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New World Order 01-03-2016 07:52 AM

With the exception of a possible RDA vs Conor matchup, Silva-Bisping is the fight I am most hyped for this year.

BigCatDaddy 01-03-2016 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11992393)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you ain&#39;t a <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc">@ufc</a> fan now I don&#39;t know when you will be...what a main event <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC195?src=hash">#UFC195</a>!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/Ruthless_RL">@Ruthless_RL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CarlosCondit">@CarlosCondit</a> <a href="https://t.co/9Ls6wrWgoj">pic.twitter.com/9Ls6wrWgoj</a></p>&mdash; Shane Victorino (@ShaneVictorino) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneVictorino/status/683520276059979776">January 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Need to give that cage an assist for keeping Condit on his feet.

Wut?
Kept moving his head and tried to return fire. Leaned back on th3 cage? Your first UFC bro?

alnorth 01-03-2016 10:57 AM

I came up with an idea for revamping how MMA fights are scored, but I then thought of an obvious fatal flaw right when I was about to post it. I was going to argue that since this is a fight, not a game, we should do away with scores and the judges should each simply vote for a winner at the end based on who would be more likely to win the fight if we had unlimited rounds. The idea here is that the only reason we have judges at all is that we aren't going to wait all damn day for someone to drop, so we should decide who would have won if had had unlimited time.

The big problem with that idea is it would encourage slow, cautious fighting and defense. If you go for it and don't get it, then you don't want to be the fighter who is gassed and beat up. Fighters would probably just focus on not getting hit and not using much energy.

We're probably institutionally stuck with the 10 point system for a while, so I think the best solution is to strongly encourage judges to use scores other than 10-9 more often. If neither fighter did much, just make it a 10-10. You don't get 10-9 anymore unless you clearly won the round. What we would today call a 10-8, make that a 10-7, and lets have 10-8 more often for when a fighter didn't just win, but hurt the other fighter. This would probably result in more draws, but thats fine.

alnorth 01-04-2016 09:37 AM

Holly Holm signed a new multi-year deal with the UFC. Terms unknown, but I assume the UFC is giving her PPV points so she'll stop complaining about having to wait until UFC 200

alnorth 01-04-2016 11:09 PM

Holly's manager said that her next fight was part of the contract negotiation, and that the UFC would probably announce it sometime this week.

dlphg9 01-04-2016 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12000639)
Holly's manager said that her next fight was part of the contract negotiation, and that the UFC would probably announce it sometime this week.

Holly v. Floyd!?

Make it happen Dana.

raybec 4 01-04-2016 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11998404)
Holly Holm signed a new multi-year deal with the UFC. Terms unknown, but I assume the UFC is giving her PPV points so she'll stop complaining about having to wait until UFC 200

I really can't argue with her on that. She's the champ but they're trying to make her wait for Rousey's movie shoots and schedule a rematch. The UFC wouldn't make any other champ wait like that. The belt is her's and she has a right to earn

alnorth 01-05-2016 11:05 PM

Here's a pretty cool feel-good story

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/01/how-nei...n-maia-seminar

New World Order 01-05-2016 11:24 PM

Rousey wants to put off another Holm ass kicking as long as possible.

alnorth 01-07-2016 12:36 PM

Couple bits of news: Holly Holm will not have to wait for Ronda. She's going to fight again before UFC 200

Also, if Conor McGregor does win the 155 pound title (which is a very big if), the UFC will let him be a 2-division champion as long as he keeps both belts active. Dana White said they would normally not allow someone to do that, but Conor has always been active and he promised he would try to defend both belts twice a year each.

BigCatDaddy 01-07-2016 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12005160)
Couple bits of news: Holly Holm will not have to wait for Ronda. She's going to fight again before UFC 200

Also, if Conor McGregor does win the 155 pound title (which is a very big if), the UFC will let him be a 2-division champion as long as he keeps both belts active. Dana White said they would normally not allow someone to do that, but Conor has always been active and he promised he would try to defend both belts twice a year each.

Ill be pissee if they give Holm anyone other than Tate.

Jerm 01-07-2016 01:34 PM

LOL Conor runs shit...Dana and co. know he's the new cash cow.

alnorth 01-07-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 12005300)
LOL Conor runs shit...Dana and co. know he's the new cash cow.

Funny you said that. Dana White said that a big reason why he's confident that Conor would keep both belts active and fight often, is that Conor "definitely loves money"

alnorth 01-07-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12005297)
Ill be pissee if they give Holm anyone other than Tate.

Nunes has been campaigning hard on twitter, but she'd be like my 3rd option after Tate and Zingano

alnorth 01-07-2016 04:27 PM

The NSAC has put a possible settlement with Nick Diaz on their agenda for their Tuesday meeting.

chop 01-07-2016 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12005297)
Ill be pissee if they give Holm anyone other than Tate.

Zingano beat both Tate and Nunes so she probably deserves it more IMO.

BigCatDaddy 01-07-2016 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 12005947)
Zingano beat both Tate and Nunes so she probably deserves it more IMO.

Maybe I over stated. I just want a top fighter and not a gimme.

alnorth 01-07-2016 09:20 PM

Breaking News:

UFC 197 in Vegas 3/5/16

RDA vs McGregor

Holm vs Tate

Jerm 01-07-2016 09:33 PM

Holy shit...thought for sure they'd save both of those for UFC 200...

BigCatDaddy 01-07-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12006136)
Breaking News:

UFC 197 in Vegas 3/5/16

RDA vs McGregor

Holm vs Tate

Striking while the iron is hot. Mcgregor/RDA is a toss up. I think Holms reign is short lived.

alnorth 01-07-2016 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12006188)
Striking while the iron is hot. Mcgregor/RDA is a toss up. I think Holms reign is short lived.

Things get real interesting if Tate wins. We'd basically have a paper/rock/scissors situation where they each have a good matchup and a terrible matchup in that triangle.

ZootedGranny 01-07-2016 09:41 PM

Whether she has the belt or not, Holm/Rousey II will do big numbers. Rousey/Tate (with the belt) III will also do numbers.

If McGregor loses, you can still turn around and do McGregor/Edgar at UFC 200.

Can't really lose.

alnorth 01-07-2016 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZootedGranny (Post 12006197)
Whether she has the belt or not, Holm/Rousey II will do big numbers. Rousey/Tate (with the belt) III will also do numbers.

If McGregor loses, you can still turn around and do McGregor/Edgar at UFC 200.

Can't really lose.

Yep, there's very little downside here which is why it seemed insane to me that they might make Holm wait. If she fights Tate and loses, that division really comes to life. Conor can't really lose here, if he loses he still has the featherweight title, and people still want to see him defend that belt. If he wins, holds two belts, and defends them 4 times a year, holy crap would he become rich.

alnorth 01-07-2016 09:57 PM

Dana's newest episode of "Lookin' for a fight" is out. Its not a high-quality show, but its amusing.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_9bPA38TaJ0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigCatDaddy 01-08-2016 07:23 PM

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...is_shared=true

How many PPV buys would this get in a cage?

New World Order 01-08-2016 07:26 PM

I think Conor is a bit of a fool to fight Dos Anjos. Unless he just can't cut the weight anymore, stay at 145. He has it made there.

jd1020 01-08-2016 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12007775)
I think Conor is a bit of a fool to fight Dos Anjos. Unless he just can't cut the weight anymore, stay at 145. He has it made there.

He obviously can cut the weight but its apparently very hard for him to do. I don't see any reason why he couldn't fight at lightweight. He's the same size as the top guys and he actually has a 3 inch reach advantage on Dos Anjos. I still don't think I see him beating Dos Anjos, though.

alnorth 01-08-2016 07:35 PM

I bet Dana crapped himself when he saw that picture of Conor with the airsoft gun and heard that the Irish police wanted to talk to him. Ireland has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, you can get in quite a bit of trouble for even pellet guns.

alnorth 01-08-2016 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12007775)
I think Conor is a bit of a fool to fight Dos Anjos. Unless he just can't cut the weight anymore, stay at 145. He has it made there.

It is an extremely difficult cut for him, his coach actually wants him to vacate his featherweight title and just stay at 155. He looks like walking death at weigh-ins.

He can't really lose though, if he loses to RDA, oh well he's still the 145 champ, and if he wins, my God would he be rich.

jd1020 01-08-2016 07:47 PM

If he does beat Dos Anjos, I want to see Khabib get the first crack at him. Want to see what a wrestler in a full camp can do against him.

New World Order 01-08-2016 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12007829)
If he does beat Dos Anjos, I want to see Khabib get the first crack at him. Want to see what a wrestler in a full camp can do against him.


Khabib via UD

alnorth 01-09-2016 01:12 PM

Even though the cat is not just out of the bag, but up a tree and yowling to the whole neighborhood, the UFC still plans to hold off on announcing UFC 197 until the Washington/Green Bay game tomorrow on Fox

alnorth 01-11-2016 10:06 AM

Well, I think we now know why Royce Gracie (age 49) is coming out of retirement to fight on Bellator. He's in big trouble with the IRS. The IRS wants about $1.15MM in unpaid taxes, late penalties, and penalties for tax fraud.

alnorth 01-12-2016 12:26 PM

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has approved a settlement with Nick Diaz. 18 months, $100K fine. Diaz will have to provide 3 clean tests before fighting in Nevada again. He also agreed that he incorrectly pled the 5th amendment which is probably not true, but whatever, its just words.

So, Nick Diaz will be eligible to fight again in August.

alnorth 01-12-2016 09:13 PM

#2-ranked Middleweight contender Yoel Romero failed an out of competition test, so I guess he won't be getting the title shot against Rockhold. At his age (38), he is probably done now. We're no longer under the old rules, the new USADA punishments are in full effect. He'll probably be suspended until his 40's.

BigCatDaddy 01-12-2016 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12022614)
#2-ranked Middleweight contender Yoel Romero failed an out of competition test. At his age (38), he is probably done now. We're no longer under the old rules, the new USADA punishments are in full effect. He'll probably be suspended until his 40's.

The least shocking positive test ever. Pretty sure I even posted during his match about how the hell did he pass a test.

alnorth 01-12-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12022629)
The least shocking positive test ever. Pretty sure I even posted during his match about how the hell did he pass a test.

I'm guessing the guys at USADA had the same thought. Everyone eventually gets tested, but the OOC tests are not truly random, if they are suspicious, they will knock on your door more often.

USADA is not screwing around, I'm seeing the media tweeting about how these positive tests are disappointing, but I love it whenever I see a guy get popped. Not because I like seeing someone's career be destroyed, but it makes the sport a little cleaner, and shows all the other fighters that you are not smart enough to risk your livelihood trying to beat USADA, its just not worth it anymore.

alnorth 01-12-2016 09:55 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYjwpupVAAElBpA.jpg:large

lol

edit: for those who don't know, Tim Kennedy had Romero rocked and out on his feet when a round ended, but he was able to recover because of an absurdly long controversial delay between rounds with his corner not taking the stool. Not sure if Tim Kennedy would have won the fight, but he's been bitter about it ever since.

New World Order 01-12-2016 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12022729)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYjwpupVAAElBpA.jpg:large

lol

edit: for those who don't know, Tim Kennedy had Romero rocked and out on his feet when a round ended, but he was able to recover because of an absurdly long controversial delay between rounds with his corner not taking the stool. Not sure if Tim Kennedy would have won the fight, but he's been bitter about it ever since.


Kennedy was dominated in that fight, except for the part you just mentioned.

Perineum Ripper 01-12-2016 10:55 PM

I met Kennedy through a mutual friend of ours and I asked him about that..he gets ****ing pissed..I'm pretty sure he would kick babies out of the way to get to that guy again..it was an interesting conversation

alnorth 01-12-2016 11:20 PM

Ronda Rousey will not fight at UFC 200.

Dana White said that Ronda wants more time off and probably won't fight until Fall 2016.

edit: Dana said that he's known this for a while, and this is why he agreed to let Holm fight in March. He would have made her wait for UFC 200, but if Ronda won't be there, then there's no reason to not let Holly fight.

alnorth 01-13-2016 12:24 AM

If UFC 197's two main events survives the injury demon, I'm probably gonna post a GDT for that event. I think it would be important enough to merit its own thread if it happens.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-14-2016 11:49 PM

So, is the guy likely to fight CM Punk just going to assrape him, or is he a hand-picked can?

alnorth 01-15-2016 06:48 PM

Diego Brandao failed an in-competition USADA test for Marijuana. Since it happened in Vegas, USADA also notified the NSAC.

alnorth 01-16-2016 12:51 PM

Fox Sports has suspended Kenny Florian for blatant plagiarism.

alnorth 01-16-2016 09:24 PM

LOL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Turns out i am cornering the girl fighting cyborg tonight! Ive never met her, and i dont speak russian so this should be good.</p>&mdash; Tim Elliott (@TElliott125) <a href="https://twitter.com/TElliott125/status/688557956422479872">January 17, 2016</a></blockquote>
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(yes, I am watching an Invicta FC fight card)

alnorth 01-16-2016 11:00 PM

hah, wow. I just saw Cyborg destroy some random Russian chick that no one ever heard of.

Dana should probably consider creating a women's featherweight division to bring her in.

alnorth 01-17-2016 11:59 AM

Wow, this free card tonight is better than a lot of PPV's.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY8BdJhUMAEba34.jpg

jd1020 01-17-2016 12:04 PM

Time for Dillashaw to die.

New World Order 01-17-2016 12:24 PM

Holy shit, that's a ppv worthy card. I've always liked Cruz; hope he destroys Dillishaw.

jd1020 01-17-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12035291)
Holy shit, that's a ppv worthy card. I've always liked Cruz; hope he destroys Dillishaw.

All of Dillashaws cards have been good and they've all been free. Its weird.

New World Order 01-17-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12035300)
All of Dillashaws cards have been good and they've all been free. Its weird.


Surprised this is on tv. I thought they would have thrown Mighty Mouse on FS1

TimBone 01-17-2016 02:24 PM

And it's an FS1 card? Not even on Fox? Damn, that's a nice card.

alnorth 01-17-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12035649)
And it's an FS1 card? Not even on Fox? Damn, that's a nice card.

If this was a PPV, I would definitely pay for it, wouldn't even be a difficult decision. This is one of the best free cards I've seen in a while.

ChiliConCarnage 01-17-2016 08:31 PM

I don't keep up with MMA like I did a decade ago but uhh., predator Côte is still fighting? He has to be old as ****

Just googled 35. Hmm

kstater 01-17-2016 09:29 PM

Tough fight to score. I thought they split the first two rounds. Round 3 was really close, I'd give it to Trinaldo

Pants 01-17-2016 09:37 PM

For some reason FoxSportsGo is not letting me watch this. FoxSportsGo is so ****ing behind every other channel's internet option. Annoying as shit.

Sorter 01-17-2016 09:42 PM

Brown
Pettis
Cruz

Pants 01-17-2016 09:44 PM

Man, I've always been a Team Alpha Male fan so this such a weird fight. I don't know who I want to win in the TJ vs Cruz fight.

BigCatDaddy 01-17-2016 09:47 PM

Saul Good cornering Mitrione tonight?

Perineum Ripper 01-17-2016 09:53 PM

Those eye pokes are horrible to watch..makes me sick

Pants 01-17-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 12036933)
Those eye pokes are horrible to watch..makes me sick

That second one was brutal. Ughhh.

New World Order 01-17-2016 10:07 PM

Meathead has no conditioning

Pants 01-17-2016 10:08 PM

Dat eye tho.

Holy ****.

kstater 01-17-2016 10:08 PM

Thats a good stop, not sure why they're booing

ChiliConCarnage 01-17-2016 10:09 PM

Sweet **** at the eye. Also, lol at one punch doing that.

Sorter 01-17-2016 10:12 PM

I still am shocked that Browne beat Overeem.

Sorter 01-17-2016 10:14 PM

Really like Alvarez but wish he'd been in the UFC about 10 years ago. Don't think his chin is going to hold up for long. His recovery in his Hansen fight was unreal.

alnorth 01-17-2016 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 12036961)
Thats a good stop, not sure why they're booing

They are booing the winner because of the eye pokes

alnorth 01-17-2016 10:26 PM

Next TUF is Jedrzejczyk vs Gadelha, Strawweights and Light Heavyweights. TUF Finale is July 8th, day before UFC 200

BigCatDaddy 01-17-2016 10:47 PM

Alvarez 2-1 IMO but pretty lame fight.

alnorth 01-17-2016 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12037016)
Alvarez 2-1 IMO but pretty lame fight.

Any time I am trying to convince someone to give the UFC a chance, that its awesome, this is the kind of fight I hope doesn't happen to make a liar out of me.

New World Order 01-17-2016 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12037016)
Alvarez 2-1 IMO but pretty lame fight.


Awful fight. Reminded me of Couture vs Vera from 09 where Couture held Vera against the cage and kneed him in the thigh for 3 rounds.

Demonpenz 01-17-2016 10:50 PM

****ing shit fight.

Pants 01-17-2016 10:51 PM

There's no ****ing way this fight is going to be a shitshow. I can't wait.

alnorth 01-17-2016 10:51 PM

Alvarez probably did win the fight, but if you are going to lay and pray, then you had better never lose, because the UFC cuts those guys quickly as soon as they lose a couple fights.

alnorth 01-17-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12037023)
There's no ****ing way this fight is going to be a shitshow. I can't wait.

Yep, this card has been a disappointment so far, but there is no way the main event could possibly be less than highly entertaining. These guys are going to stand and throw.

GloryDayz 01-17-2016 10:52 PM

Agree, the last fight was pretty boring...

Pants 01-17-2016 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12037026)
Alvarez probably did win the fight, but if you are going to lay and pray, then you had better never lose, because the UFC cuts those guys quickly as soon as they lose a couple fights.

I agree with Joe Rogan on this, though. If you don't like losing by getting taken down and controlled the whole round, learn how to defend takedowns.

Doesn't make for exciting fights, but it shows that one guy is clearly better at one of the most important disciplines in fighting.

Sucks for us that it's so boring.

ChiliConCarnage 01-17-2016 10:53 PM

Should have been -a 5 rounder but that was bad. Congrats on stuffing your head in Pettis crotch for 12 minutes.


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