You've been pimping Smith, to a fault, for months. We're still 8 weeks from the Combines and Smith's team was less than impressive for the second half of the season (and Bowl game).

Smith may be the #1 player taken in the draft but if he's not, I won't give a ****, especially if Andy Reid is at the helm.

Okay, WTF? Why in the **** are we arguing the etymology of Koalas and Pandas?

Insisting pandas are not bears cannot be allowed to stand. This is the hill I will die on.

A lack of Reid updates, Id say.

It appears that Reid can coach up a quarterback. If true, it opens up a wealth of possibilities both in the draft and otherwise.

Based on his track record with QBs, that's one thing I would be pretty darn comfortable with.

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I thought Reid was a Walrus? WTF is going on?

Jeff Skversky ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>JeffSkversky
<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 102, 102);">@</s>SaveOurChiefs my sources close to Andy Reid tell me he's going to take the Kansas City Chiefs job. Just a matter of time before it's done

Reuben Frank ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>RoobCSN
The latest on Andy Reid: The two sides talked very late into the night and settled on many key issues but the deal has not been finalized.

IMO, it's WAY too early to make any kind of determination about any college player.

There is no Andrew Luck in 2013. There is no Robert Griffin III in 2013. Hell, there may not be a Ryan Tannehill or Russell Wilson in 2013.

I just feel it's way too soon to fall in love with some guy that may not be a legitimate NFL Franchise QB.

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Cardinals source say team was informed of pending deal between Reid and Chiefs. They were already moving on.

Holmgren is the Walrus. I just don't get this "Reid is the Walrus" crap.

that's hillarious

But can he coach up a Panda?

:hmmm:

That's the real question.

Maybe he's the egg man

Are you here to troll, or discuss football? For the third time, which available HC candidate would you choose and why? Doesn't seem much to ask from somebody who claims to know all.

I dont know about that. I think one of either Wilson or Smith will separate themselves by the draft.

Gota be better with a Panda under center then Cassel/Quinn

It's just an opinion I have. I say Geno Smith has the tools to be an elite NFL QB. With the help of Clay, youtube, and analyses from others, I like to think I've made a pretty convincing case for this over the months. Tons of smart football-informed posters agree with me on Geno. Many of them are way smarter than I am about football.

If you don't like Smith, then you can take solace in the fact that you were right if he does not become the elite guy I think he can be. But for ****'s sake, get out of me with this "There will be hell to pay" nonsense.

There wasn't hell to pay when we had our come to Jesus moment for all the Cassel supporters. Why the **** should people get pissed off at the initial supporters for being the first ones to spot a LEGIT attempt at a ****ing franchise QB?

They both look like Walrus' but Craig Stadler was the original.

That Philly poster said that the reporter there that talked with Reid asked him about QB and Reid said WE need to find one...the reporter followed with "that's not easy"

Reid replied with "they have the top pick"

How fitting that on he 30th anniversary of the last time we took a first round quarterback, we finally take another shot.

When we were talking about other coaches, I didn't want to hear about taking 2qbs early, but with Reid, I'd be fine taking a second QB in the third round.

No one knows how these QBs will turn out. Were Dan Marino, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, etc ELITE prospects? No

I hope you're right. I've seen nothing from either that makes me believe they'll be special in the NFL.

Again, admittedly, I haven't seen much but what I've seen is far from impressive.

Again, I hope I'm wrong.

Btw another name brought up that could be a GM option is Tom Gamble of the 49ers. Most bring up Heckert and Dorsey but supposedly Gamble is a option for Reid also.

At least you can admit that you haven't seen much of them. Better than Blackbob spewing all that "game film" bullshit

There was an article or tweet about that earlier that he was in the mix. Could have been a 1,000 posts ago, I don't remember. Don't remember what the source was either, so your welcome.

Yeah, let's compare Dan Marino, who was taken 30 years ago, and Tom Brady, who was taken 13 years ago, to 2013, where everyone and their mother has a draft website, complete with videos and summations.

:facepalm:

The bottom line is that there are VERY few under-the-radar guys left. Wilson was shunned because of his height but he was still a 3rd round QB, just like Joe Montana and Jeff Hostetler, two Super Bowl winners.

Puuuuulease let this happen.

One thing's for sure no more ****ing OMAHA OMAHA then run into a brick wall

Yes i know man but im talking prospect wise. Not what they did in the NFL those are 2 different animals

Dorsey really intrigues me. Hope we can at least interview him.

LMAO @ your sig

I can respect that opinion to an extent. It's when you get tards like TEX who bitch nonstop, "Waaaaaah we missed Andrew Luck! Why is it always the Chiefs? Booo hooooo"

That pussy shit is annoying as hell and just plain ****ing dumb. If TEX would sew his vagina shut and spend his available free time actually WATCHING guys in the 2013 QB class, he would see that there are plenty of excellent starters available to a team. ESPECIALLY a team drafting at #1 overall.

There's no Luck or RGIII? Guess what? There hardly ever is. If these TEX morons would shut the hell up and see that actually in terms of history, this is a very strong class of QBs, maybe they wouldn't sound so stupid and pitiful.

But that's what this Chiefs franchise has done to a lot of good men. Turned them into vaginas. Ah well.

Honestly i dont care who the GM is. Its about the coach, last time i worried about the GM it turned out like a dumpster fire

I saw the K-State game, the Bowl game and another game (OU, maybe? OSU?). I don't have the DTV College Game Day package (or whatever it's called now) because I'm tied up with a newborn this year.

But what I've seen hasn't impressed me. Again, I hope I'm wrong.

http://www.news-press.com/usatoday/article/1808309

Ex-Eagle Jeremiah Trotter blasts Andy Reid as a coach

Eagles, though all indications are that he's close to becoming the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Suffice to say, if former Eagles linebacker Jeremiah Trotter was advising the Chiefs (and why would he?), Kansas City might want to reconsider.

Here's what Trotter, who played seven seasons under Reid in Philadelphia, had to say during a roundtable on 97.5 FM The Fanatic radio station, via philly.com: "If it came down to both teams were even, talent-wise, I think the opponent's team would win if it came down to coaching. Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games, man, a lot of big games. Time outs, running the football, you know."

Trotter wasn't done there, either.

He added that Reid's in-game coaching decisions also indirectly affected games -- as in how it messed with the psyche of the defense and defensive coaches.

"As a defense, we understood we passed the ball too much," Trotter said. "You know, there's times we're sitting over there like, 'Man, listen. Just get us a couple of first downs so we can get a break.' And I'm sure it frustrated Jim Johnson also."

Trotter also rated Reid's coaching abilities on a scale of one to 10.

"On a scale of one to 10, 10 being great," Trotter said, "I give (Reid) a seven-and-a-half or eight as a coach."

In that case, never mind the Chiefs reconsidering. They definitely could use a "seven-and-a-half or eight" after the 2-14 season they just experienced.

You are entitled to your opinion. Its much better than the idiots who obviously just align themselves with the talking heads.

Never have i seen a future draft more impacted by the former years players. I honestly think if it wasn't for luck and the success of these rookie qbs, people would feel much more comfortable with taking either at number 1.

All ill say is ive watched enough of both to be impressed. I think particularly with Geno. I think the combine and perhaps senior bowl will only improve his stock.

Im still trying to figure out what the hell it is

There's qualities i like about him. Arm strength, accuracy, his IQ and his ability to read presnap defenses and audibling. Now he hasnt been good the past few games. I still think he's the best prospect. PROSPECT. I dont know how good he'll be. But we got to take best QB prospect. I also have been impressed with some of his articles about him

Why not use a friendly lookin one ay?LMAO

http://ct.fra.bz/i57/5/10/17/f_a1e3fd9366.jpg

What's funny is Trotter was one of those many Eagles players who seemed to be a lot more successful in Philly than anywhere else. Jim Johnson surely had a lot to do with that, but still.

I have a feeling Wilson is going to emerge from the pack at the combine.

I do like Tyler Wilson but his concussion history scares me. Especially with no 1 overall

First off, I'm not trying to compare the 2012 draft class to any other prospects. That may turn out to be the best class since 1983 or maybe even the best class, ever.

Secondly, as I stated earlier, my viewing time has been limited this year. But every time I've watched Tennessee on CBS or WV on Fox, I've been unimpressed. I saw a bad Arkansas game in like September or October, so I'm far from an expert.

But unfortunately, I seem to turn on the TV at the wrong time. Maybe I should boycott the Combines.

:D

But mine looks mean and tough. Cant have a cute lil one like that

Did anybody confirm who the actual QBs at the Senior Bowl are going to be? Was the list posted the other day official or a guess?

Will he participate in the Senior Bowl? That seems rather risky because if he has a bad game, his stock will surely plummet.

Trotter was not a big fan of this organization as a whole. I happen to be a huge fan of Trotter. He says what he feels. He's retired now so he doesn't have to be politically correct for the locker room.

There is no question Andy Reid is going to upset every poster here on this board at times. He will drive many of you out of your minds at times. There will be topics saying he should have never been hired, and there will be topics blasting him after games for his flaws. But at the end of the day, if he makes the Chiefs competitive, you'll appreciate him when you cool down and the anger subsides.

Not sure if anything has happened since, but theres this: http://www.seniorbowl.com/files/SB%2...S%20122812.pdf

Geno has to be in Senior Bowl he's not an elite prospect nor has played well down the stretch

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

Andy reid has talked to 4 coaches bout coming w him. Doug Pederson is highest profile. Eagles won't let Duce Staley leave. J castillo going

A list the other day had him not playing in it. Landry Jones, the kid from FSU, and two others. Seems like their should be 6 in the game but only 4 were listed.

I kinda like Manuel as late rd prospect if we dont take Bray in rd 3 or 4

Thanks.

So is that our DC?

EJ Manuel, to me, is an intriguing late round prospect, especially with Reid at the helm.

I think Landry was the only other one added, at least so far anyway.

He will be your offensive line coach. He is a very good one. You should be very excited to get him. I would say he is top 4 or 5 in the NFL.

Castillo will be Oline coach

And Yes something about Manuel I like. Kinda like a Culpepper

fuck, Trotter is going to cry and then rate him a 7-8 range as a coach? Hell we been getting 4-5's at best as head coaches for the last 5+ years!

Bray in the 3rd or 4th?

You hoping he gets caught with a kilo?

3/4 is probably about where Manuel will be going.

Manual, that's it. Yeah I like the look of him. 4 bowl wins has to count for something. To be honest I wasn't really sure how I felt about taking one early and then later but with Reid I feel more comfortable. Not sure if that's what you meant or just Manual. Either way I think with Reid here the idea of the other QBs late becomes a little more realistic.

I just dont see how you can be down on this hire? Who is better? Realistically because get Cowher and Gruden out of your mind

I get McNabb, not Culpepper.

Well whatever 3 or 4 i want Manuel or Bray


Bray will slide because of his off field issues. Like Houston

Oh yeah he is the guy the moved over to DC but was originally offense.

He's way bigger than McNabb is why I say Culpepper

lol

Juan Castillo is actually a good coach besides what everyone knows him for and that is that DC mess/experiment

That Bray tat should cost him a round in a fair world.

Who are you talking to?

3 inches taller, same weight.

Somehow, I get the feeling he won't measure out at 6'5 in February.

Yeah I figured it out. Or that is to say someone else did.

im so happy no more Jim Zorn stupid ball drills, no more Brian DaBoll fat gilligan island hats, no more Mo Carthon port o potty nonsense, no more Gary Gibbs being useless

exciting times when all these turds are flushed

Story about koalas:

When I was a kid (around 16 years old) my folks took my sister and I on a trip to Hawaii. We signed up for a rainforest bike ride through some of the nature reserves on Oahu.

Our bike guide gave us these motorcycle helmets to wear. All of them had all kinds of deep scratches and marks all over the place. Some guy finally asked what we were all thinking, "Umm... do people wipe out a lot on this trail? Is this safe?" The bike guide assured us the trail was safe enough for any amateur rider to take easily.

It wasn't until we got deep into the nature reserve when our bike guide pointed out to us a bunch of koalas sleeping in the trees. "We're entering the portion of the forest with the eucalyptus trees. They were planted here from Australia at the request of the US government decades ago. When they realized that eucalyptus trees depend on koalas pruning them for survival, they brought over koalas from Australia. Thankfully, the accidental additions to Oahu's ecosystem have not upset the balance..."

Now riding directly in front of me was a lady probably in her 50s I'd say. Looked physically fit. While the bike guide was continuing to talk about the eucalyptus trees, a koala went WUMP! and fell right on top of the bitch in front of me like a goddamn bomb. She landed a good 5 feet away from her bike, and the koala landed in the other direction, made a squeal of some type, and scampered off into the bushes.

The tour guide stopped, made sure the lady was alright, and said, "Oh, yes. Now you all know where the large scratches on the helmets come from."

Koala bears snr

Hell, I thought you were talking about Herm until the last part of the paragraph.

What's the story about defensive coordinator?

Reid only had tremendous success when he had really good DCs.

Do you use the word "tremendous" in every day life or just when discussing football?

Er, what?

Do we have any bead on who the DC is going to be?

LMAO

The only people that I've ever heard use the word "tremendous" are football coaches and players.

It's an outdated and ridiculous word.