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Thanks for the post ...very informative...you must have some insider connections
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I can’t help but think Bill Walsh’s success with the Niners is similar to the Curse of The Bambino where the Red Sox gave Babe Ruth to the Yankees. The Bengals would be the team with 4-5 rings instead of the Niners under the guidance of Walsh and his staff/players. |
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Their owner ship is what the Chargers have the reputation of.
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So at this point the Bengals have their franchise QB who has gotten paid and is healthy. They have a coaching staff who I think is in good standing. They've got some talent across the roster, the cupboard isn't bare. But it doesn't look nearly good enough to contend anymore. What's next? Just sign some free agents and draft well I guess, and hope next year goes better?
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Because you know that as long as that person owns the team, nothing is getting better. You hope to get lucky and some pieces fall into place for a year or two through mere happenstance, but you know even while that is happening that this too, shall fade. |
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I've said for years "Man, what's Dallas's plan here?" because Jerry just kept bringing the same guys back and paying them more until he couldn't anymore and the team finally collapsed. So in this regard, Mike Brown being cheap could've been useful in that they could've traded Higgins and tried to reload a bit around a Burrow/Chase core. But he decided instead to push his chips in for one last run. And make no mistake, this is it. They're not going to have a more talented roster next year than they have this year. All they can really hope for us Mims figuring things out and All/Burton becoming genuine threats. Then they can take the Higgins 'found' money and use it on the OL. But the defense is still declining so it's hard to see them truly improving. It just doesn't seem like Myles Murphy and Kris Jenkins are suddenly going to figure things out. |
They're basically in the spot where....well they need a "Chiefs 2022 draft" of McDuffie and such.
It's just hard. They're basically going thru what the NFL wants cycle wise. |
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Because isn't Buffalo going through it in their own right? And even when things go a little wonky for them, they don't do THIS sort of shit. Buffalo is retooling their defense and pass-catchers on the fly and they are seen as a contender and rock-solid club. It's not dissimilar to what Cincy is doing (in many ways its been MORE extreme, in fact) yet they don't appear to be on the verge of spiraling into the abyss, do they? |
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Walsh felt snubbed and after the decision, decided to take his talents elswhere (Stanford, i think?) and Brown felt betrayed so when Walsh was trying to get back in the league, Brown blackballed him and tried to get other owners to not hire him. He was a HoF coach but he was a petty prick. Walsh had designed the early WCO for Virgil Carter after Greg Cook got injured his rookie year (against the Chiefs--the first in a long line of "what if's"). Carter didn't nearly have the same arm as Cook, who Walsh said was the most talented QB he's ever seen, so they designed a short passing scheme to fit Carter's talents. The rest, as they say, is history. 3 things most people may not know. 1. The WCO was invented in Cincy by Bill Walsh who took it to SF and won rings with it. 2. The zone defense was invented in Cincy by Dick Lebeau who took it to Pitt and won a ring with it. 3. The no huddle offense was not necessary inveted but implimented and widely used in Cincy by Sam Wyche who lost a SB with it and Marv Levy stole the idea and lost a bunch more SBs with it as the K-gun in Buffalo. |
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The Bengals haven't. I guess. |
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Right before the opening game, with the Tee "injury" and the Ja'Marr drama it felt like there was this black cloud over the team and they've done nothing to change that. Soft, bad defense, bad play calling and an overinflated ego. The annoying thing is, the rest of the AFC won't pull away so the Bengals are still in contention for the playoffs, having to face the teams directly in front of them. We'll see if they have the balls and ability to get it turned around or if they're just soft bitches that talk too much. |
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They totally ****ed up the Higgins sitch and the defense is really far away from being competitive. Letting Bates and Reader walk were killers. They brought back Bell, but he looks done. Geno Stone was smoke and mirrors, Battle looks good but they won't give him significant snaps and their Dline can't get pressure other than Hendrickson. Wilson and Pratt are always out of position and are way overrated by PFF and the like. IDL might turn out ok with the rooks but Murphy looks like a bust, along with Ossai. |
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I think that the Bengals are a one dimensional team but that one dimension happens to be really really good. They could still eek out that 7th playoff spot, I don't believe in the broncos and I don't think like Indy gets it. I get the impression that you think a WC loss would be like an unsuccessful season and if I were a bengals fan I'd agree |
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That fluke little AFCC 2nd half against the Chiefs is the high point of their franchises existence. Think about it a second. It's true.
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They had a real squad but you have to start paying big money a some point and you make cuts. Mixing and Boyd were important. They have cut some defense as well. Team is not the same. Joe needed that max talent and now he doesn't have it.
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They had an SB in their reach and blew it. Defense gave up the lead and Joe failed.
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He's not a massive failure like Nat Hackett or Freddie Kitchens. I think he's just good enough to know how to not **** up anything good, but I just never see him coach his way out of sticky situations. I don't think he knows how. I wouldn't even go so far to call him the Robert Saleh of offense head coaches. He's just not good enough as a coordinator or offensive coach, and I think he's shitty resume prior to earning the head coaching job bears that out. |
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Keeping with the theme of recent conversation: It was vs Bill Walsh both times in addition to Montana the Great. Obviously couldn't stand that QB for many years, but time has helped me overcome that to appreciate Montana's greatness. In those years Bengals had #1 seeds hosting the AFCC, MVP player, and were fairly innovative. Bill Walsh and Montana |
ahahahaha
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When my boss asks if I can do extra without being paid extra <a href="https://t.co/HtGW2Pwrt7">pic.twitter.com/HtGW2Pwrt7</a></p>— Draft Guy Jared (@DraftGuyJared) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftGuyJared/status/1851725430773924105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
As of he has nothing. Chase, Higgins and Gosecki as pretty damn good. Joe isn't good enough to make up for lack of super weapons
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Macaulay Culkin dressed up as Joe Burrow for Halloween: <a href="https://t.co/P4Z3PBrWt8">pic.twitter.com/P4Z3PBrWt8</a></p>— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1851943703968944195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Separated at birth.
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Kinda disappointed he didn't shave the beard. If you're going for this costume you need to commit 100%.
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Burrow should go as Kevin McCallister
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"I love this group of guys. You always get excited about the idea of adding more but if we don't, we have the talent to win here and it's my job as a leader and the triggerman of this offense to ensure that we do..." Done and dusted. This stuff is so easy. And answering the way he did doesn't help ANYONE. Mike Brown isn't going to be publicly shamed by his QB. His teammates aren't going to be inspired by him going up there and smugging his way through answers. There's NOTHING gained by how he chose to handle that. And "Not my job..." is not a soundbite you really want to put in the wild. Because man, you KNOW that when he misses on a critical pass in the 4th quarter, someone like Stephen A Smith is gonna play that and say "No, Joe - THAT was your job. And you blew it..." It's just basic shit. |
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This is just a normal day. |
Maybe, just maybe….
Glass Joe is a soft headed little bitch |
Home Alone 3
Joe Burrow in the football stadium in Cincinnati on Super Bowl Sunday all by himself with Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern. ETA - Unfortunately lacks a little in plot. The Wet Bandits are there to steal a Super Bowl Trophy, but there aren't any. |
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You, win SBs. Me, lose SBs. You, 7-0 with an elite defense, a dynasty and a chance to threepeat. Me, 3-5 with a pile of shit defense, rapidly closing windows and a reeruned FO. You, Taylor Swift and all that entails. Me, MC and this bullshit. Lovely. |
Hey man, Macaulay Culkin is cool. He almost fell into the trap other child actors do of getting into hard drugs and dying of an STD in a dumpster at the age of 27, but he successfully avoided it. He's great on Red Letter Media.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow is *not* into Halloween <br><br>“I’m not into celebrating something, just to celebrate … I’m not a big dress-up guy.”<br><br>But we did find out what his favorite candy is:<br>- Chocolate<br>- Sour Patch Kids<br>- Starburst (orange)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WCPO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WCPO</a> <a href="https://t.co/WvqoBYI0Kd">pic.twitter.com/WvqoBYI0Kd</a></p>— Caleb Noe (@CalebNoeTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/CalebNoeTV/status/1851833668739686791?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Dude is an absolute curmudgeon. Definitely not a leader at all.
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How's he gonna spend $12K on an outfit that makes him look homeless or gay if he heads into the stadium dressed like Scooby Doo? He's too cool for that shit. |
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Aside from the horrendous s**t he wears contradicting the "I don't like fancy dress"...i hate to say i agree. Dressing up as an adult, nope. Halloween is nice with kids but tacky as f***
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I guess Burrow was dead-pan joking. He said he doesn’t like to dress up, but we know he enjoys doing that.
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Burrow is gay
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Open wide and suck on these for a little bit.
https://i.ibb.co/YhjFTv2/tQBR.jpg <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🥇 QB - Joe Burrow<br><br>The most valuable players at every position this season:<a href="https://t.co/06XKEAjd9Y">https://t.co/06XKEAjd9Y</a></p>— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Bengals/status/1852120998486651344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adjusted EPA Week 8 Leaderboard <a href="https://t.co/S0v907151B">pic.twitter.com/S0v907151B</a></p>— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1851601473123107005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
You'd think such high value would bring better rewards.
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