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smithandrew051 02-15-2025 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17969820)
Jackson has a much higher ceiling than all the rest and I don't see his floor being too much lower in a worst case scenario. Humphries and Stanley are almost definitely missing games with injury and Robinson just isn't very good regardless.
Pretty much where I’m at.

I think he opens the draft up, because the Chiefs don’t have to draft a tackle early if the board doesn’t fall right.

He at a minimum allows the Chiefs to kick the can down the road a bit. Kingsley can play RG and have time to develop behind Jackson.

Palangi 02-15-2025 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17969820)
Jackson has a much higher ceiling than all the rest and I don't see his floor being too much lower in a worst case scenario. Humphries and Stanley are almost definitely missing games with injury and Robinson just isn't very good regardless.
Jackson himself is very average himself. I don’t think there is much difference in him and Robinson. In fact Robinson has been asked to do more of what Reid expects than Jackson has. Jackson was very sheltered in LA last year, making his numbers a false hope high level. You’ll be paying him 20+ million a year for a very average tackle. And off you think Taylor drives people here crazy, this guy will start a mutiny.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 12:05 PM
You could have lined up Chase and Jefferson out wide and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference in that game. It was that bad of a performance by both the OL and Mahomes.

smithandrew051 02-15-2025 12:07 PM
There’s no perfect option here.

Chiefs just need to mitigate the risk as best they can.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17969836)
Jackson himself is very average himself. I don’t think there is much difference in him and Robinson. In fact Robinson has been asked to do more of what Reid expects than Jackson has. Jackson was very sheltered in LA last year, making his numbers a false hope high level. You’ll be paying him 20+ million a year for a very average tackle. And off you think Taylor drives people here crazy, this guy will start a mutiny.
Robinson gave up 21 pressures in the last 2 games of the season. Jackson gave up 22 all season. No, they are not anywhere near equivalent. Jackson is young and has plenty of room to develop even further into a very good LT. Cam Robinson is near 30 and at best provides you a baseline of mediocre LT play for top pay, and even that is being generous.

New World Order 02-15-2025 12:10 PM
If Aleric Jackson is available it makes just too much sense.

He's young, he's good, Veach will get him. Probably will be an overpay but that's fine.

Probably wouldn't expect much of anything else in FA. Probably go WR in rounds 1 or 2 again. We could attack offense with our higher picks this draft. The defense should be top 10 again.

I do think someone like Justin Simmons would be good on a cheap 1 year deal to replace Reid. That would be my plan of attack.

ChiefsHawk 02-15-2025 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17969836)
Jackson himself is very average himself. I don’t think there is much difference in him and Robinson. In fact Robinson has been asked to do more of what Reid expects than Jackson has. Jackson was very sheltered in LA last year, making his numbers a false hope high level. You’ll be paying him 20+ million a year for a very average tackle. And off you think Taylor drives people here crazy, this guy will start a mutiny.
So theyre the same player cept Jackson is just getting into his prime.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 12:35 PM
Aleric Jackson diagnosed with blood clots and placed on season ending Injured Reserve… in 2022.

The Chiefs took a chance with Trey Smith with blood clots and that was successful… but still a risk to consider.

RunKC 02-15-2025 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969816)
It gets to a point where all these veteran options leave much to be desired and the draft is apparently less than at the position that you start to ask, what if they just went WR/TE/RB with two of their first picks (because they are BPA), and just say **** you you can’t cover all our guys.

Like IDK, but it seems we are headed toward another risk at the LT position, not because they want to, but because there aren’t enough supply. If you’re going to be stuck with a question mark there no matter what, might as well stress defenses any other way you can.

If I can get the ball out in the hands of Rice/Worthy/insert explosive RB+WR who are also added to the roster, that’s tough to contend with especially when you consider no matter what we should be better at LT next year.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking lately. Josh Conerly is the only possible LT prospect that will be available and his lack of strength and inconsistent technique feels like he’d be just as much of a project as Kingsley and I don’t want to waste another high pick on that again.

Right now I’d strongly consider trading up for Coleston Loveland (assuming that’s even possible) or taking TreVeyon Henderson.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17969868)
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking lately. Josh Conerly is the only possible LT prospect that will be available and his lack of strength and inconsistent technique feels like he’d be just as much of a project as Kingsley and I don’t want to waste another high pick on that again.

Right now I’d strongly consider trading up for Coleston Loveland (assuming that’s even possible) or taking TreVeyon Henderson.
Yeah I don’t want any part of a rookie LT that isn’t much, much more polished than Kingsley was.

Everyone would probably agree that the best outcome is drafting a 1st round LT that goes on to be the next Eric Fisher +. That’s also the least likely outcome based on the info we have so far.

There’s worse ideas than grabbing a 2-3 year stop gap and attacking skill positions or defense in the draft for a team to try to win the SB next season. Gibbs and LaPorta were tremendous picks for Detroit.

Dunerdr 02-15-2025 12:54 PM
Still in the sign Humphries and keep polishing Kingsley camp. None of the FA options are much better than Humphries. He’ll likely be cheaper. And we need a long term in house solution ala Kingsley. He’s got the size speed and agility required. Just raw af.

MahomesMagic 02-15-2025 12:56 PM
I wonder where the Chiefs think Kingsley is.


They know if he actually was making real progress or not.

Palangi 02-15-2025 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17969843)
Robinson gave up 21 pressures in the last 2 games of the season. Jackson gave up 22 all season. No, they are not anywhere near equivalent. Jackson is young and has plenty of room to develop even further into a very good LT. Cam Robinson is near 30 and at best provides you a baseline of mediocre LT play for top pay, and even that is being generous.
But scheme plays into those numbers. As well as QB. Stafford gets the ball out quicker than Darnold. And McKvay did a lot to cover Jackson. That won’t be the same here.

Again off you think Taylor making 20 million infuriates people here. This dude making 20 million would start a riot

Palangi 02-15-2025 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17969861)
So theyre the same player cept Jackson is just getting into his prime.
Off that’s what you want to take from everything. Seems a bit short sighted though

Palangi 02-15-2025 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17969883)
Still in the sign Humphries and keep polishing Kingsley camp. None of the FA options are much better than Humphries. He’ll likely be cheaper. And we need a long term in house solution ala Kingsley. He’s got the size speed and agility required. Just raw af.
I don’t mind this. But I would draft Ersary or Belton to compete with Kingsley too.


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