Anyway the Browns wanna stick with McCoy?

I'm sure thier fans want better.

I'm sure they do, but they don't deserve it.


Maybe Matt Flynn will go to the Browns.

The Brown draftabulators will loooove that I'm sure.

I'm not a McCoy fan by any stretch. But he has by far the worst receiver corps in the NFL and it's not even close. Most of those guys would be lucky to be able to make an NFL roster.

Holmgren is a QB guru. I can guarantee you he is going to move heaven and earth to get either Luck or RGIII. Shurmur is a QBs guy too.

Flynn would be a perfect Brown and Orton would be a perfect Skin, Manning a perfect Dolphin.

You're Haleys bitch. Got it.

Not really. Cleveland desperately needs a guy like RGIII--their receivers are god awful so they need a guy who can use his legs to buy time. RGIII is also perfect for a Shanahan system. I don't think Orton would fit into either of those two teams because the receivers are so bad in Cleveland and Shanahan would prefer not to use a pocket QB.

I think you're right about Manning in Miami. He's played in a dome his entire life. One thing I just thought about is I think it's more likely he goes to a dome team or a warm weather team.

I think Vince Young would be a perfect fit for Shanny 's offense.

I agree that Cleveland needs RGIII, but bringing in Flynn would allow them to use all thos draft picks to put talent around them. That offense needs playmakers in the worst way.

They could get Richardson and the second best wr with their first round picks if they signed Flynn.

They have 2 firsts. They could get both RG3 and his boy Wright in the first.

They are gonna have to spend those two firsts to get RGIII. He's not making it past 2.

They could. But given how much Holmgren and Shurmur love QBs, I'm very hard-pressed to believe they wouldn't put QB as their absolute top priority this season.

No one knows that. Its easier to say trade up and trade down than it is for it to happen.

Besides, they are picking 4th. If you look at the draft chart, which teams seem to follow fairly closely, they could give up their 4th, 2nd round, and 3rd round to move up to 2.

No, you're making wild-eye conspiracy theories that go against the face of almost everything we've been hearing.

You claim Haley was fired because of Palko. Nevermind that there is talk that Pioli was not only practically ready to fire Haley before this season, he was purposely making Haley's life a living hell this year in order to find a good excuse to get rid of him.

You're claiming Haley demanded that Palko be on the roster and that Pioli not bring any new QBs in. Find me a single shred of evidence that suggests that to be true. Last time I checked, Pioli is the guy who has the most power by a mile on what free agents they sign. If Pioli looked at the roster and truly believed Palko was the best backup QB they could find, then that is 1000% his fault.

Haley's fault was that he played Palko longer than he should have. But that's not nearly as bad as Pioli's fault of believing he was the best available backup the Chiefs could have brought in.