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O.city 08-10-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17050296)
That's why they're keeping him this year. He's still very good. But once these bigger guys hit 30 you just never know. If you trade him next year 30 a team might be getting a year, maybe 2 (doubt it) of his prime.

He's at that point where he's at the top. Only where to go now is down

Or you know, stay on top for a couple years?

Bowser 08-10-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17050269)
Overpaying players on the verge of the precipice is worse.

It's a good thing Jones hasn't shown any signs of being that guy.

-King- 08-10-2023 08:48 AM

Why was no one advocating trading him before the draft of his age was such a big deal and his impact apparently isn't as great as many of us thought?

AdolfOliverBush 08-10-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17050305)
Yes, they're all good players.

Jones or no Jones, they aren't all staying here.

Agreed, but I wouldn't want to lose any of them due to signing a guy who habitually vanishes for long stretches in non-contract years.

RunKC 08-10-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17050288)
Ok? So when Mahomes still had to play a year of his rookie deal?

What's the difference in position the chiefs are in now as opposed to other teams with top paid QBs?

He purposefully took less money to help keep Chris but now we're getting into the meat of the contract. It's also why Florio has been endlessly bitching.

You aren't looking at his age. You think Veach is comfortable paying a 30+ year old that big of a cap hit? Bc if he gives him this deal that's what will happen. He probably wants to structure it properly.

Veach has only paid one 30+ guy a 3rd contract (Kelce) and it's bc it's a bargain compared to guys like Chris wanting almost 3X as much.

Veach made a big mistake with Frank Clark's contract. I think he wants his structure to give him an out in case of injury or the very real chance that Chris Jones declines in year 2 or 3 of the deal.

O.city 08-10-2023 08:50 AM

The Sneed talk is pretty much a non starter. He's hitting FA, the Chiefs have that decision baked in. I doubt anyone around here is gonna wanna pay him....JC Jackson money? I mean, he'll ask for that especially if he hits FA.

Creed is probably gonna reset the C market at 16/17 million a year. I'd guess we get the same hoopla around here as we usually do on that

Then you get Smith probably wanting 14 or so a year.

Red Dawg 08-10-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17050309)
Why was no one advocating trading him before the draft of his age was such a big deal and his impact apparently isn't as great as many of us thought?

I never said trade him but I did say I wasn't sure we could pay him what he wants and that's correct. I didn't think he wouldn't show though.

Jones is getting bad advice. No team is giving him that insane AD deal at his age.

BleedingRed 08-10-2023 08:53 AM

If someone offered two 1sts and 3rd would yall do it?

O.city 08-10-2023 08:53 AM

If Jones hits the market as a FA, I'd imagine he'd get 30 a year.

O.city 08-10-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17050324)
If someone offered two 1sts and 3rd would yall do it?

Before the draft? Sure.

Now? Probably not.

I don't know what those 1's are. You end up with pick 29 this year, 27 next year and an end of the 3rd rounder.

That do it for you?

Red Dawg 08-10-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17050324)
If someone offered two 1sts and 3rd would yall do it?

Hell yes

O.city 08-10-2023 08:55 AM

You don't do it now because you don't know what the picks will be. Look at the Raiders and the Khalil Mack trade.

BleedingRed 08-10-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17050326)
Before the draft? Sure.

Now? Probably not.

I don't know what those 1's are. You end up with pick 29 this year, 27 next year and an end of the 3rd rounder.

That do it for you?

Yeah unless we roll the dice, and trade him to someone like Texans or Patriots and we potentially end up with a top 10 pick.

Look I'm just trying to get Harrison Jr on this team

O.city 08-10-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17050332)
Yeah unless we roll the dice, and trade him to someone like Texans or Patriots and we potentially end up with a top 10 pick.

Look I'm just trying to get Harrison Jr on this team

We can find great WR's later in the draft.

If they get a top 10 pick, you can pencil in a LT.

IowaHawkeyeChief 08-10-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17050309)
Why was no one advocating trading him before the draft of his age was such a big deal and his impact apparently isn't as great as many of us thought?

because he said he wanted to be a Chief and play for no other franchise... He can be the 2nd highest paid DT all time and make $2-$3 million more than the 3rd highest paying guy, but he is now asking for $31m. If he was demanding that before the draft, most would have been on board with that decision, however, it may not yield what many think. You may get a 2nd and a later pick, but your not getting the Tyreek haul. We have control for 2 more years, but next year would be tough without restructuring with the large cap # under the franchise tag. This puts all the pressure on Jones to get a deal done. He loses over $1 mil if he doesn't report this week for missing Sunday's game.


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