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MarkDavis'Haircut 08-07-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17046332)
Interesting from Peter King’s column today:

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...mia-peter-king

King is a fool on NFL stuff and now he is embarrassing himself on the NCAA.

The NCAA didn't give up. The Supreme Court decided against them.

There was nothing the NCAA could do. Same deal with the NIL stuff. People wanted athletes to make money and have a free transfer. Now they are mad at the NCAA for giving them what they wanted. Hypocrites.

And guess what because of that Court decision, viewers instead of only being able to watch two or three games on Saturday, now can watch dozens of games. It is magnificent.

Eleazar 08-07-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17046332)
Interesting from Peter King’s column today:

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...mia-peter-king

These media types like to complain about gambling's effect on sports, even as the organizations they work for all transition their sports coverage to focus on sports gambling as much as the sport itself.

FloridaMan88 08-07-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17046365)
King is a fool on NFL stuff and now he is embarrassing himself on the NCAA.

The NCAA didn't give up. The Supreme Court decided against them.

There was nothing the NCAA could do. Same deal with the NIL stuff. People wanted athletes to make money and have a free transfer. Now they are mad at the NCAA for giving them what they wanted. Hypocrites.

And guess what because of that Court decision, viewers instead of only being able to watch two or three games on Saturday, now can watch dozens of games. It is magnificent.

He’s also relaying what NFL coaches/executives are telling him.

displacedinMN 08-07-2023 10:31 AM

I dont think the NCAA has ever really had control of college football.

Recruiting, rules of the game, smaller D1AA-D2-D3....yes...

TV contracts, streaming, conference alignment, bowls...no way.

KingPriest2 08-07-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17046410)
I dont think the NCAA has ever really has control of college football.

Recruiting, rules of the game, smaller D1AA-D2-D3....yes...

TV contracts, streaming, conference alignment, bowls...no way.

Yes on tv. That’s what led to the CFA and the 1984 SC decision. That always had control over TV

BWillie 08-07-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17046367)
These media types like to complain about gambling's effect on sports, even as the organizations they work for all transition their sports coverage to focus on sports gambling as much as the sport itself.

The entire worry about gambling now is hilarious to me. People are all bent about some players gambling about $4500 over 20 games...and they did it on LEGAL gambling networks that now make it easier than ever to catch them. In the past do you think they just didn't gamble? Hell no. They just did it on offshore books where nobody had any idea. TBH kids should probably just do that if they want to be safe.

BWillie 08-07-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17046410)
I dont think the NCAA has ever really had control of college football.

Recruiting, rules of the game, smaller D1AA-D2-D3....yes...

TV contracts, streaming, conference alignment, bowls...no way.

The end game is to get rid of the NCAA. The B1G and SEC will be the new NCAA. Once the end is in sight blue blood basketball teams like Duke, Kansas, UCONN will have huge value as they will work to have their own post season basketball tournament. NCAA Tournament is really the only reason the NCAA is still alive and kicking. Without it they are dead. B1G and SEC need to figure out how to have their own tournament that is better.

Boiled Chicken 08-07-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17046410)
I dont think the NCAA has ever really had control of college football.

Recruiting, rules of the game, smaller D1AA-D2-D3....yes...

TV contracts, streaming, conference alignment, bowls...no way.

They killed SMU

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-07-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17046410)
I dont think the NCAA has ever really had control of college football.

Recruiting, rules of the game, smaller D1AA-D2-D3....yes...

TV contracts, streaming, conference alignment, bowls...no way.

College football was always out of control. There were reform efforts in the 1920s and 1930s that were generally ignored. Some universities like Chicago did shutter their football programs and other schools like Pitt drastically cut back athletic aid. Much to their school's suffering.

The book "Shake Down the Thunder" covers the topic. It is a fascinating read.

The NCAA controlled television rights until 1984. The ballooning we see today is a result of that removal. It has been good and bad for the game.

FloridaMan88 08-07-2023 12:05 PM

Arizona’s President already salivating over the KU-Arizona basketball match-up…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona AD Dave Heeke says “the group up north” will continue to be UA’s biggest rival. <br><br>UA president Robert Robbins is looking forward to the Arizona-Kansas battles in basketball in the Big 12.<br><br>“That’s gonna be an intense rivalry.” <br><br>Is KU the new UCLA? <br><br>“They’re different.” <a href="https://t.co/JMAi95zF79">pic.twitter.com/JMAi95zF79</a></p>&mdash; Justin Spears (@JustinESports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinESports/status/1688606011710447616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

displacedinMN 08-07-2023 12:17 PM

I still hate Arizona for stealing Lute Oleson. Although he knew how to choke it in the first round.

Hate Wichita State too.

FloridaMan88 08-07-2023 01:45 PM

Somehow I don’t see this appeasing Florida State and Clemson.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: In the next 24 hours, there’s two calls for the ACC to vet and have early exploratory discussions on the potential addition of Cal and Stanford. One is for ACC athletic directors and the other for the league&#39;s presidents and chancellors.</p>&mdash; Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1688627770987794433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 08-07-2023 02:31 PM

The Atlantic Coast Conference.

Is looking for members out of California.

Yeah, that's gonna fix everything.

This really does seem likely to eventually settle into a couple powerhouse football conferences and a couple powerhouse basketball conferences.

But honestly, the NIL and free transfer stuff has made it a lot harder to give a shit about any of the conferences/rivalries.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-07-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17046767)
Somehow I don’t see this appeasing Florida State and Clemson.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: In the next 24 hours, there’s two calls for the ACC to vet and have early exploratory discussions on the potential addition of Cal and Stanford. One is for ACC athletic directors and the other for the league&#39;s presidents and chancellors.</p>&mdash; Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1688627770987794433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The ACC needs powerhouse programs on the field not academic giants.

ROYC75 08-08-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17046767)
Somehow I don’t see this appeasing Florida State and Clemson.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: In the next 24 hours, there’s two calls for the ACC to vet and have early exploratory discussions on the potential addition of Cal and Stanford. One is for ACC athletic directors and the other for the league&#39;s presidents and chancellors.</p>&mdash; Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1688627770987794433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OK, so this is just stupid for the ACC. So what will become of the Pac 4?

I read a story today that said SDSU & Ore. State is still talking to the B12 about future acceptance.

I don't see this either, if the B12 wanted CBB, UConn & Gonzaga would be better but that has an unbalanced CFB schedule. Scheduling really comes into play with a larger conferences.


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