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Boxer_Chief 02-15-2025 09:54 AM

Whatever it may be I have 100% confidence in breach to fix this hole. He has a plan and will execute it come hell or high water. I’m not that concerned at this point.

duncan_idaho 02-15-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17969724)
Yep. All of the potential FAs have major warts. Jackson is generally available but is along those OBJ lines. Stanley has injury issues. Robinson is a worse version of Jackson. Moore is a lot like OBJ and Jackson in that he's going to lose to speed and can't handle Garrett. Wills is horrendous. Honestly, I like Humphries more than all but Stanley but like Stanley has injury issues.

Getting a long-term, completely viable option is probably not going to happen but it might band-aid the position enough. In the end, Veach is going to have to keep swinging for our own LT.


I still think it’s possible Wills can be a hit with a fresh start.

If I’m doing the number game thing, finding a way to get Humphries AND Wills is something I’m interested in. That gives you several guys to throw at LT and plenty of reason to think at least one will work at RG.

Has Wills ever been given a shot at arr in the NFL? He played exclusively there in college. Maybe he’s one of those dudes who can’t flip his footwork or punch.

Jackson looks like a better athlete than Orlando Brown, when I’ve seen him play. But maybe some of that is the system.

Still, they thought they could win with Brown/account for his shortcomings and still operate a great offense. So I could see them being willing to do that again …

ChiefsHawk 02-15-2025 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17967401)
A summary of some our FA options at LT...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> will probably look to fix their left tackle woes during free agency.<br><br>Here is a look at some of the options set to be available… �� <a href="https://t.co/VK2hThQ67r">pic.twitter.com/VK2hThQ67r</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1890033505289269420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is proof Jackson is by far the best option. He'd easily be Mahomes best LT hes ever had. Shocking everyone isn't excited about this possibilty.

RunKC 02-15-2025 10:17 AM

Matt Miller-“with the top 6 tackle prospects in this class, I’ve had a scout say ‘yeah they might be a Guard’”

Even Matt Miller said he’d go the veteran route if he was Veach.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17969738)
This is proof Jackson is by far the best option. He'd easily be Mahomes best LT hes ever had. Shocking everyone isn't excited about this possibilty.

It’s a huge projection to say that.

He’s never been asked to do near as hard of a job as Andy asks of his tackles. It could be fine, it could be disaster.

chiefzilla1501 02-15-2025 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 17969697)
Sign Stanley and Humphries as the backup in case of injury. It just has to be done, it’s imperative to fix that gaping hole. Then Kingsley can compete with humphries for backup role.

I don’t think it’s realistic that humphries would sign on to be a backup, let alone be cool with backup money. I do think he’d be open to signing with us to be a starter either with starter money or a short term prove it deal.

Palangi 02-15-2025 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969662)
Took a look at this Puka Nacua highlight just to see what I could glean from Jackson at LT: https://youtu.be/UUnC2K1tpqk?si=xPCSci06J5r79Q6e

… and I’d need to watch a lot more in totality to be fair, but some of my reservations I think are confirmed. First, McVay does such a good job helping his tackles out and Andy should take notes especially now that are offense is built to run through WRs and not the TE.

Secondly, you’re hard pressed to find reps in there where he’s true vertical setting. Which is what Andy asks of his tackles forever now.

So you’re doing a lot of projecting and hoping it would seem if you bring a guy like that on board. I guess it’s pretty comparable to Orlando Brown in that way.

Good find. I agree I’m not a fan of Jackson. The price tag for him is very scary

OKchiefs 02-15-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969753)
It’s a huge projection to say that.

He’s never been asked to do near as hard of a job as Andy asks of his tackles. It could be fine, it could be disaster.

How about this for a possible solution - Andy Reid should maybe quit being so ****ing stubborn for a change and design the offense in 2025 around not asking the OTs to do so much with such little help? I'm fully on board with upgrading at LT as I've made it well known on here, but Jesus Christ could their coaches at least help them to not look so bad? I can't fully blame the OL either when most coaches who have an OL that can't hold up in pass blocking would lean on the run game to keep the DL honest. We simply refuse to do that, even well before the Super Bowl. I know we didn't quite have the RB talent this year, well go ahead and finally invest in some decent talent there.

It seems like they sometimes try to make it as difficult as possible for themselves.

staylor26 02-15-2025 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17969769)
How about this for a possible solution - Andy Reid should maybe quit being so ****ing stubborn for a change and design the offense in 2025 around not asking the OTs to do so much with such little help? I'm fully on board with upgrading at LT as I've made it well known on here, but Jesus Christ could their coaches at least help them to not look so bad? I can't fully blame the OL either when most coaches who have an OL that can't hold up in pass blocking would lean on the run game to keep the DL honest. We simply refuse to do that, even well before the Super Bowl. I know we didn't quite have the RB talent this year, well go ahead and finally invest in some decent talent there.

It seems like they sometimes try to make it as difficult as possible for themselves.

Boy, you sure have posted more in the last week than you have in the last 3 ****ing years. It's almost as if you've just been waiting for the opportunity to bitch non-stop.

SHOWTIME 02-15-2025 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17969738)
This is proof Jackson is by far the best option. He'd easily be Mahomes best LT hes ever had. Shocking everyone isn't excited about this possibilty.

because it hasn't happened yet. There is a chance he could get tagged or bet too much out of our price range. Once the Chiefs sign him, then we can get excited.

OKchiefs 02-15-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17969785)
Boy, you sure have posted more in the last week than you have in the last 3 ****ing years. It's almost as if you've just been waiting for the opportunity to bitch non-stop.

It's the offseason, I don't have games to watch. Sorry, I think the SB embarassment is deserving of some significant scrutiny, not that anything I say actually matters of course.

I'm giving them the benefit of admitting it is going to be incredibly difficult to address OT, is it too much to ask that if they cannot adequately improve OT to at least alter the offensive system to make it easier on the OTs? I mean, it's been discussed in depth on here that they seemingly gave little to no help to Suamataia and then turned around and gave more help to Morris and others when they played. I'm no expert on this at all, but I've seen mention that their vertical set usage has made it more difficult at times and Taylor has often telegraphed that it's a pass play. It sure seems like there is a lot of wiggle room from coaching and design of the offense to make life easier on the players. Am I wrong?

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969753)
It’s a huge projection to say that.

He’s never been asked to do near as hard of a job as Andy asks of his tackles. It could be fine, it could be disaster.

I'd much rather take my chances with him than a known below average asset like Robinson or broken down vets in the twilight of their careers like Humphries or Stanley.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17969802)
I'd much rather take my chances with him than a known below average asset like Robinson or broken down vets in the twilight of their careers like Humphries or Stanley.

It gets to a point where all these veteran options leave much to be desired and the draft is apparently less than at the position that you start to ask, what if they just went WR/TE/RB with two of their first picks (because they are BPA), and just say **** you you can’t cover all our guys.

Like IDK, but it seems we are headed toward another risk at the LT position, not because they want to, but because there aren’t enough supply. If you’re going to be stuck with a question mark there no matter what, might as well stress defenses any other way you can.

If I can get the ball out in the hands of Rice/Worthy/insert explosive RB+WR who are also added to the roster, that’s tough to contend with especially when you consider no matter what we should be better at LT next year.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 11:50 AM

Jackson has a much higher ceiling than all the rest and I don't see his floor being too much lower in a worst case scenario. Humphries and Stanley are almost definitely missing games with injury and Robinson just isn't very good regardless.

staylor26 02-15-2025 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969816)
It gets to a point where all these veteran options leave much to be desired and the draft is apparently less than at the position that you start to ask, what if they just went WR/TE/RB with two of their first picks (because they are BPA), and just say **** you you can’t cover all our guys.

Like IDK, but it seems we are headed toward another risk at the LT position, not because they want to, but because there aren’t enough supply. If you’re going to be stuck with a question mark there no matter what, might as well stress defenses any other way you can.

If I can get the ball out in the hands of Rice/Worthy/insert explosive RB+WR who are also added to the roster, that’s tough to contend with especially when you consider no matter what we should be better at LT next year.

This is honestly how I've been feeling too. Just think how much Rice alone helps in the SB. They just didn't have that easy button, and that hurt as much as the OL. Now imagine if they had a stud RB they could lean on too. If they can just be adequate there, with more weapons, the offense will be back to elite.


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