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milkman 06-07-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12905853)
Well shit, if you want to dig that deep it's Pioli's fault for leaving exactly zero roster depth.

Dorsey's approach isn't exactly secret; horizontal roster building. He wants depth stacked deep across the roster (as opposed to Pioli's stars and scrubs rosters). So he's been using a ton of draft capital to build that depth.

The problem is that when the depth wasn't already there, if you miss on someone (and you will), it creates a hole that you can't backfill as easily as you'd like.

As for the Carr issue - really, if Dorsey didn't take Carr because he had Smith already, that's on Dorsey. Smith's extension was after the '14 draft - the Chiefs weren't married to Smith yet and Dorsey's the final say. Reid's position was wholly reasonable coming into the 2013 season - he's a guy that just got ****ing fired and is taking over a team that experienced a fan mutiny mere months ago. He couldn't go into the 2013 season with no friggen quarterback. So the Smith move had to be made - it just did. And bark and complain all you want, but 2 second rounders for a guy that's given you credible quarterback play for 5 years is actually a pittance. That trade worked out well.

Dorsey can't hide behind Reid here - if he wanted Carr, he should've taken Carr. At that point you don't extend Smith in August of '14 and his iffy '14 season is probably enough to spark the QB move.

You can't blame Reid for Dorsey passing on Carr. Dorsey had a similar roadmap in front of him to what he has now and he paid much more dearly to bring in Mahomes. Dorsey just didn't have the juevos to make the move at the time.

I don't believe it had anything to do with juevos.

I think it had to do with trust.

Andy Reid believed he could get more out of Alex than he actually could.
Dorsey trusted that he would.

Easy 6 06-07-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12906923)
Andy Reid believed he could get more out of Alex than he actually could.
Dorsey trusted that he would.

These two sentences could sum up sooo many arguments that go on around here

Its no ones fault, its everyones fault, hate to say it but it is what it is, no regime is perfect... they both knew we could win with Smith, but maybe Reid believed he could win more with him, that he could coax a new pinnacle out of Smith

DaneMcCloud 06-07-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12906923)
Andy Reid believed he could get more out of Alex than he actually could.
Dorsey trusted that he would.

Oh, just **** off. This team was a laughing stock when Dorsey and Reid were hired.

Since then, this team has won double digit games and has SIX Prime Time games scheduled this year.

You, like most of CP, doesn't get it.

This is CLARK HUNT'S plan and it's FINALLY being realized.

He made a major misstep with Pioli and has rectified it.

saphojunkie 06-07-2017 07:46 PM

It's also entirely possible that Dorsey liked Derek Carr and wanted to draft him, but Reid didn't like that he shits himself versus the rush.

Mahomes under pressure is a miracle to behold.

If I'm not mistaken - the numbers last year were night and day when Carr was pressured.

milkman 06-07-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12906960)
Oh, just **** off. This team was a laughing stock when Dorsey and Reid were hired.

Since then, this team has won double digit games and has SIX Prime Time games scheduled this year.

You, like most of CP, doesn't get it.

This is CLARK HUNT'S plan and it's FINALLY being realized.

He made a major misstep with Pioli and has rectified it.

What the **** is your ****ing problem?

I didn't say anything negative or derogatory here.

I simply made an observation of the kind of relationship that exists between Dorsey and Reid.

KranzDictum 06-07-2017 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12906960)
Oh, just **** off. This team was a laughing stock when Dorsey and Reid were hired.

Since then, this team has won double digit games and has SIX Prime Time games scheduled this year.

You, like most of CP, doesn't get it.

This is CLARK HUNT'S plan and it's FINALLY being realized.

He made a major misstep with Pioli and has rectified it.

Oh the heights of success! Dare to Dream!

If you think of it though a slight decline from the heady days when Reid made the NFC Championship game 4 years in a row.

threebag 06-07-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12902774)
Longer than you, kid.

Mahomes has a better chance at being a HOF QB than you being anything more than a piece of shit.

Hammock Parties 06-07-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12907022)
Mahomes has a better chance at being a HOF QB than you being anything more than a piece of shit.

In that case go ahead and put him in the HOF now, because I'm pretty damn successful.

Hammock Parties 06-07-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12906971)
What the **** is your ****ing problem?

He's Dane.

If you disagree with him, he acts like a total dick.

Are you new here?

Halfcan 06-07-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12907164)
He's Dane.

If you disagree with him, he acts like a total dick.

Are you new here?

ROFL

BossChief 06-07-2017 10:02 PM

Clay interested in making a bet with me regarding Hunts production?

He gets 350 offensive yards, you buy me a home Mahomes jersey or a sembower piece of Tyreek or Mahomes that's signed so I can put it next to my Peters signed print from you....

If I lose the bet, I fork over 50 bucks.

I'm doing odds due to raising the yardage bar.

Hunt is going to be a star in this league.

A star.

Couch-Potato 06-07-2017 10:12 PM

...this is one of those threads that's molded into something else and needs to just be shut down. mods?

The Franchise 06-08-2017 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12907253)
Clay interested in making a bet with me regarding Hunts production?

He gets 350 offensive yards, you buy me a home Mahomes jersey or a sembower piece of Tyreek or Mahomes that's signed so I can put it next to my Peters signed print from you....

If I lose the bet, I fork over 50 bucks.

I'm doing odds due to raising the yardage bar.

Hunt is going to be a star in this league.

A star.

How is that a fair bet?

vailpass 06-08-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12907532)
How is that a fair bet?

It's the standard heads I win tails you lose wager.

mcaj22 06-08-2017 08:45 AM

if you think Hunt is going to be a star you would fork over way more than 50 bucks if you lost the bet, because you should be so confident you can't lose that you make an offer he can't refuse


because your bet is so lacking in confidence it makes me think you dont actually believe hes going to be a star lol


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