See what I mean? You can't even have a real rebuttal. You have nothing to say. You're a ****ing clueless idiot.

Come on, man, give Elway some respect. He's overseen the best five year run in franchise history with five straight divisional titles, five straight playoff appearances, two Super Bowl appearances and one win.

I'm in no way a Broncos fan but he's done an outstanding job. If the roles were reversed and we were talking about the Chiefs, I wouldn't give a shit that they just paid Stephenson $5 per because my team just won a Super Bowl.

And keep in mind, every time a Chief has left for the Broncos, it's worked out for them, whether it was Neil Smith, Keith Traylor and so on.

Face it, Dude: Since Elway arrived in Denver back in 1983, they've been the far superior franchise and it's not even close.

This is the guy you should really be watching out for though. Not even kidding.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...lor?id=2552416

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/liv...dan-taylor.jpg

I give Elway credit for what he's done, and of course I wish it was us that got Peyton and everything that followed. I just think they caught lightning in a bottle finding an elite/all-time great QB in free agency, and I don't see it happening again in the same fashion. I don't doubt he will make them respectable again, and maybe even a playoff caliber team, but I don't think they'll be a SB contender again any time soon. They don't scare me and neither does Lynch going forward.

It's waaaaaay too early to make that judgement, especially after the unprecedented run of the past five years.

Elway knows football.

What if they miss on Lynch, which is the most likely outcome (statistically speaking)?

Would that, along with aging stars, not set them back a while?

Too much has to go right for the Broncos to quickly get back to SB contention. I refuse to believe Elway is really that good/they're that lucky.

Yea he knows football, but he's admittedly not a true personell guy, and his last few drafts show it. He doesn't have the personell experience that a guy like Dorsey has, and geB has to really nail these next couple of drafts to get them back on track. I just think Dorsey will run laps around him now that Peyton is out of the way and they're in a transitional period.

He is the son of a coach and an actual NFL scout. Your entire post is an insane delusion.

It's not that ****ing hard to win division titles when a HOF QB suddenly becomes available. It's also not hard to attract FA's when a guy like that is on your team. The Patriots won a SB when Brandon Browner and Darrelle Revis came to town for cheap.

What if Dorsey had Manning fall into his lap in 2013? You really think this team wouldn't be in the SB?

Elway has dominated the Chiefs for the past 33 years. His dad was a football coach, he's spent his entire life around football and is a Stanford grad.

He's not a stubborn moron like Pioli or Peterson.

He's a Hall of Fame athlete and he's heading for a HOF career as an exec.

The Broncos, like any organization, will likely have a down year here or there but the guy has already proven to be the best NFL exec of the past five years.

Yeah, except that Manning was awful last year and replaced by an unknown, inexperienced fourth year QB and they STILL won the Super Bowl.

Good grief, people.

No, I don't believe the 2013 Chiefs would have been in the Super Bowl with Manning because the Chiefs lacked skill position players such as WR, TE's, cornerbacks and had a sieve for an offensive line.

A non-mobile QB would have been destroyed behind that line.

Really? Because Elway even said it himself you ****ing moron.

The problem is that Elway isn't the type of guy to sit back and just be oblivious about any aspect of football, so while his ability scout may have been a liability in the beginning, he'll undoubtedly get better.

Shane Ray, his first rounder in 2015, was a definite factor in the Super Bowl.

He played 5 games and almost lost them the top seed if not for Manning stepping in in the last game of the regular season. Manning easily lured their FA's. Without him Sanders is a Chief.

Elway is seriously lucky to get a once in a generation DT clone and HOF top 5 QB available in back-to-back years without having to give up anything.

Meanwhile we get the first pick in a shitty year.

Yeah, you're right: John Elway is lucky and the Chiefs are just unlucky.

:rolleyes: