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Dorsey gone? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=308394)

I think ChUNT can run his business as he pleases.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12928359)

No first round pick next year and the new GM has to like Mahomes. I don't think the kid is for everyone.

I don't care for the structure where the HC and GM report directly to Hunt.

But there's a lot of front office guys that love Mahomes. I think having an established coach like Reid also helps.

I don't think the first round pick is going to be any big deal for a guy they are interested in. Depth of roster is the biggest thing.

I don't love it either, but this is the new NFL. Ultimately every management decision is going to be run through Clark.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12928359)

No first round pick next year and the new GM has to like Mahomes. I don't think the kid is for everyone.

I'd put up with him to be paid a million or so a year. Getting my resume ready now.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12928076)

Don't give a **** about the dead money. There is not one team that has come close to drafting as well as the Chiefs or finding value in FA and that is the lifeblood of this league.

3 all pro's-Kelce, Hill, Peters
1 double digit sack artist-Ford
2 really good line players-Morse/Ford

Eric Berry and Justin Houston aren't things Dorsey should be blamed for. Houston bet on himself and got 20+ sacks. Berry isn't getting paid much more than he would have been if he got paid a year prior.

Here's a newsflash: the roster is STACKED. Of course the cap is tight. Seriously FFS.
You ****ing want good mother****ing financial decisions?!?!

How much did Jaye Howard, Ron Parker and Spencer Ware cost when they got here? How much do Tyreek Hill, Marcus Peters, Terrance Mitchell, Dee Ford, Chris Jones and Mitch Morse cost this year?

Andy was ****ing horrific in this area. His 2005, 2006, 2010 and 2011 drafts were horrible.
Just ****ing admit it. Dorsey and Ballard were huge losses.

Houston demanded JJ Watt money to extend the year BEFORE his 22 sack season. Houston made himself money for sure, but it's not as though Houston was going to sign at $15 million anyway.

And Berry's contract is virtually identical to what he asked for the year before; it's a little higher due to inflation on the salary cap but his agent tethered his demands to the amount he would've made under the tag. Those demands never moved. Dorsey did as much as he could and when Berry wouldn't budge, he relented. Nothing Dorsey did changed the amount Berry got paid relative to the cap.

People are bending over backwards to defend the indefensible and they're forgetting how all this shit went down in real time.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12928368)

Very, very few people that have worked in the NFL, in any capacity, never get fired.

It's part of the business.

When they suck sure

When they put together the supposed best roster in the NFL, not so much

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12928382)

There's some chatter that hunt had to step in on the berry negotiations to get them done. Dunno how true though

Dumber move made yesterday: Chiefs fire Dorsey or Bulls trade Butler for ham sandwich?

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12928394)

Dumber move made yesterday: Chiefs fire Dorsey or Bulls trade Butler for ham sandwich?

they traded Jimmy????? :eek::deevee:

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12928394)

Dumber move made yesterday: Chiefs fire Dorsey or Bulls trade Butler for ham sandwich?

I like ham sandwiches

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12928304)

I said something about this earlier and somebody said McCoy sucks ass and his opinion doesn't matter

That would be me.

And no, I said McCoy is dumb as a bag of hammers and his opinion doesn't matter.

Clark was probably upset with all the backlash of how Jamaal was let go (will be in ring of honor), Maclin needing to be let go because of terrible cap situation (Reid clearly upset), and asking to be paid top GM NFL money. No doubt he's an incredible evaluator, and will be surely missed, but thank you John for Mahomes!

Gonna start calling Clark Hunt Jerry Jones Hunt

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12928313)

Dorsey wouldn't sign an extension without an escape clause allowing him to leave for Green Bay.

It's the only thing that makes sense. Mellinger came to the same conclusion last night.

No matter what anyone tells you - ever - when they say it's not about the money, it's always about the money.

John Dorsey wasn't going to turn down a potential long-term extension worth tens of millions of dollars because he wanted a CHANCE at returning to Green Bay. If [X] dollars has Dorsey saying "no, I want an out of the GB job opens up" then say "You may have [X]+[Y] to forego that chance at a job you may very well not even get...."

And sooner or later, when [Y] gets big enough, the deal gets done. Unless this was a bitch-fit, it was a money thing. And neither of them are acceptable.

John Dorsey should still be this franchise's GM.

Outwardly we see Dorsey's apparent strengths and weaknesses. But, this smacks of something more. Maybe there were personnel problems in the organization (e.g. sexual harassment) and maybe Dorsey did a poor job in handling the situation, on top of other management lapses. Typically, companies part ways with managers regarding HR lapses and everyone is quiet about it. I don't know this to be true, but it can be an explanation behind a dismissal that otherwise makes no sense. Think Fox News.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12928355)

Public eye? It sucks.

Professional eye? The job is very desirable. Loaded roster, QBOTF, qb of the present.

I don't think Veach is a slam dunk and actually think Scot McCloughan gets strong consideration.

Tied to a coach who is going to outlast you unless he dies (Hunt just firmly established that) so you're going to be the fall guy. Moreover, said 'QBOTF' ties your hands for the next 3 years at least because they're not going to move on from the guy before he's given a full shot. You also aren't going to complete control because however the hell this roster is being assembled, it clearly isn't just the GM that's calling the shots. I believe this process has made that abundantly clear.

Oh, and if you do well and ask to be paid accordingly, you may get fired anyway.

There are considerable downsides to this job as well.