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DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9269243)
1st overall pick. Advantage KC.
Only if you love the QB.

I think that's very questionable at this point.

RunKC 01-02-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269245)
At this point in time, there are no clear indications as to whether or not Bowe and Albert (and Dorsey) return. Personally, if it were me interviewing, I'd plan for those players to move on because there is absolutely no guarantee they'll return.

So, you'd need a left tackle, starting QB, starting ILB, starting safety, reliable TE (not named Moeaki) and possibly three starting receivers, not to mention depth and starters on the defensive line.

I give the definite edge to Arizona at this point.

Pioli really ****ed the Chiefs by not re-signing Carr and agreeing to a long term contract with Bowe. If he had, the Chiefs would be much more desirable to a head coach with options.
Bowe and Albert have both told the media that they want to be back. And they said it without being asked. Seems genuine to me.

Messier 01-02-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9269247)
Easy - he couldn't do that without experiencing overwhelming backlash from the fans - NOT good for season ticket sales. Instead, he can WAIT and see how things go and maybe the the circumstances will improve and Pioli can "settle" in to a role.
The backlash would happen either way with that.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
Why does anyone give a **** if Pioli was there?

Koetter was never a legit candidate. It's obvious Pioli set up that interview before the season ended.

Let him RUN the goddamn interview for all I care - Clark's paying the man.

If people want to get pissed that Clark hasn't just admitted his mistake and fired Scott, flushing anywhere from $7-$20M+ in the process - fine. That makes sense.

But to complain that Scott was in Atlanta?

Who gives a ****?

Was Scott in Philly today?

notorious 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
Was the Vick decision his or the GM's?

Why does his OLine suck so bad? Is it scheme, or just no talent due to GM?

The Franchise 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269245)
At this point in time, there are no clear indications as to whether or not Bowe and Albert (and Dorsey) return. Personally, if it were me interviewing, I'd plan for those players to move on because there is absolutely no guarantee they'll return.

So, you'd need a left tackle, starting QB, starting ILB, starting safety, reliable TE (not named Moeaki) and possibly three starting receivers, not to mention depth and starters on the defensive line.

I give the definite edge to Arizona at this point.

Pioli really ****ed the Chiefs by not re-signing Carr and agreeing to a long term contract with Bowe. If he had, the Chiefs would be much more desirable to a head coach with options.
Well you can almost guarantee either Bowe or Albert is here for another year based on using the Franchise tag.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269250)
Only if you love the QB.

I think that's very questionable at this point.
Yep.

I think it's a very real possibility that the Chiefs will not draft a QB at 1/1.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9269251)
Bowe and Albert have both told the media that they want to be back. And they said it without being asked. Seems genuine to me.
Money talks and bullshit walks.

There are no guarantees until a contract is signed.

Messier 01-02-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9269252)
The backlash would happen either way with that.
In fact it would be worse, because the fans will tell you you lied.

O.city 01-02-2013 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269256)
Why does anyone give a **** if Pioli was there?

Koetter was never a legit candidate. It's obvious Pioli set up that interview before the season ended.

Let him RUN the goddamn interview for all I care - Clark's paying the man.

If people want to get pissed that Clark hasn't just admitted his mistake and fired Scott, flushing anywhere from $7-$20M+ in the process - fine. That makes sense.

But to complain that Scott was in Atlanta?

Who gives a ****?

Was Scott in Philly today?
My question is, why even keep that interview?

ToxSocks 01-02-2013 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9269228)
If you take everything TBG has said at face value, they had a heated falling out.

If you are buying him out, why keep him around for these things?
To be fair, TBG posts rumors. Not fact, rumors.

As of Today, Scott is still an employee. WE don't know what scooter was doing in ATL, but what we DO know is that he still works for Clark, and as such, must still do what Clark asks of him, whatever that might be.

ToxSocks 01-02-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9269263)
My question is, why even keep that interview?
Roonie Rule?

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269245)
At this point in time, there are no clear indications as to whether or not Bowe and Albert (and Dorsey) return. Personally, if it were me interviewing, I'd plan for those players to move on because there is absolutely no guarantee they'll return.

So, you'd need a left tackle, starting QB, starting ILB, starting safety, reliable TE (not named Moeaki) and possibly three starting receivers, not to mention depth and starters on the defensive line.

I give the definite edge to Arizona at this point.

Pioli really ****ed the Chiefs by not re-signing Carr and agreeing to a long term contract with Bowe. If he had, the Chiefs would be much more desirable to a head coach with options.
I think it's fair to say that Bowe OR Albert will return. One of those guys is going to get franchised for certain.

But yeah, there are some definite holes on the squad. Pioli left a 2-14 team in worse shame than the 2-14 team he found...that's amazing.

That said - every team has holes so your discussion is really in the margins. How many more holes do the Chiefs have than the Cardinals? Eh - they look pretty close to me.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9269247)
Easy - he couldn't do that without experiencing overwhelming backlash from the fans - NOT good for season ticket sales. Instead, he can WAIT and see how things go and maybe the the circumstances will improve and Pioli can "settle" in to a role.
No offense, but that's ridiculous.

Retain Pioli in January, retain him in February - there's going to be backlash, period.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269256)
If people want to get pissed that Clark hasn't just admitted his mistake and fired Scott, flushing anywhere from $7-$20M+ in the process - fine. That makes sense.
Why does it matter that Pioli is present? Again, it strongly suggests weakness and incompetence on Hunt's part. It's a professional interview process, not a ****ing circus.

Work on the buyout and leave the excess baggage at home.

And, honestly, he could have canceled the ATL interviews without any lack of professionalism. Things changed. Because of major organizational changes, we are no longer interested in your services, Tree Stooges. Sorry.


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