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*****The Kingsley Suamataia Thread***** (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=353240)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801507)

Eh, just a different gameday inactive.

You wouldn't necessarily have to cut an OT. I'd probably go ahead and cut CJ Hanson and not think twice about it. Then when the new guy is up to speed, make Kingsley a gameday inactive alongside Driscoll.

Roster management wouldn't be that difficult.

But if the staff is high on Hanson they aren’t going to subject him to waivers. It’s not worth it to them for what you’re getting with Smith.

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17801499)

Who are you cutting to bring him in? You going to short another position? Out are you cutting one of the young tackles, Kingsley, Ethan, Morris?

You guys act like it is just getting a guy and going. There is roster management that needs to take place. And I don’t think Donovan is good enough to cut a young tackle or short another area just to have him on. Wanya has done fine and is no worse than what we would get with Donovan.

Don't know if you haven't been paying attention, but Morris has gone down multiple times this season with the same reoccurring knee injury. We need a reliable backup and Suamataia is not fit to roster.

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17801514)

So you think they can sign smith to come on as a back up?

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17801517)

So you think they can sign smith to come on as a back up?

I'd tell him whatever gets him to sign then work from there.

What's Orlando Brown JR up to these days?

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17801513)

But if the staff is high on Hanson they aren’t going to subject him to waivers. It’s not worth it to them for what you’re getting with Smith.

If what you're getting from Smith is just a backup to Morris that's equal to Morris (which is what we saw last season) then I completely disagree.

It's easily worth it to move on from a 7th round pick to firm up the OT rotation as you get into the playoffs.

You probably don't even lose the guy anyway.

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17801517)

So you think they can sign smith to come on as a back up?

Why couldn't you?

"Here, have a few hundred thousand dollars and a shot at another SB ring. Maybe you'll play, maybe you won't but it's easy money and you don't seem to have anything else to do at the moment..."

Of course they could. Hell, he might even prefer it.

I am reluctantly with Sassy here. I wanted to give Kingsley a chance and hoped he fare better but we need to call Donovan Smith to come to the PS to get back in game shape.

It’s needed and based on Andy’s comment I think that’s what is going to happen

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17801423)

Bring in Charles Leno, JR for a workout.

If serious, this might be the worst of your 22,000 some posts.

Spoil tagged his ass in the OP.

Do better, rook.

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17801439)

I mean Trey Smith played both LT and LG in college.....

Could really F with the OL and move Taylor to LT, Smith to RT and Wayna to RG. I think Smith could be fine at RT and if he ended up actually doing well it would make it much easier to pay him as a tackle than a guard.

Balto,
from your posts I'm pretty sure you play a lot of Madden. Well, guess what. Real NFL is not exactly like Madden. You can't just switch up several positions and it will instantly work. It takes time to build chemistry. And you sure as shit don't do that midseason. :shake:

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801152)

This might just be a miscommunication. And yeah, it may STILL be Kingsley's fault, but remember late last season when everyone was saying "Just chip at LT..." and I think it was Schwartz that was saying "Guys, it's not that simple..."

He was telling folks that 'just chip' isn't a panacea because most OTs struggle to deal with that chip help when they don't know how the chip is going to actually go. Kingsley has no way to know that Kelce's not just going to redirect the guys shoulder but instead is going to shove him across into the adjacent gap.

A lot of the time a chip is just designed to turn a guy sideways and keep his hands down so the OT can get into him. Kelce did way more than that there and shoved him clear into the other gap.

Now maybe that was what he was supposed to do but it's also possible, even likely, that Kelce just got a little amped up and put more into it than Kingsley expected.

That is MUCH more complicated than y'all are making it. Because if Kelce doesn't blast that guy and Kingsley doesn't set up wide there, the rusher just beats him to the outside again. And Kingsley is completely reactionary there. He has no way to know what Kelce is going to do there until he does it.

I think it was a communication issue.

I think what this shows is how reliant we are on Wayna, not so much because he’s playing like an all-pro, but because of how quickly this line fell apart due to communication issues like this. Maybe some of that is on Kingsley, maybe some of that is due to the sum of everything.

More than anything, I am joining the chorus that’s wondering what Steele actually brings to the table at this point.

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17801528)

What's Orlando Brown JR up to these days?

He's hurt. :LOL:

On that play, Watson is streaking down the MOF open as well.

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 17801590)

If serious, this might be the worst of your 22,000 some posts.

“Charles Leno Jr., left tackle for the Washington Commanders in 2023, had 37 pressures on 669 pass-blocking snaps. He earned a 77.8 PFF pass-blocking grade for the season. “

His last season was better than the current LT options.