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SAUTO 01-27-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14076787)
I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.

I think we should move from him.

I just disagree with sdh assessment of his production

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-27-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14076787)
I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.

Speaking of trucks containing large cargo, another poster linked up the "Alex Smith signs 4 year contract thread" earlier. I decided to take a trip down memory lane for shits and giggles, and let me tell you; there's a WHOLE "Brinks truck" O' Moron in THAT ****ing thing...damn.

Enjoy!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=286110

O.city 01-27-2019 08:57 PM

Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming

pugsnotdrugs19 01-27-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14076802)
Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming

Yep.. saw it live.

tk13 01-27-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14076802)
Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming

That may not mean anything. The team may not have sorted out everything they want to do yet.

At the same time, Spags is always a guy who had a lot of success with defenses that were loaded with pass rushers he could rotate through. That's plays in Ford's favor.

Easy 6 01-27-2019 09:03 PM

Spags is gonna unleash a defense so aggressive and malevolent in nature, that Big Jim Johnson himself is gonna piss himself in the grave

CONVINCE ME I'M WRONG

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-27-2019 09:05 PM

He also said "I hope I come back". Spags hasn't been here for even a week. I HIGHLY doubt that such a decision has even been brought up for discussion, much less relayed to the player.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-27-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14076813)
Spags is gonna unleash a defense so aggressive and malevolent in nature, that Big Jim Johnson himself is gonna piss himself in the grave

CONVINCE ME I'M WRONG


IF...he's allowed to do it his way, yes.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-27-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14076802)
Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming

He’s gonna be disappointed when we tag and trade him.

He doesn’t fit well in the Spag defense and he’s a valuable asset in the NFL right now. Chiefs need to swing him for a good pick. The Packers (who have the Saints pick at the end of the first round) actually make a lot of sense now that Mike Smith is there and they are absolutely desperate for a pass rusher . . . .

I don’t hate Dee, but he’s had one good season and has had injury issues during his time here. Not worth a big contract.

Make it happen, Veach!

Chris Meck 01-27-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14076793)
I think we should move from him.

I just disagree with sdh assessment of his production

He's a productive pass rusher; it's just that it's all he is. He's a liability against the run or if asked to cover.

That would still be fine if he wasn't going to cost $15 million plus. Even that would be tolerable if we weren't in need of NFL starting quality talent at a few other positions.

We really don't want to HAVE to start like 4 rookies.
edit-I guess it'd be like 3 by my count, at SAM, one CB, and a S. Plus whoever's going to play on first down and any down less than 4 yards in Ford's spot. I mean it just doesn't make sense.

Chief Northman 01-27-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14076787)
I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.

Jaylon Ferguson.

Yeah, he’s a stud. I’d trade Ford in a heartbeat to get cheaper on the defense seeing as it is limited what we can do with the albatross Houston and Berry contracts. A low 1 or high 2 could nab a promising DL/Edge player - this draft is deep at D-line.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-27-2019 10:21 PM

If Houston and Berry give a single **** about winning anything here in KC, they’ll rework those contracts. I’m cautiously optimistic that something will happen with both.

Chief Northman 01-27-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14076912)
If Houston and Berry give a single **** about winning anything here in KC, they’ll rework those contracts. I’m cautiously optimistic that something will happen with both.

Don’t kid yourself.

Berry will milk his ailments for every red cent. Why have we not heard of a scheduled surgery for him? His drama will drag into the Summer, then Fall, and we will be back on a day to day status with him as he motivates from the sideline. Houston is his best bud, so however Berry goes, so does Houston.

They are no longer leaders of this team. They will soon become like DJ, Hali - great players, but could not win when it counted. They need to decrease, while Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Jones increase.

Chiefspants 01-27-2019 10:35 PM

I don't see why Justin Houston is lumped in here. Houston was one of our most impactful players on defense this year.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-27-2019 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14076924)
I don't see why Justin Houston is lumped in here. Houston was one of our most impactful players on defense this year.

His cap hit is $21M for this year. Can save $14M if he’s released.

He was really good down the stretch, but $21M good?


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