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it might be too early to say this, but, i can honestly say that i am on pins and needles with this team.
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And we said a month ago if they can just avoid those typically deep slumps ... And what did they do? Go 4-20.
If they'd just go 10-14, or 9-15 ... that's bad, but it's not crippling bad. Why can't they make that curve shallower? Why does it always have to be so steep? This pitching WILL suffer some regression. I hope the bats can improve enough to prevent another deep trough. |
The Royals didn't trade for Shields to just be a .500 team this year, if they are close they need to make moves happen
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The chewing chick in the background cracks me up.
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The guy on the right: "That's my boy." as he gets left hanging.
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Mendoza is the bomb.
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Santana typically has 2 good to great years for every bad year. He's generally pretty consistent throughout a season, whether he's having a good one or a bad one. Selling high on him midseason probably doesn't help as much as you think it might. You'd have to sell to a contender, and it would be hard to find one of those willing to part with an everyday 2B or RF that makes the same type of impact as Santana. You probably get more value from him by keeping him the entire season, making a qualifying offer, and picking up a comp. pick i next year's draft. He'd be a great chip to trade if they're not IN the race at the trade deadline. But you weaken a big part of the rotation by moving him... even with Paulino and Duffy coming back, there's no guarantee those guys are good to go from Day 1. If the Royals make the playoffs, they need a better No. 2 than Jeremy Guthrie, Luis Mendoza or Felipe Paulino. |
Has there never been a parallel between KC Royals and BBQ sauce in franchise history?
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I'm neg bombing the next poster that mentions trading any contributor off the major league roster at the moment.
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I am glad the guys really stuck together and kept it loose. Baseball is such a grind.
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watched last 8 games .. they finally lookin like a baseball team .. GO ROYALS ....
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And it all comes back to...Moose and Hosmer.
Hosmer is showing signs to me. Moose is not. But if we're going to sustain this run and win more games than lose, those two guys have GOT to contribute. |
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AND/IF/(MAYBE) moose turns it around? #holycrapgodmode! |
I'd rather try to extend Santana than Shields because of the mileage on the latter's arm/body.
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Oh you said contributor. |
Well, the good news is that there are no more scheduled blackouts for Royals games on mlb.tv's schedule. The bad news is that I'm on to night flying which means work will prevent me from enjoying the weekday games live.
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I was shocked to see that. Given fairly equal mileage and age (Shields is 1 year older), I'll take the fastball/changeup guy over the fastball/slider guy. I think Shields more as a staff leader/sage type. |
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Story from Jo Poz on how much Yuni Betancourt sucks....
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/201...his-yuni-verse. |
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The next month will present some critical questions for the Royals front office.
June 26 (10 days remain) Dyson must be brought up. So. Will Lough be optioned or Frenchy DFA'd? July 11 Paulino will be added to the 25-man roster again. Who is the odd man out of the rotation - Mendoza or Davis? And who is optioned/DFA'd to make room? Further, do they option Duffy to preserve service time or bring him up as well and how do they make room for him? What say you CP? |
Payroll should also be interesting next year. Moose and Hos move to arbitration, I believe. Alex and Billy get raises. Chen and Frenchy come off the books. Anyone have any idea how much net payroll that gets us?
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Cut bait with Getz and Franceour IMO...but i dont see them letting franceoer go at all |
So big changes:
Qualifying offer to Santana will be 14 mill. I would venture to guess he would at least consider such an offer. (+1MM) Shields will be paid 13.5 mill next year with escalators. (+3MM) Gordon goes from 9MM to 10MM (+1MM) Butler actually stays at 8MM (0MM) Guthrie goes from 5MM to 11MM (+6MM) Frenchy is gone (-6.5MM) Hoch is gone (-4.6MM) Chen is gone (-4.5MM) Davis moves from 2.8MM to 4.8MM (+2MM) Escobar stays at 3MM (0MM) Paulino goes to arbitration and probably gets his same 2MM (0MM) Perez goes up half a mill. (+0.5MM) Holland/Collins/Hos/Moose/Mendoza/Johnson/Kottaras/Getz all go to arbitration Herrera/Crow/Cain/Duffy/Hayes/Giavotella/Lamb/Lough/Dwyer are all under three years service. Tejada is gone (-1.1MM) Arguelles is in the last year of his contract. (0MM increase) Who knows what we are doing with: Gutierrez/Marks(2 options left I think?)/Joseph (2 options left I think?)/Moore/Bueno(any options left?)/Smith(one option left?)/Rincon/Berry/Teaford |
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I hope these kids can grind through it and shut-up all us old-timer critics and come out of it in a position where they are contending for the division... If they have the division scared and the rest of the league too, it might be an awesome August at the K... We'll see.... |
they should trade for Alfonso Soriano.
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expiring contract; cubs will eat most of his salary; would be *sadly* our best power hitter
wouldn't cost much at all although Gordon would have to play RF which I can't imagine would be that tough of a transition for a GOLD GLOVE stud OF like Gordon |
Let Soriano play 2B again. Cain in right, Dyson in Center. Lough as a fourth OF.
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I think I already changed my mind about Soriano LMAO
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Okay, hootie. |
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and we need power...Castro makes no sense. |
The Royals need serious power, it may cost us Ventura but they have to do the best they can to bring a power hitter here, maybe 2 new hitters
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Gordon Castro Hos Butler Moose Salvy Cain Dyson Escobar If we are selling out to contend now, Utley still makes the most sense. The Phillies are 8 GB and Utley is in the last year of his deal. |
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Remember when a lot of people thought John Buck was going to win the homerun title this April?
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We have to wait another month to see where we are. We just had a 4-19 stretch once. There's no point trading for guys until we have a good idea where we are. We have to be within 5 of Detroit or the wild card to do anything
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If you get Utley, I think you can look at sending moose down to AAA and platooning Tejada and Johnson at 3B.
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He's a fourth outfielder. At. Best. |
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Myers called up! Let the march for ROY begin.
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Ventura with another solid start at Omaha last night:
5 IP | 3 H | 1 BB | 5 K They're still keeping him on a pitch count. Want to see him continue working on the control and pitch count issues before he gets the call. But the stuff is electric. |
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Shields Duffy Guthrie Davis/Paulino Ventura ..Could make Santana's loss much easier to manage. |
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Shields Paulino Guthrie Davis Mendoza I wonder what type of bat Duffy and or Ventura could bring back. |
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Shields Guthrie Davis Paulino Duffy with Mendoza in long relief, waiting to slide in because of injury or ineffectiveness. Rotation won't be as good at the No. 2 spot in that case. The key will be getting production from Nos. 4 and 5 to balance it out. Davis, Paulino and Duffy all have the raw ability to fill the No. 2 role, but don't have the track record. |
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Oh, I also think Ventura is the most special of the SPs they've brought through the system under this regime. Since he got "right" entering last year, he's done nothing but produce. And he has handled the difficult promotions with relative ease.
He has good trade value, but his size will diminish some of that. Duffy also has value, but is still too close to the injury to fetch top price. |
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I'd guess they're the same at No. 1, slightly worse at No. 2, slightly worse at No. 3, better at No. 4, better at No. 5, with a slight net loss. But that kind of depends on how Ervin Santana closes the year. |
So is keeping Santana just out of the question?
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I like Duffy's upside as well. I wonder if he struggles as a starter if he wouldn't make a pretty good closer. He'll have a place on this team somewhere. |
What is Santana's trade value right now?
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All trade value inquiries should be directed to resident trade value guru ChiefsandOsfan.
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And I don't think a team like KC can really afford to take the RISK of a 4-year, $60 million deal with Santana. If he reverts/go bad/finally throws one slider too many, that contract becomes crippling. It's a combination of risk and cost. |
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It's important to remember that Zack Greinke (Who Santana is currently outpitching) signed a 6 yr/147m contract last season. Also, Anibal Sanchez (who did not have Santana's resume) nabbed a 5 yr/80m contract last season. If Santana continues his incredible production, it's not crazy to suggest that he'll be offered a contract somewhere between (the yearly monetary value of) these two deals (due to his age and propensity for homeruns, I doubt his deal exceeds Greinkes. However, with this market, who knows.) Why the Royals are out of it might be because we have never offered a contract that exceeds 5/55m. |
I will say that I love Santana, and I feel like Kauffman is one of the best home ballparks he could have due to his pitching style, but I doubt we can offer a 4/70 or even a 4/60 to stay competitive for him this offseason.
Would he would sign a team friendly deal (for the ballpark and the team)? Well, we can dream. |
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