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Red Dawg 08-10-2023 08:58 AM

Let's say he shows up and plays. After forking over 500K in fines do you think he will just go all out and give his best? He clearly thinks his tiny 20 mil for this season isn't enough to go to camp.

RunKC 08-10-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17050314)
The Sneed talk is pretty much a non starter. He's hitting FA, the Chiefs have that decision baked in. I doubt anyone around here is gonna wanna pay him....JC Jackson money? I mean, he'll ask for that especially if he hits FA.

Creed is probably gonna reset the C market at 16/17 million a year. I'd guess we get the same hoopla around here as we usually do on that

Then you get Smith probably wanting 14 or so a year.

McDuffie is better than Sneed and everyone will see that this season. Love Sneed but he's expendable.

Highest paid C is Kelce at $14.25. Creed at $15 million is a flat out steal, especially with the cap rising. Do it yesterday.

Unfortunately guys like Sneed and Trey are out. Sneed is easily getting at least $14 million APY (maybe more) and Trey is likely getting at least $18 million APY. Just can't keep them all with the cap.

Bolton is the one that will be polarizing bc his coverage skills are average but he's done so much and they love him. He's gonna be the leader when Chris is gone so I think they pony up and give him at least $19 million APY.

O.city 08-10-2023 09:01 AM

If the Chiefs tag him next year, they won't have any cap space to go looking for any free agents. You'd probably have to extend or cut Thuney, make a few other moves to free up some $. The Chiefs will want to get value back and have some control over where he goes, so they won't want to just let him walk.

O.city 08-10-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17050339)
McDuffie is better than Sneed and everyone will see that this season. Love Sneed but he's expendable.

Highest paid C is Kelce at $14.25. Creed at $15 million is a flat out steal, especially with the cap rising. Do it yesterday.

Unfortunately guys like Sneed and Trey are out. Sneed is easily getting at least $14 million APY (maybe more) and Trey is likely getting at least $18 million APY. Just can't keep them all with the cap.

Bolton is the one that will be polarizing bc his coverage skills are average but he's done so much and they love him. He's gonna be the leader when Chris is gone so I think they pony up and give him at least $19 million APY.

You don't want to pay a DPOY candidate who's 29, but you'd want to pay an off ball linebacker who struggles to cover in a passing league 19 million per year?

Getting Creed at 15 would be a steal, it won't be 15 though.

PHOG 08-10-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17050339)
McDuffie is better than Sneed and everyone will see that this season. Love Sneed but he's expendable.

Highest paid C is Kelce at $14.25. Creed at $15 million is a flat out steal, especially with the cap rising. Do it yesterday.

Unfortunately guys like Sneed and Trey are out. Sneed is easily getting at least $14 million APY (maybe more) and Trey is likely getting at least $18 million APY. Just can't keep them all with the cap.

Bolton is the one that will be polarizing bc his coverage skills are average but he's done so much and they love him. He's gonna be the leader when Chris is gone so I think they pony up and give him at least $19 million APY.

He's still only 23, also.

O.city 08-10-2023 09:06 AM

Bosa this year then Parsons next year will probably pass Donald financially. Then you've Garret with no more guaranteed money so he's gonna go lookin for a raise.

MIAdragon 08-10-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17050308)
It's a good thing Jones hasn't shown any signs of being that guy.

Until he does. Why do you think he’s an outlier?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-10-2023 09:10 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Developing: The Chiefs are unwilling to make Chris Jones the highest paid defensive tackle in the NFL, per a league source (via <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>)<br><br>Full story here: <a href="https://t.co/O53E1QkheM">https://t.co/O53E1QkheM</a> <a href="https://t.co/aSMyW4oT27">pic.twitter.com/aSMyW4oT27</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1689634305914347520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tredadda 08-10-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17050343)
You don't want to pay a DPOY candidate who's 29, but you'd want to pay an off ball linebacker who struggles to cover in a passing league 19 million per year?

Getting Creed at 15 would be a steal, it won't be 15 though.

You must not watch much of Bolton if this is all you see in him. He's no Deion Sanders, but the guy is a stud.

Red Dawg 08-10-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17050353)
Until he does. Why do you think he’s an outlier?

He isn't. AD signed his crazy deal and fell off the map. Call it a down year or call it getting old or lazy. Fact is he didn't come close to being worth it and Jones won't either most likely. Last year he was worth 30 mil but that's a big long shot happening again.

tredadda 08-10-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17050357)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Developing: The Chiefs are unwilling to make Chris Jones the highest paid defensive tackle in the NFL, per a league source (via <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>)<br><br>Full story here: <a href="https://t.co/O53E1QkheM">https://t.co/O53E1QkheM</a> <a href="https://t.co/aSMyW4oT27">pic.twitter.com/aSMyW4oT27</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1689634305914347520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If true this is significant. If he wants to be the highest paid DT, then it will be hard for KC to do that. I always thought Jones was looking for #2 DT money.

O.city 08-10-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17050360)
You must not watch much of Bolton if this is all you see in him. He's no Deion Sanders, but the guy is a stud.

They've been talking about Tranquill playing those snaps for Bolton in passing situations.

Why would they do that?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-10-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17050366)
If true this is significant. If he wants to be the highest paid DT, then it will be hard for KC to do that. I always thought Jones was looking for #2 DT money.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He adds that Chris Jones is looking for a contract that makes him &#39;at least&#39; the second-highest paid DT in the NFL. <br><br>This is the first time we&#39;ve heard that the Chiefs aren&#39;t willing to go as high as Aaron Donald.</p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1689652503884038145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BleedingRed 08-10-2023 09:13 AM

I love CJ, I really do.....

But I need to keep Creed, Bolton, Smith.

AdolfOliverBush 08-10-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17050357)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Developing: The Chiefs are unwilling to make Chris Jones the highest paid defensive tackle in the NFL, per a league source (via <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>)<br><br>Full story here: <a href="https://t.co/O53E1QkheM">https://t.co/O53E1QkheM</a> <a href="https://t.co/aSMyW4oT27">pic.twitter.com/aSMyW4oT27</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1689634305914347520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's not even close to being worth Donald money. Hard pass.


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