 120+ pitches a start is going to affect the latter part of the pitcher's career.

A latter part that, until 2019, belongs to the Tigers.

TambaBerry 06-17-2014 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10697081)
Trade the farm for Stanton pls

This all day, I don't even care who we give up for him.

Chiefspants 06-17-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10697273)
This all day, I don't even care who we give up for him.

We didn't have enough to make that work in 2013 even if we threw in Yordano. Without Ventura we simply don't come close to the near ready ML talent to make the trade work now. Also, if Stanton were to come on the market, several teams could outbid us without any problem.

As Duncan suggested, Marlon Byrd is far more realistic, feasible and less sexy candidate for what we have to offer.

TambaBerry 06-17-2014 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10697289)
We didn't have enough to make that work in 2013 even if we threw in Yordano. Without Ventura we simply don't come close to the near ready ML talent to make the trade work now. Also, if Stanton were to come on the market, several teams could outbid us without any problem.

As Duncan suggested, Marlon Byrd is far more realistic, feasible and less sexy candidate for what we have to offer.

Oh I know it's a pipedream at best

duncan_idaho 06-17-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10697295)
Oh I know it's a pipedream at best

Yeah, it is.

I think the biggest thing is that the Marlins really have little incentive to trade him. He's not crazily expensive. They actually have quite a bit of young talent (Christian Yelich, Jose Fernandez, Nate Eovaldi, Jacob Turner, Marcell Ozuna, Andrew Heaney) and could make a run with it in the next year or two, if Fernandez comes back healthy.

Archie F. Swin 06-17-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10697321)
Yeah, it is.

I think the biggest thing is that the Marlins really have little incentive to trade him. He's not crazily expensive. They actually have quite a bit of young talent (Christian Yelich, Jose Fernandez, Nate Eovaldi, Jacob Turner, Marcell Ozuna, Andrew Heaney) and could make a run with it in the next year or two, if Fernandez comes back healthy.


So does GMDM shop for a bat or an arm at the deadline?

seaofred 06-17-2014 07:50 AM

Was Dozier promoted to AA?

WhawhaWhat 06-17-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10697368)
Was Dozier promoted to AA?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Couldn&#39;t be more proud of my little brother getting moved up to AA today! Much deserved and excited to see what this next step brings!</p>&mdash; Devin Dozier (@dozierredraider) <a href="https://twitter.com/dozierredraider/statuses/478658050945867776">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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DeepSouth 06-17-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10697371)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Couldn't be more proud of my little brother getting moved up to AA today! Much deserved and excited to see what this next step brings!</p>&mdash; Devin Dozier (@dozierredraider) <a href="https://twitter.com/dozierredraider/statuses/478658050945867776">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Isn't there a good 3rd base prospect already at AA? Duncan ???

penbrook 06-17-2014 07:56 AM

Since start of play on 5/29, @Royals are tied with @Athletics for most runs in AL (93). Entering that day, KC was last in AL in runs scored.

penbrook 06-17-2014 07:57 AM

By the way Dale Sveum was hired as the new hitting coach on May 29.

penbrook 06-17-2014 07:58 AM

This isn't a coincidence. Dale Sveum has literally by himself turned the Royals team around.

seaofred 06-17-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10697371)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Couldn't be more proud of my little brother getting moved up to AA today! Much deserved and excited to see what this next step brings!</p>&mdash; Devin Dozier (@dozierredraider) <a href="https://twitter.com/dozierredraider/statuses/478658050945867776">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thanks.

kcchiefsus 06-17-2014 08:07 AM

I'm certainly no expert on baseball but it seems to me like in most situations a hitting coach wouldn't make this big of a difference. Could it perhaps be that the previous coach just had everybody doing something funky with their swing, stance, etc. that was messing with them? So possibly Sveum has them back to doing what they're comfortable with?

I have absolutely no clue, just throwing something out there.

duncan_idaho 06-17-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10697375)
Isn't there a good 3rd base prospect already at AA? Duncan ???

Cheslor Cuthbert.

He's below Dozier on the organizational chart at this point, though. And he's not a lock to stick at 3B. He's actually like a year younger than Dozier if I recall correctly.

It makes sense to move Dozier, though. He's an advanced college guy with a really strong approach who is slugging over .500 in the Carolina league since May 1. His really slow start in April has been completely overcome, it appears.

Cuthbert is a guy who might have to move to 1B/LF/RF eventually. They might be panning to do that now.

They also can split time between the two guys at 3B and DH, if necessary. I don't think Cuthbert is ready for a promotion to Omaha (He has a .700ish OPS at NWA, that's driven in large part by his OBP).

BigCatDaddy 06-17-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10697399)
I'm certainly no expert on baseball but it seems to me like in most situations a hitting coach wouldn't make this big of a difference. Could it perhaps be that the previous coach just had everybody doing something funky with their swing, stance, etc. that was messing with them? So possibly Sveum has them back to doing what they're comfortable with?

I have absolutely no clue, just throwing something out there.

If anything it would have to do with approach. Working counts, looking for pitches in a certain area, etc.... I have noticed Infante basically refusing to swing at any first pitch lately to the point he's stepping back out of the box as the pitch is thrown. I don't recall him doing that before.

DeepSouth 06-17-2014 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10697400)
Cheslor Cuthbert.

He's below Dozier on the organizational chart at this point, though. And he's not a lock to stick at 3B. He's actually like a year younger than Dozier if I recall correctly.

It makes sense to move Dozier, though. He's an advanced college guy with a really strong approach who is slugging over .500 in the Carolina league since May 1. His really slow start in April has been completely overcome, it appears.

Cuthbert is a guy who might have to move to 1B/LF/RF eventually. They might be panning to do that now.

They also can split time between the two guys at 3B and DH, if necessary. I don't think Cuthbert is ready for a promotion to Omaha (He has a .700ish OPS at NWA, that's driven in large part by his OBP).

Do you think one of those two could be a September call-up?

duncan_idaho 06-17-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10697407)
Do you think one of those two could be a September call-up?

Dozier would need to absolutely destroy the ball at NWA, force his way to Omaha, and keep it up there.

It's possible but unlikely.

The biggest thing working in Dozier's favor is that he has an EXTREMELY advanced approach. Guys like that can sometimes move faster than others.

duncan_idaho 06-17-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10697399)
I'm certainly no expert on baseball but it seems to me like in most situations a hitting coach wouldn't make this big of a difference. Could it perhaps be that the previous coach just had everybody doing something funky with their swing, stance, etc. that was messing with them? So possibly Sveum has them back to doing what they're comfortable with?

I have absolutely no clue, just throwing something out there.

From what I've been told, it had more to do with Grifol being in over his head than anything else. He's all about the swing and lower half feeling good and doesn't focus as much on approach or prep.

Sveum's philosophy is quite a bit different. Head and hands (a more classic focus for hitting) and preps better.

DeepSouth 06-17-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10697415)
Dozier would need to absolutely destroy the ball at NWA, force his way to Omaha, and keep it up there.

It's possible but unlikely.

The biggest thing working in Dozier's favor is that he has an EXTREMELY advanced approach. Guys like that can sometimes move faster than others.

So, he could feasibly replace Moose if not sometime in 2015 then definitely in 2016?

duncan_idaho 06-17-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10697429)
So, he could feasibly replace Moose if not sometime in 2015 then definitely in 2016?

Promoting him to NWA now is a move that attempts to get him ready for at least a mid-season callup in 2015, to me.

Also means they're probably not looking at a big splashy move like bringing in Adrian Beltre to handle 3B.

alnorth 06-17-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10697399)
I'm certainly no expert on baseball but it seems to me like in most situations a hitting coach wouldn't make this big of a difference. Could it perhaps be that the previous coach just had everybody doing something funky with their swing, stance, etc. that was messing with them? So possibly Sveum has them back to doing what they're comfortable with?

I have absolutely no clue, just throwing something out there.

You are right that normally a hitting coach does not make much of a difference and they are usually convenient scapegoats. The only way they might make a difference is if they are doing something really bizarre to screw up the players.

Its difficult to know if that was the case here, because baseball teams are not going to throw guys under the bus even if they privately think he was a terrible coach and they had to get rid of him. From what little information we have been able to get though, Grifol's approach to teaching hitting was apparently really odd.

Deberg_1990 06-17-2014 09:25 AM

Dale Sveum, the man, the myth, the legend.....
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1moreTRich 06-17-2014 11:11 AM

If anyone is planning on going to the game on Saturday, they are giving away KC/WSU hats. Unfortunately I have a wedding the same day and can't go. I would be willing to purchase a hat or two off someone if the opportunity presented itself. Just thought I would throw it out there.

SPchief 06-17-2014 01:33 PM

Donnie Joseph down Lois Coleman back up

WhawhaWhat 06-17-2014 02:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Getz is here in the Royals clubhouse.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478994118367256578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Shogun 06-17-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10698182)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Getz is here in the Royals clubhouse.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478994118367256578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Were doomed.

Shogun 06-17-2014 02:20 PM

However, perhaps tonight we will hit for MOAR MOAR POWER?

ChiefsCountry 06-17-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10698182)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Getz is here in the Royals clubhouse.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478994118367256578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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MOAR Getz wife please.

Dartgod 06-17-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10698182)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Getz is here in the Royals clubhouse.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478994118367256578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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His career line against Scherzer:

.357/.438/.429

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...atter=getzch01

BlackHelicopters 06-17-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10698221)
MOAR Getz wife please.

Definitely

CaliforniaChief 06-17-2014 02:36 PM

Is Getz actually there for playing purposes, or to give an inspirational speech or what? Yikes. Is Jason Kendall talking to Salvy about going the other way too?

alnorth 06-17-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10698238)
Is Getz actually there for playing purposes, or to give an inspirational speech or what? Yikes. Is Jason Kendall talking to Salvy about going the other way too?

He retired, so I don't know whats going on. Does he live in Detroit?

CaliforniaChief 06-17-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10698241)
He retired, so I don't know whats going on. Does he live in Detroit?

He is from there, so that's probably the deal.

cmh6476 06-17-2014 02:46 PM

I was in Detroit a few years back for a conference, stopped in a bar and was chatting with the bartender about the Royals and Tigs. He inconspicuously asked us about Getz, and it dawned on the friend I was with that he knew him being from Detroit and all. Turns out he played with Getz and Prince Fielder as they were both coming up in the Detroit area around the same time. Luckily we didn't say anything too harsh about Getzy as this bartender was actually in his wedding and took a trip to Chicago when the guy was first called up. He did have a pretty good story about Prince being a dickhead, and the team putting icy hot in his jock strap.

WhawhaWhat 06-17-2014 02:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In the minor leagues, Ned Yost hung pictures of Dusty Rhodes in his locker. When he coached in Atlanta, they became friends.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/479000459953176578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dick Kaegel: &quot;Why does anybody watch that crap?&quot; Ned Yost: &quot;It&#39;s entertaining.&quot; Me: &quot;You like wrestling?&quot; Yost: &quot;Love it.&quot; Good times.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/479002752391987200">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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ChiefsCountry 06-17-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10698228)
Definitely

http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/20...nicky-getz.jpg

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BlackHelicopters 06-17-2014 03:04 PM

Moar

BWillie 06-17-2014 03:14 PM

So the Legendary Chris Getz is in the royals clubhouse today? Wow. No way we lose this one tonight, not with Getz's inspiration and grit lingering. Game over. Might as well not even come Tigers fans.

TLO 06-17-2014 03:23 PM

Getz is a lucky, lucky man.

KChiefs1 06-17-2014 05:55 PM

I just watched the reigning Cy Young winner throw 50+ pitches in an inning & the Royals scored 7 runs. I can't remember feeling like this in years.

Prison Bitch 06-17-2014 06:19 PM

Finnegan pitching for tcu on ESPN now

C3HIEF3S 06-17-2014 08:26 PM

Tonight, we celebrate.

Tomorrow we go 1.5 games ahead of the Kitties.

ChiefsCountry 06-17-2014 08:27 PM

I think I need to post MOAR photos of Gretz's wife.

DeepSouth 06-17-2014 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch View Post
So what if they do? They're 10 up on us already. Does anyone actually think we're going to be 11 games better than them the rest of the way? With our slapdick offense? Almost zero chance.

If it was the Twins or White Sox off to a great start, no biggie. But Detroit has been better for years and every intelligent person thought they'd be again too. It's like if the Broncos get off to a 5-0 start next year. Different than if the Faders do.

PB, I still have faith.

-King- 06-17-2014 08:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So, uh what&#39;s my move if I run into Dayton at the K this weekend? Is &quot;kneel before him and kiss his ring&quot; the proper way to beg forgiveness?</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/statuses/479073171933376512">June 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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LMAO

C3HIEF3S 06-17-2014 09:00 PM

Shields and Iwakuma will be the pitching match up Friday when the Royals return home.
I want to see 40k there.

cmh6476 06-17-2014 09:03 PM

sorry I will be at avett bros

okcchief 06-17-2014 09:05 PM

I'm heading home from the East Coast Friday morning. It's going to take a lot of driving Friday but I'm going to do my best to make the Saturday afternoon game.

ROYC75 06-17-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10699436)
I think I need to post MOAR photos of Gretz's wife.

Never saw her.......:hmmm:

alnorth 06-17-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10699544)
Shields and Iwakuma will be the pitching match up Friday when the Royals return home.
I want to see 40k there.

I'll be there on Sunday and Monday

Deberg_1990 06-17-2014 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10699568)
Never saw her.......:hmmm:

She was on Amazing Race with Dejesus wife, whose also no slouch.
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SPchief 06-17-2014 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10699544)
Shields and Iwakuma will be the pitching match up Friday when the Royals return home.
I want to see 40k there.

Umm, I think the stadium only holds 37k. And I'll be there saturday and monday

Prison Bitch 06-17-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10699440)
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch View Post
So what if they do? They're 10 up on us already. Does anyone actually think we're going to be 11 games better than them the rest of the way? With our slapdick offense? Almost zero chance.

If it was the Twins or White Sox off to a great start, no biggie. But Detroit has been better for years and every intelligent person thought they'd be again too. It's like if the Broncos get off to a 5-0 start next year. Different than if the Faders do.

PB, I still have faith.

I'm happy today but ill stick to Detroit winning the division and I bet they do by 4+ games. The Royals peripherals are not very impressive and since I believe in stats, I am positive they'll hold long term. But I'm hoping I'm wrong!


Also I said 79 wins this year so I also hope in wrong there.

CaliforniaChief 06-17-2014 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10699436)
I think I need to post MOAR photos of Gretz's wife.

I have a feeling Gretz's wife is less of a looker than Getz's, but hey, NTTAWWT.

Prison Bitch 06-17-2014 09:46 PM

Finnegan looks like a total beast. He's got a bit of a crouched delivery and he was firing 94/95 tonight with a big sweeping breaker a la Sale. (And no, I'm not comparing him to Sale outside that pitch). Also both VA and TCU brought in relievers firing 95 gas. The VA guy wen just after Finnegan and the tcu guy is eligible next year. I think these guys would get MLB hitters out right now, at least with some regularity

I hate HS pitchers. The only one that worked out for us since 1990 was Zack. Maybe Duffy will follow.

Bowser 06-17-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10698182)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Getz is here in the Royals clubhouse.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/478994118367256578">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10698194)
Were doomed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10698196)
However, perhaps tonight we will hit for MOAR MOAR POWER?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10698326)
So the Legendary Chris Getz is in the royals clubhouse today? Wow. No way we lose this one tonight, not with Getz's inspiration and grit lingering. Game over. Might as well not even come Tigers fans.

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