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staylor26 02-23-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17415028)
Speed + acceleration are elite

No.

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He’s not as explosive as (Jalin) Hyatt was coming out, but I look at him in a similar way with what he can do for your offense and what you won’t ask him to do. He’s a better route runner than Hyatt.” - NFC scouting director
Here's an NFC scouting director comparing him to ****ing Hyatt. Of course "he's not as explosive", but who is?

The way you're talking about him, there would be no comparison to be made.

RunKC 02-23-2024 12:09 PM

Franklin is fast as hell. Burst seems pretty good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon WR Troy Franklin had the fastest top-out speed of the week at 22.3 MPH 🏎️<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/RAanalytics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RAanalytics</a> <a href="https://t.co/hfYxGPRwad">pic.twitter.com/hfYxGPRwad</a></p>&mdash; College Football Report (@CFBRep) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1724205094114066744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I get the argument tho. Skyy was lauded for his insane 10 yard time and he doesn't show it at all on the field

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17415043)
Franklin is fast as hell. Burst seems pretty good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon WR Troy Franklin had the fastest top-out speed of the week at 22.3 MPH 🏎️<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/RAanalytics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RAanalytics</a> <a href="https://t.co/hfYxGPRwad">pic.twitter.com/hfYxGPRwad</a></p>&mdash; College Football Report (@CFBRep) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1724205094114066744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I get the argument tho. Skyy was lauded for his insane 10 yard time and he doesn't show it at all on the field

22.3 MPH but his speed doesn't translate on the field!

LMAO

100% debunked.

O.city 02-23-2024 12:13 PM

Thomas Jr is probably the better prospect though.

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17415062)
Thomas Jr is probably the better prospect though.

I disagree, but I don't think the difference is so much that it's not arguable.

I like BTJ, but he reminds me of Terrace Marshall Jr. so much that it scares me a bit.

O.city 02-23-2024 12:18 PM

I "think" what he's getting at, is that Thomas JR is a more explosive player from the aspect of prior to catching the football.

Franklin has grown on me, because of you guys being high on him. I think he's got a really good skillset, but I still struggle with the drops and contested stuff. I also don't think he really plays to his size as much as Thomas jr does.

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17415079)
I "think" what he's getting at, is that Thomas JR is a more explosive player from the aspect of prior to catching the football.

Franklin has grown on me, because of you guys being high on him. I think he's got a really good skillset, but I still struggle with the drops and contested stuff. I also don't think he really plays to his size as much as Thomas jr does.

Well that's because Thomas Jr. has like 20lbs on him. He's not just tall.

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:22 PM

I don't care about the mass as much in today's NFL though. I just watched Tank Dell absolutely ball out before his freak injury at his size. Nobody was a bigger Dell fan than me, and even I let the size thing cloud by better judgment based on the tape.

It just doesn't matter with the advantages offenses have today in terms of rules/officiating.

O.city 02-23-2024 12:26 PM

But the size does matter to an extent. It's not like it's 1994 but small guys still break down.

MahomesMagic 02-23-2024 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17415060)
22.3 MPH but his speed doesn't translate on the field!

LMAO

100% debunked.

Not as good as Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison last year.

They were much better prospects.

He will be a fast player that will be useful but not impactful.

I don’t see him separating from good NFL corners regularly. He would be a better MVS replacement here but I want more in a 1st round pick.

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17415101)
Not as good as Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison last year.

They were much better prospects.

He will be a fast player that will be useful but not impactful.

I don’t see him separating from good NFL corners regularly. He would be a better MVS replacement here but I want more in a 1st round pick.

So we're moving the goalposts after your bullshit got debunked, with no acknowledgment that you were wrong about his speed not translating?

If you're sitting at 32, you aren't getting a Flowers or Addison level prospect. He's not THAT far off from Addison though.

Titty Meat 02-23-2024 12:34 PM

Could to see you guys getting on Franklin/McCaffery bandwagons I was on that awhile ago.

RunKC 02-23-2024 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17415089)
I don't care about the mass as much in today's NFL though. I just watched Tank Dell absolutely ball out before his freak injury at his size. Nobody was a bigger Dell fan than me, and even I let the size thing cloud by better judgment based on the tape.

It just doesn't matter with the advantages offenses have today in terms of rules/officiating.

We don't need to spend a first on those guys though. I loved Marvin Mims. He had speed and excellent ball tracking/catching ability.

I'd be more than fine with McMillan in rd 2. Ideally we get a guy with size and speed if we use a pick in rd 1

MahomesMagic 02-23-2024 12:37 PM

Franklin is a safe pick you make if you just want to check a box.

Does not project as a 1 on the next level.

staylor26 02-23-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17415128)
Franklin is a safe pick you make if you just want to check a box.

Does not project as a 1 on the next level.

So you're just going to continue to pretend that your whole "his speed doesn't translate on the field" bullshit got disproven?

You know how normal people react to being wrong? They at least acknowledge it.

Bet you can't find a single play of Thomas Jr. being timed that fast.


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