So Peyton is a great talent evaluator now? I don't want him as our GM. And Mahomes wouldn't be working on anything with Peyton except a contract. Do you see Elwaynout there showing Lynch how to qb in Dungver?

I don't post much but it's nice to see Penbrook is still a jackass.

Reports this morning starting to say Dorsey was blindsided by this. That seems to say what?

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That this was Clark's call. If there was some discontent with Andy, others would know. Discontent with Clark? No one is going to know.

That's what I thought.

Maybe just me but this doesn't seem like a good look on Clark

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We're 0 for 2 on high-profile acquisitions of people named "Dorsey."

Never again.

Public eye? It sucks.

Professional eye? The job is very desirable. Loaded roster, QBOTF, qb of the present.

I don't think Veach is a slam dunk and actually think Scot McCloughan gets strong consideration.

I dunno. I let also says "I can go in there and be successful and still get fired".

No first round pick next year and the new GM has to like Mahomes. I don't think the kid is for everyone.

I don't care for the structure where the HC and GM report directly to Hunt.

That suggests that Dorsey was a failure.

This is all on Clark.

I think the GB ties with Dorsey are very likely here too.

Bob McGinn has been covering the team for decades, even before Favre was traded for. It's obvious that he has insider knowledge in GB.

I don't think the GB report was speculation. I honestly think there was truth to it and Dorsey was thinking about it.

Flowers restructure was an attempt to salvage a fading asset and was defensible given the state of our defensive backfield. Robinson was a misfire, for sure. Succop and Baldwin's dead money were good things.

Fasano was a bad one, but people here LOVED the Walker signing. He just didn't fit the scheme as well; he was better as a 4-3 player and our attempt at a 3-4 conversion didn't work.

God the Bowe complaints. Jesus tapdancing Christ, the guy was the ONLY good pass-catcher this team had. Does anyone not recognize that the team was tasked with winning immediately? Hunt had a fan mutiny; they HAD to win games. Dorsey was over a barrel and it wasn't of his making. Pioli ****ed him and he tried to save it but couldn't because Bowe got paid and Bowe got fat. Gimme a break with that shit.

Flowers and Succop have already been discussed and who gives a large rat's ass about the $1.5 million on Mays and Avery. Hell, Avery was a win even with the dead money.

Getting warmer, but Grubbs $5 million in dead money wasn't really dead money because the Chiefs restructured his base salary in '15 to create exactly as much rollover as it took to cut him the next year. Care to point me in the direction of the thread where you called giving up a 5th round pick for a Pro Bowl player to replace Mike ****ing McGlynn was a bad idea? That's revisionist horseshit but by calling it a 'signing' you're pretty much outing yourself as ignorant anyway.

Hali is a problem. No question. I suspect that in the end Dorsey got caught flat-footed by Houston's failure to recover and panicked. He should've let Hali go and pursued Freeney. I think he fully expected to let Hali go that's why he let that option void, then he got the prognosis on Houston and freaked out.

Fanaika is dogshit. But hey, remember when that LDT guy they drafted played really good football in his stead? How 'bout we give some credit for that. Even with the dead money, the Chiefs paid $2 million for average guard play. That's pretty damn decent.

Everyone, to a man, thought that Howard signing was brilliant. Guy got ****ing hurt - that's not on Dorsey. Maclin's been re-hashed to death; in the end not a good signing but how can it not be viewed as an acceptable risk. A good young WR who knew the system backwards and forwards. Dorsey paid what the market required. Mauga - who ****ing cares? Mauga is actually a win on balance; a solid little complementary player that cost virtually nothing over his time here. Russel was a miss (but Dane actually said it was a feather in Dorsey's cap for moving on from a mistake...)

The biggest mistakes Dorsey has made are the two 'thank you' deals he gave to DJ and Hali. That's clearly what they are and the NFL doesn't have room for those. Those are problems but jesus they aren't fireable.

Very, very few people that have worked in the NFL, in any capacity, never get fired.

It's part of the business.