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DeezNutz 06-14-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNWildcats (Post 6820067)
I guess the thought is that the Big East isn't really much more stable than the Big 12. In an instant they could be losing multiple teams to the Big 10 and ACC. So the North schools aren't really on stable ground no matter where they turn.

KU to Pac-16 and MU to Big-16 probably would be the only real stable options over the long haul.

Good point.

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

If the Big-10 option is next to dead, I'd rather be in the Big East
That conference has no stakeholder. It'll be blown up next.

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6820074)
That conference has no stakeholder. It'll be blown up next.

Yeah, true enough.

Probably a case of me having tunnel vision in my desire to get the **** away from Longhorn cack; it's big.

ChiTown 06-14-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6820074)
That conference has no stakeholder. It'll be blown up next.

Gimme Cincy and Louisville outta that Conf and we'll call it good.

teedubya 06-14-2010 12:15 PM

This option sucks... no one will be able to point and laugh at the teams left behind.

vailpass 06-14-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNWildcats (Post 6820060)
Indeed!

Hey Bevo, you need someone to wash your car? Two coats of wax? No problem!

I admire those of you who are able to take that with a grain of salt. Perhaps a tube of anal-eze with every diluted check would help.

Mr. Laz 06-14-2010 12:16 PM

every conference can't just be blown up ... even with Mega Conferences there has to be so many left.

so the Big 10,Pac-10,ACC,SEC are going to be only BCS conferences left and have 30 teams each?

the Talking Can 06-14-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6820071)
That's as simple as it gets. Petro is huge dolt. Kinda like hawkchief.

Texas runs the show and they pay us pretty well to pick the cotton. I'll take that (un)certainty for another 5 years. On top of that, the Cats have no issues when it comes to puching the fuckers in the mouth.

correct

as a ku fan, it provides the platform for KU to operate it's crown jewel - the bball program...which routinely fists UT....

missouri seems to believe it would be a major power but for UT...to which I say....lol....go for it

i'm quite happy to give UT a cut

DaKCMan AP 06-14-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6820090)
every conference can't just be blown up ... even with Mega Conferences there has to be so many left.

so the Big 10,Pac-10,ACC,SEC are going to be only BCS conferences left and have 30 teams each?

Other conferences would exist, they just wouldn't get Championship consideration.

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820092)
missouri seems to believe it would be a major power but for UT...to which I say....lol....go for it

Disagree.

Missouri's position seems to be: we think we can be viable without Texas. Major power? Nah. Viable? Yes.

the Talking Can 06-14-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820054)
I thought the Pac-10 was a long shot for KU anyway, but the Big East would be preferable than continuing to be Texas's bitch.

Same for MU. If the Big-10 option is next to dead, I'd rather be in the Big East.

These schools don't need to exist solely to service Texas, and it's not going to get better. Only worse.

the big east would suck ass...i'd much rather play ou, osu, ut, ksu, mu

and ku football is screwed without texas to recruit

the Talking Can 06-14-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820099)
Disagree.

Missouri's position seems to be: we think we can be viable without Texas. Major power? Nah. Viable? Yes.

great...see yah

vailpass 06-14-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820092)
correct

as a ku fan, it provides the platform for KU to operate it's crown jewel - the bball program...which routinely fists UT....

missouri seems to believe it would be a major power but for UT...to which I say....lol....go for it

i'm quite happy to give UT a cut

And Stockholm Syndrome begins to settle in.:D

ChiTown 06-14-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820100)
the big east would suck ass...i'd much rather play ou, osu, ut, ksu, mu

and ku, ksu, mu, isu football is screwed without texas to recruit

fyp

the Talking Can 06-14-2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6820104)
And Stockholm Syndrome begins to settle in.:D

i haven't seen evidence you have the first clue what's going on....

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 12:22 PM

Some of the North schools are quite content, apparently, to play Ginger to Texas's Lester Diamond.

Where are you at? Tell me where you're at.
I'm here, baby! I've always been here.

RustShack 06-14-2010 12:25 PM

Some of Iowa States best recruites this year were from states we didn't play in this year... Your coaches don't suddenly loose their recruiting ties when they switch conferences..

Frazod 06-14-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6820062)
I'm happy. Frazod, are you happy too? :D

Whatever happens, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that it won't be good. I have no faith whatsover in MU's management, and believe that they will be unable to get us a fair deal anywhere. As I said earlier, these reeruns couldn't sell C4 to terrorists.

Maybe they'll surprise me. But they haven't yet.

healthpellets 06-14-2010 12:30 PM

so now that we're putting a Band-Aid on this gunshot wound, the North schools have a little more time to figure out a solid landing spot. maybe this time they'll keep their mouths shut.

vailpass 06-14-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820110)
i haven't seen evidence you have the first clue what's going on....

Why whateva' do you mean? Did you not see the article suggesting if UT stays they will demand a larger cut of the $ and rights to their own network?

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-14-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6820129)
Whatever happens, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that it won't be good. I have no faith whatsover in MU's management, and believe that they will be unable to get us a fair deal anywhere. As I said earlier, these reeruns couldn't sell C4 to terrorists.

Maybe they'll surprise me. But they haven't yet.

Yep, it's a big ol' clusterCassel.

KC_Connection 06-14-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6820071)
That's as simple as it gets. Petro is huge dolt. Kinda like hawkchief.

Texas runs the show and they pay us pretty well to pick the cotton. I'll take that (un)certainty for another 5 years. On top of that, the Cats have no issues when it comes to puching the fuckers in the mouth.

KU's best option is to stick with UT, as much as people might hate it. It's been that way since the beginning of this nonsense.

vailpass 06-14-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820112)
Some of the North schools are quite content, apparently, to play Ginger to Texas's Lester Diamond.

Where are you at? Tell me where you're at.
I'm here, baby! I've always been here.

ROFL Perfect!

mikeyis4dcats. 06-14-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6820129)
Whatever happens, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that it won't be good. I have no faith whatsover in MU's management, and believe that they will be unable to get us a fair deal anywhere. As I said earlier, these reeruns couldn't sell C4 to terrorists.

Maybe they'll surprise me. But they haven't yet.

welcome to the club. Practice this term: KITN. Kick In the Nuts.

KC_Connection 06-14-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820112)
Some of the North schools are quite content, apparently, to play Ginger to Texas's Lester Diamond.

Where are you at? Tell me where you're at.
I'm here, baby! I've always been here.

There is no better option out there compared to the Big 12 and sticking with Texas, as far as I can tell.

HolyHandgernade 06-14-2010 12:41 PM

Is there any lithium in the Flint Hills? I bet we could become a much bigger player if we found some lithium there! :D

Mr. Arrowhead 06-14-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6820165)
There is no better option out there compared to the Big 12 and sticking with Texas, as far as I can tell.

if KU really does have a offer to join the Pac 10, then i would take it run with it.

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 6820179)
if KU really does have a offer to join the Pac 10, then i would take it run with it.

Yeah, they have the same offer from the Pac-10 that MU has from the Big-10.

the Talking Can 06-14-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 6820179)
if KU really does have a offer to join the Pac 10, then i would take it run with it.

ku doesn't have an offer without UT....

Frazod 06-14-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 6820148)
welcome to the club. Practice this term: KITN. Kick In the Nuts.

I've definitely got that part down.

In hindsight, how the hell could any of us have actually believed it? ESPN REPORTS THAT CHARLIE BROWN IS ABOUT TO KICK THE FOOTBALL! Yeah, sure he is.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 12:57 PM

Utah has an invite to the Pac-10.

Pants 06-14-2010 01:01 PM

I have no issues with KU making 17mil while Texas makes 25mil. This isn't ****ing communism.

And failpussy needs to shut the **** up. Nobody cares about Iowa except for Iowanians and never will. Gee whiz, you got geographically placed in the B10, your superiority to everyone is simply overwhelming. Go back into obscurity you stupid ****ing troll. :)

teedubya 06-14-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820184)
Yeah, they have the same offer from the Pac-10 that MU has from the Big-10.

Sweet! **** you guys then!! We are OUT! Pac-16 baby!! Enjoy the Mountain West... Oh, er... um... cool. I guess we are staying in the Big 12! woo hoo!! ROFL

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6820085)
This option sucks... no one will be able to point and laugh at the teams left behind.

Wait three years, you'll get another chance.

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820190)
ku doesn't have an offer without UT....

Exactly.

Raiderhater 06-14-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6820045)
that's life

and petro is a dumbass for pretending otherwise

KU has no shot at the pac 10 without UT

and without UT there is no 'big 12'

you can accept it or go join the mountain ****ing losers conference...


Pretty well sums it up.

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6820207)
I have no issues with KU making 17mil while Texas makes 25mil. This isn't ****ing communism.

And failpussy needs to shut the **** up. Nobody cares about Iowa except for Iowanians and never will. Gee whiz, you got geographically placed in the B10, your superiority to everyone is simply overwhelming. Go back into obscurity you stupid ****ing troll. :)

Same here. I'll take the money that was going to be split between UNL and CU and go shopping at the basketball practice facility store.

Pants 06-14-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6820221)
Same here. I'll take the money that was going to be split between UNL and CU and go shopping at the basketball practice facility store.

Pretty much.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:12 PM

GabeDeArmond Sources tell PowerMizzou.com Mike Alden will meet with Tiger coaches this afternoon at 4 p.m.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-14-2010 01:13 PM

"Texas ****stick Conference"

Print it.

teedubya 06-14-2010 01:13 PM

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|Zach| 06-14-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6820236)
GabeDeArmond Sources tell PowerMizzou.com Mike Alden will meet with Tiger coaches this afternoon at 4 p.m.

Thats big.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6820242)
Thats big.

Yes (but in what way?) What do you figure?

Raiderhater 06-14-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6820240)
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Good stuff.

Al Bundy 06-14-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6820056)
and why are you involved in this discussion again?

Because I am a member of this message board.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:20 PM

gkketch

Source from one of the North schools tells me that their coaches have been told their school has been saved. Big 12 minus 2 living it seems. 2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

SPchief 06-14-2010 01:21 PM

So who moves north?

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 6820263)
So who moves north?

Nobody. It's round robin. play everybody. No CCG.

007 06-14-2010 01:22 PM

So what has happened today? Anything?

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 01:24 PM

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com...6132101-01.jpg

We finished...all over your schools.

HolyHandgernade 06-14-2010 01:25 PM

If you have a ten team league, why do you have to have divisions?

WilliamTheIrish 06-14-2010 01:25 PM

And they'll give us all a warm towel to clean up with.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-14-2010 01:27 PM

not so fast, still talk of maintaining the CCG for tv and revenue....NCAA waiver to allow it.

teedubya 06-14-2010 01:31 PM

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1338/xii.jpg

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:31 PM

WhitlockJason Paging Joe Schad. Please report to the white courtesy phone and bring your playbook and ESPN photo ID... If Texas stays, Schad must go.

ROFL

Reerun_KC 06-14-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6820184)
Yeah, they have the same offer from the Pac-10 that MU has from the Big-10.

so the Deal is Done?

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6820298)

Put dollar signs in that white area. They will be coughing it up if this deal goes through.

Al Bundy 06-14-2010 01:33 PM

Keitz is loving the idea... me thinks he's a Texas stroker...

007 06-14-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6820311)
Keitz is loving the idea... me thinks he's a Texas stroker...

what idea?

Al Bundy 06-14-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6820317)
what idea?

The proposed deal.

DeezNutz 06-14-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6820311)
Keitz is loving the idea... me thinks he's a Texas stroker...

He's a KSU fan, now saved from the MWC. Of course he loves the new Big Texas.

Apparently, we all should love it, too, because it's all we got.

007 06-14-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6820320)
The proposed deal.

Which is? When I came into the thread there were over 400 new posts since yesterday. I'm not going through all of them to find it.

Bambi 06-14-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6820306)
Put dollar signs in that white area. They will be coughing it up if this deal goes through.

hahaha, Nebraska is going to not only going to make less money in the big 10 but now they're gonna have to pay a penalty for leaving the big 12.

teedubya 06-14-2010 01:41 PM

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/1338/xii.jpg

DaKCMan AP 06-14-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6820325)
Which is? When I came into the thread there were over 400 new posts since yesterday. I'm not going through all of them to find it.

Lazy.

007 06-14-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6820342)
Lazy.

Damn straight.:D

Mojo Jojo 06-14-2010 01:44 PM

I just spoke with a friend in the A&M Athletic Department, and he said while nothing is "official" the talk in the office is that 10 team Big 12 is going to happen.

luv 06-14-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 6820278)
If you have a ten team league, why do you have to have divisions?

This. I thought you had to have 12 to have divisions/conference championship game.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6820349)
Damn straight.:D

In essence...

The proposed deal will keep the remaining 10 Big XII schools together.

Texas would get a lot of money.

The rest of the schools would not get as much, but more than they are currently getting.

tk13 06-14-2010 01:46 PM

ESPN.com has switched to the Texas is staying rumor. That'd be great because then the Big 10 will have 12 teams and the Big 12 will have 10. Mass hysteria.

alnorth 06-14-2010 01:48 PM

Isn't the Big 10 making about $20M per school? With all the screaming and regret over the Big 12 shackled to a paltry contract, I'd think we'd be really happy to see us suddenly making very close to what the Big 10 schools make. A school like KU would likely be making more than almost every Big 10 school when looking at all revenue sources combined.

Why is this a bad thing? Yeah Texas gets a few measly extra million, but we're talking the other 9 losing out on roughly half a million each. If anything, this locks up Texas since they wouldn't get more elsewhere.

Bob Dole 06-14-2010 01:48 PM

The continued talk from Texas schools of additional "research opportunities" is a little dumbfounding.

Any opportunities that are there with schools outside of the Big 12 are there now, since research has absolutely ZERO to do with NCAA conference affiliation. Most serious researchers at the university level would probably struggle to even tell you WHICH freaking NCAA conference their school is a part of. As someone who works for the A&M System, Bob Dole can call up anyone, in any NCAA conference (or NAIA, or whatever the hell else, for that matter), and propose collaborative research projects.

And Bob Dole finds it difficult to believe that joining the Mega-Whatever 26 is going to provide any additional connectivity/bandwidth benefits beyond that which every Texas Big 12 school already has with LEARN. The continued mention of such is approaching the point of being insulting.

alnorth 06-14-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6820354)
This. I thought you had to have 12 to have divisions/conference championship game.

Nothing is written in stone. Some big 12 coaches actually prefer not having a FB championship game, but if they want one, the conference can probably get a waiver from the NCAA.

007 06-14-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6820360)
In essence...

The proposed deal will keep the remaining 10 Big XII schools together.

Texas would get a lot of money.

The rest of the schools would not get as much, but more than they are currently getting.

Thanks Saul. So really nothing much will change for the other 9 schools other than a little more money.

Wonder what the name of the conference will change to. Something tells me the Big 10 will keep that name even if they expand to 14.

007 06-14-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6820378)
Nothing is written in stone. Some big 12 coaches actually prefer not having a FB championship game, but if they want one, the conference can probably get a waiver from the NCAA.

I would be all for losing that stupid game.

HolyHandgernade 06-14-2010 01:52 PM

Absolute Rumor Warning: If you don't like them don't read it.

Call it the Texas Counter Strike

Conference is saved (although still wary about intentions of Mizzou and A&M, more Mizzou now than A&M). Big XII counter by going after the Arizona schools and capturing the Phoenix market to guard against possible loss of KC and St. Louis markets. Eyes later expansion toward USC and UCLA as PAC continues to lose out on viewership in western time zone, mediocre teams, and crippled USC sanctions.

Frazod 06-14-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6820354)
This. I thought you had to have 12 to have divisions/conference championship game.

Generally, it'll work like this.

Texas will finish 11-1, the one loss coming against Kansas State.
Oklahoma will finish 11-1, the one loss coming against Texas.
Kansas State will finish 1-11, since they can't beat anybody but Texas.
Kansas and Missouri will finish with identical 7-5 records, but Missouri wins head-to-head. Nevertheless, Missouri gets relegated to the Poinsettia Bowl and loses by three touchdowns to Ball State.

FML

ChiefsCountry 06-14-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 6820372)
The continued talk from Texas schools of additional "research opportunities" is a little dumbfounding.

The research opportunity is a piece of that CIC fund that the Big Ten has. Just more cash graping.

Pants 06-14-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6820378)
Nothing is written in stone. Some big 12 coaches actually prefer not having a FB championship game, but if they want one, the conference can probably get a waiver from the NCAA.

Making Wickedson right all along. :)

007 06-14-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6820390)
Generally, it'll work like this.

Texas will finish 11-1, the one loss coming against Kansas State.
Oklahoma will finish 11-1, the one loss coming against Texas.
Kansas State will finish 1-11, since they can't beat anybody but Texas.
Kansas and Missouri will finish with identical 7-5 records, but Missouri wins head-to-head. Nevertheless, Missouri gets relegated to the Poinsettia Bowl and loses by three touchdowns to Ball State.

FML

ROFL


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