Hey can you tell me who was the Superbowl MVP this year?


Thanks.

Deion Branch won a SBMVP too

It doesn’t take an All Pro receiver

I know something nobody else does. Just wait and see what I'm cooking not only for this draft but for years to come. While everyone else thinks they're being cute playing checkers, I'm over here playing speed chess on master level. In time they will all be little flies caught in my web. I'm the best to ever do it. -Brett Veach

That is not the norm. All time great season and he won't do it again. You know what he made? 15. Not 30.

The ref who didn't call the offsides is the SBMVP of last year. Let's not bring up the hypocrisy of the Dee Ford game. I can't do it.

Draft a couple wrs every year and you will never need one guy getting 30 mil. Most of the all time best dont have rings. Wanna know why? They are not the driving force to winning championships. Bradys overrated ass has 7. None of them were credited to a WR. QB, OL and DL win titles.

So basically don't pay any other position other than QB since QB the only "normal" Superbowl MVP position.

Deon Branch won Superbowl MVP in 2005 so...

That's not what I said. A WR is not worth the price tags that Adam's, Hill and Diggs got. Now Deebo wants more than Hill.

For the record the SB MVP should have gone to Donald. He wrecked them all game.

Tyreek made a bunch of game saving/game ending/game clinching plays the past two years. He was also headed toward another monster playoff game if Mahomes didn't forget how to play football.

I'd say he helped lead us to a title and was on the way to helping lead us to another.

Why not? The salary cap goes up every year. So players salaries will go up too. The salary cap gets ****ed when you pay players a lot of money and they suck, ala frank Clark. Not because you pay a player a lot of money and they're elite like we think Hill will be. I wouldn't care at all if we paid Tyreek the $23.9 mil a year he actually will get because I believe that he'll continue his top level of play.

I'm quite happy to watch other AFC teams pay $25-30M a year for wide receivers.

those aren't his cap hits you don't just average it out.

The WR market is clearly out of control, and there’s a reason why two great organizations traded away their #1 WRs this season.

Only a butt****ing moron like King can’t understand this.

So am I. They will be bitching about those contracts next season.

You can structure his cap his anyway you'd like. I'm sure we'd take more than a 6.5 mil hit this year like the dolphins are doing.

None of them are doing that though.


I've never seen people pretend that contract fluff is real money until recently lol.

Yeah well at least they'll be contending.

Or TV money will insanely boost the cap and Veach will be sitting at his desk looking for a #1 WR with his dick in his hand!

We could have Garrett Wilson for the next 6 years when you include the franchise tag. Maybe that's the master plan.

Doesn't Adams deal average out to about 21M a year? Still though it's tough to have a large portion of your cap go to a WR.

Nothing wrong with having a proven WR who can bail out your QB or be the go to guy. Seems Clarks contract hurt the chances of keeping Hill.

I would also add that Great QB's who can make most WR are hard to come by. Last years QB's who played in the SB sure had great WR help.

Go root for them then bitch!

No thanks.

While Veach is out there trading away his best players for peanuts, George Paton was getting Tim Patrick and Courtland Sutton signed to new deals for $26M per year COMBINED.

Really? Miami and the Faid are now contenders. I think not. They are no better than they were with their QB.

Raiders and Bills are. Dolphins, yeah you're right. Unless Tua has a come to Jesus moment, they'll remain average/solid.

There will have to be a cap on this contracts eventually because it'll hurt the brand. All the talented skill players will want a good portion of what's allocated to the team then it'll be good or elite QBs praying that JAG can make a catch under pressure. Then the Elite WR are standing around with hands on their hips because said poor to mediocre QBs can't pass accurately and on due to their deficiency playing the QB position.

Imagine bragging about overpaying a JAG like Tim Patrick LMAO

You are either really bad at trolling, or very ignorant. STFU

Both seem to be true with post like this.

LMFAO! Dead serious question here...next year and next year only would you rather have Sutton and Patrick or Juju and MVS? I dont even think Im being a homer here and Id roll with Juju and MVS. Veach locked Juju and MVS up for damn near half the price of Sutton and Patrick.

Sutton and Patrick easily. Patrick is easily the worse of the two and he has more yards in each of the past two years with Drew Lock and Bridgewater than MVS has any year of his career and he had Rodgers.

He also had significantly more targets, but don’t let that get in the way of your narrative.

MVS had 11 yards per target 2 seasons ago in his best season.

Patrick’s best season was also 2 seasons ago and he had 9.4.

For their career, MVS has .2 more yards per target.

Davante Adams was force fed the ball a lot by Rodgers. 2nd most targets at 169.

Then you see him spread the ball around quite a bit. Cobb, Lazard and MVS had pretty similar target numbers

Either you have dumb and incompetent players who don't know their value and sign for cheaper than their worth and aren't intelligent enough to perform up to their abilities, or you signed those 2 players for their value and it's just about worth 26mm/yr combined.

There's no other possibility.

Tim Patrick has 12 TD's in 55 games. Sutton also has 12 Td's but in 50 games. Sutton only managed 2 TD's on 98 targets and 17 games.

Yep, they are a modern day Taylor and Rice.

In Patricks 4 years in the league he has 2009 yards and 12 touchdowns.

In Jujus 4 years in the league he has 3720 yards and 26 touchdowns.

Pretty much DOUBLE the production! Tim Patrick is making more money than Juju next year. Patrick is 28 years old. Juju is entering his prime at 25 years old.

***Did not count any 2021-2022 stats for Juju as season was pretty much lost due to injury.

As far as aerial attack goes...

Mahomes > Wilson
Kelce > Dude who no one knows. Name starts with "O"
Chiefs Trade or 1st Round pick > Sutton
Juju > Jeudy
MVS > Patrick
Hardman > Hamler

If he plays 55 more games he might manage to catch 12 more TD's-LOL

Reality check. Both those players are not worth a $26M cap hit.

Donkos fans on here literally convinced they’ve got an All Pro cast of WR’s just waiting to bust out. Wilson will show us how great they really are!

News flash! If you’re great, it’s because your great. Not because of the QB. Kelce and Reek were/are great. Know how I know? Because they both performed when Alex Smith was their QB.

Sutton had the one 1000 yard season in 2019. Other than that, he’s either been injured or a JAG. And the rest of Denver’s high draft picks have yet to accomplish ANYTHING of note in the NFL. Hell, you can make the argument, legitimately, that Patrick (28 year old Ravens cast off) is their best WR!

That’s pretty ****ing sad.


But I’m sure Russell Wilson will turn all 4 of their JAG’s into All Pro’s . . . . . .

I'd rather have Byron Pringle than Tim Patrick.

Never heard of these guys. Who do they play for?

Do people realize this never actually happens? It's not Madden. If any drafted player is a stud after 3-4 years he's getting paid.

I'm all for loading up on young talent and maxinizing those first few years, but let's not pretend they're cheap for 6 freaking years.

Which one is the peg and which one is the a sis

Traded Hill for peanuts? 5 picks isn't peanuts.

Why has this asswipe not been banned? Or quick somebody send him a lifetime supply of antifreeze ROFL

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Chiefs DL = shit sandwich

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Campbell is an old, which clearly isn’t how we’re building the defense. With Veach’s aggressiveness and money to spend, if we don’t get someone, it’s likely because we didn’t really care that much about getting them as part of the overall plan. Everyone will feel cautiously comfortable with the D-line and defense generally come August..


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It's horrible isn't it? I know there's plenty of time but it does feel a very different place to our OL rebuild last year.

Yawn, 2 more turds in the punch bowl. Has either player ever had a winning season? Looking forward to your absence after week 8.

FYP

Last year at this time our glorious OL rebuild had amounted to a ****ing guard. Both OTs were gone, and no immediate replacements were added in the offseason up to that point. With just the dudes just on the roster with no other acquisitions, we would have had a starting OL of Niang Thuney Blythe LDT and Remmers

In other words... how about you wait a goddamn minute?

Like I've been saying.

Veach can draft a player on day 2 or 3 for far cheaper than what you paid Tim Patrick.

Btw Tyreek had more Td’s last year than those 2 players combined LMAO

It's April


do you think this is what we're rolling with

Our CB group is just as bad. Unless Veach nails the draft and we get immediate returns from rookie pass rushers (unlikely) this defense has the potential to be very bad.

Over a month again Veach mentioned how good the draft was at DL. It’s a very strong group with solid talent.

I think we will double dip and get a couple of good players up front

I guess I’m less hopeful. Pass rushers usually take a couple years to develop. The bills double-dipped at DE last year with Rousseau and basham and grabbed epenesa the year before and their pass rush was still mediocre.

Mediocre would be a huge leap forward from where they were last year.

Wanna go ahead and declare right now that the Chiefs CBs to be the worst in the NFL like people do every ****ing offseason? Or would you rather wait and overreact to shit you see in preseason games?

JFC. Who said they were the worst in the nfl? LMAO

We could sign Melvin Ingram today and have basically the same pass rush as last year before the draft even starts.

You add Ingram and 2-3 early round pass rushers and it’s already a much deeper group.

I just don’t buy that it’s somehow going to be worse.

People do every year. They see a guy give up a TD in training camp or preseason and blow their brains out with a shotgun.

It's clockwork. Watch it happen this July/August.

You'll get people lamenting that we let Ward walk in free agency even though he gave up scores all the time in practice sessions. You might even see a few nutsos bitching at Veach for not re-signing Mathieu.

It could arguably be better if they get a contribution from Kaindoh

Ingram is old

would love to have Wyatt to push there shit in

And?

He was old last year and looked like a guy that still had another year left in the tank to me.

The idea is to have a better rotation so you can keep him fresh.

Chandler Jones is 32 same age as Ingram
Von is 33, K Mack is 31

And he was non existent in the Steelers and Bengals games. I'll have to look up what he did against the Bills off the top I don't remember him doing much. Your opinion of course will change based off what Veach does.

It's pretty telling the market all those guys had and what Ingram has had

Im convinced Ingram will be back, he just doesn’t want to take part in all the offseason programs

But all those other old guys listed are.

Current ends on the roster
Clark
Kaindoh
Herring
Danna

And we all pretty much agree we will be taking an edge guy in 1 of the first 2 rounds. S Taylor has listed 100 guys who are first rounders. We atleast take 1 in this draft maybe more plus sign some UDFA's. I'm not dumping any of those young guys for a 33 year old maybe rotational guy. Move on

He was the only Chief to get a sack in the AFCCG

IDK, sounds like a good player to have in the rotation

His smack down of Melvin Gordon in week 18 literally won us the game. Keep him

Yep, with all due respect, I'd have Igram back on the cheap rather than Herring on the roster any day.

I hope they carry 11 Defensive linemen

Ingram
Clark
Danna
Kaindoh
Jones
Nnadi
Saunders
Wharton
Stallworth
Rookie
Rookie

Then just take double edge, or 1 interior 1 edge, depending how it falls

That's exactly the case.

I wonder if they'll bring in an older WR for training camp. Kinda like I feel why Henne is back

- more than I thought: $2,385,000 and a signing bonus of $880,000, while carrying a cap hit of $3,265,000 and a dead cap value of $3,265,000. NFL contract specifics generally collected from

Do you ever not talk out of your ass?

Are you ever not dishonest?