Giants | NY Giants noncommittal on Brandon Marshall
Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:20:55 -0700

New York Giants WR Brandon Marshall (ankle) hasn't passed a physical yet and has been working out at the team facility "trying to get healthy," according to head coach Pat Shurmur, who added "we'll have to see" when asked about Marshall's place on the team for the upcoming season.

Holy shit

Gruden is trashing that team.

Awesome.

I'd take Walford here. He's good.

We don't even have a first this year, but somehow could have came up with the trade capital to trade for that headcase...then make him the highest paid player in football? Yeah we were absolutely right in calling you nuts for him on the Chiefs. If another team pisses the picks away, who ****ing cares?

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He'll still make his money back in the form of Final Four's, World Cup, concerts and of course, The 2028 Olympics.

Every said they'd never trade him.

Well, **** off, they are.

And if the Rams are infact offering a first, they'll get him. The Giants aren't gonna turn down a first if they don't wanna keep him.

I'm sorry you were wrong, but that's not my problem.

I would, too, but I think he'll be claimed long before he gets to the Chiefs

Clive Walford

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He's a....Turd

Does he go thru waivers at this point?

....to the Chiefs

Yes

How did the cost jump up so dramatically?

Last year, the contractors claimed that the enormous amount of rain that we received in SoCal last year would push the construction completion from 2019 to 2020.

My guess at this point would be that the geologicals were incorrect and that they'll need far more concrete and steel than originally anticipated, as that happens from time to time once excavation has begun.

But again, that's just a guess.

Even this time of year? Wouldn't he just be a free agent.?

He was drafted in 2015, so he's subject to Waivers.

If he clears, he'll be a Free Agent, but I doubt he clears unless there's something else going on with him.

But, his last name starts with a W. so I bet the Chiefs will bring him in for a look. W. seems to be the letter Mr. Veach is focused on right now. :)

If OBJ is really let go for just a single first that would be a historic steal for whatever team gets him, contract and all. He is a Moss-level talent and his production has followed suit. He's a type of player that you put up with the occasional shit because he's a type of talent that is worth it. A small city market needs to hop all over this, he just isn't a good fit for the NY/LA media.

If I'm Cleveland I offer 1st, 33rd, and Corey Coleman for OBJ and 2.

I hop all over Walford as well to be TE2 if I'm Veach

ROFL He's not signing long term with Cleveland

Overhyped player in my book. Moss dominated teams and made his team win. Giants lose and lose with him and lost almost as much without him. Eli just sucks and threw it to him a lot.

But Moss had Brady throwing to him at one stage. Look who Odell has with him? A washed up Eli who was benched last season? :shake:

Put him with Rodgers and he would be on another planet imo.

Manziel is willing to take 0 guaranteed $ and would love to even take a spot ona practice squad.

Every team was at A&Ms pro day and Manziel threw for them.

Listening to his interview, he seems different.

ding ding ding

I'd guarantee him $1 and let him sit at 3rd string.

Just say no to Manziel

THIS.

:eek:

I'm going yes if O doesn't want him :)

"Different" In that he's stopped beating women, taking drugs and getting drunk? Or "different" in that he's trying to con people into giving him a job when there is a better QB out there in Kap who can't even get a workout? Which one bro? ROFL

Not to mention Watkins is 24 and hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential.

Beckham is 25 and the best WR in football.

I’d take Hopkins over Beckham.

Nothing in your first block of text matters, don't care.

I see Watson to Kelce as Henne is to Mahomes. A guy who can teach Kelce how to be ready every single Sunday. When he produces, he produces, but he gets taken off the field by more than concussions. Disappears way too often. In his last 4 seasons, he averages about 7 games a season with <50 yds. He's too talented for that.

Watson should also make for a more productive #2 than Harris, probably a better blocker too, who could step in in case of injury. Could also help bring Jace Amaro or any other young project He's along.

I'd expect Kendall Wright to be mostly an insurance policy.

Would you trade Sammy Watkins AND a 1st round pick AND lose an additional 4m cap space for Beckham?

I doubt more than one NFL fan (outside Chiraq homers) would trade offensive skill players for KC with the Bears. Absolute lunacy

The difference is trading 4-7th round picks to move up to get better prospects vs trading high picks to get a headache with possible of field issues who wants to be paid top money.

That's a BIG difference.

I don't expect to plug holes in the starting lineup in rounds 4-7.

ROFL

The Watkins injury narrative is such bs.

A guy is injury prone if he constantly misses games here and there for multiple injuries spread out over time. Not if he has one serious injury that costs his a large chunk of a single season.

Any player in professional sports could have a major injury at any time. Few consistently miss time.

Do you think Watkins has ever been used to his potential or had players around him to help him achieve that potential?

You saw the Rams tape same as everyone else. Watkins was always open and rarely got the ball.

When he did get the ball, he made positive plays after the catch.

He's also a great player in the redzone.

All the potential, none of the bullshit. I'll take Sammy.

No we need a backup.

I'm not quite sure why exactly, but I really dislike Auburn OL prospects.

4 years in the league and he has only played 16 games once, his rookie season, which was 2014. He missed 3 games in 2015. He missed 8 games in 2016. He missed one game in 2017.

Your reading comprehension sucks.

All but one of those games were from one injury. And that one game last year wasn’t due to injury.

The one game he missed in 2017 was because him and the rest of the starters were rested ahead of the playoffs, he wasn't injured.

How do you figure?
He missed Weeks 4, 5, 7 in 2015. He missed weeks 3 through 11 in 2016.
How are those from the same injury? With all those games played in between those missed games?

I see that now. I originally seen the 0's in week 5, but I guess he just didn't get any targets.

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Can someone please explain how this is not tampering by the Rams/Diva Beckham Jr.?

John Mara pretty much put it to rest, I'd say, unless the Rams go full reerun with an offer.

Would be if the Chiefs did it.

Anyone else remember Andys "Dream Team" of the Eagles in 2011?

They sucked lol

http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pla...y-watkins/6937

Sep 21, 2017 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Watkins departed in Week 3 but returned for Week 4.
Jan 1, 2017 NFL Pedal Foot Fracture Watkins had 2 screws inserted into his previously fractured and repaired left foot, following multiple recovery setbacks.
Sep 20, 2016 NFL Pedal Foot Watkins missed Week 3 and then landed on IR -- designated to return -- after a teammate stepped on his surgically repaired left foot in a walkthrough. He missed 8 games, returning in Week 12.
Apr 13, 2016 NFL Pedal Foot Fracture Watkins fractured his left foot in an April workout training and needed a screw inserted.
Oct 18, 2015 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Watkins sprained his left ankle on a TD reception in Week 6 and missed the next 2 games.
Sep 27, 2015 NFL Leg Calf Strain Watkins suffered a reportedly "mild" strain to his left calf against the Dolphins in Week 3 but did miss 2 games.
Aug 17, 2015 NFL Thigh Glute Strain Watkins sat out the final 3 preseason games with a glute injury.
Nov 30, 2014 NFL Inguinal Hip Tear Watkins had minor surgery after the season to fix a slight tear in the labrum in his hip. The injury cost him no game time.
Nov 5, 2014 NFL Inguinal Groin Pull Grade 1 Watkins had a minor groin pull in practice coming out of the Week 9 bye that did not cost him any playing time.
Aug 28, 2014 NFL Chest Rib Bruise Watkins aggravated a previous rib bruise and left the preseason game against the Steelers.
Aug 16, 2014 NFL Chest Rib Bruise The rookie missed 1 preseason game after sustaining a rib bruise in the 3rd preseason game.
Dec 31, 2012 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 The Clemson star WR was knocked out of the Chick-fil-A Bowl against LSU on the second play of the game with a right ankle sprain.
Nov 12, 2011 Non-NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Sprain Watkins missed 1 game after spraining his right shoulder against Wake Forest in November.

I think a 2 year deal with 0 guaranteed for league minimum would be a very smart move for Veach and would kinda fit his mold. Young, talented, former high pick, low risk high reward.

He flames out or makes a mistake, cut him with no loss.

He dedicates himself (which seems like is a good possibility) and we can at worst flip him for a pick or get a comp pick if he goes to another team.

You’re right. I thought it was a recurring injury with the foot but the 3 games he missed in 2015 we’re due to an ankle, not a foot. I don’t see what those other injuries have to do with anything going back to college since he missed no game time or just preseason games for the most part.

The point still stands that other than a freak injury he’s missed 3 games due to injury. It’s not nearly as bad as people make it seem. He’s no more injury prone than most of our studs IMO.

There's no way I would invest the kind of resources that trading for OBJ would require to bring him onto a team.

If he did go to the Rams, then he will make Goff look better than he is.
But that still won't be good enough.

If you have the right QB, however, then the weapons you have will be plenty good enough.

No way I build a team around a WR.

I’ve been on scarcely and haven’t seen you around... are your thoughts on Watkins?

Personally I can understand why they made the move, but I’d have rather seen that much spent on a defensive player or 2.

If it works out like they hope, it could make the offense borderline unstoppable.

Passing up on Manziel is stupid. he's willing to play for peanuts and he could potentially be traded for a decent pick but the best part is that if Mahomes got hurt we'd have a QB that we could still win a SB with.

We have a young QB and we don't need stupid Manziel the fugg up in the building.

I don't guess you've seen Manziels wife

Remember when Manziel played Alabama?

What a performance.

Patriots | New England meets with Johnny Manziel
Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:13:11 -0700

Free-agent QB Johnny Manziel (Browns) met with the New England Patriots before and after his workout at Texas A&M Tuesday, March 27.

Every NFL Team's Biggest Need This Late in Free Agency

Kansas City Chiefs: Defensive Line

There's been plenty written about the changes the Kansas City Chiefs have undergone after the trades of quarterback Alex Smith and cornerback Marcus Peters and the addition of wide receiver Sammy Watkins.

The team's biggest problem isn't as talked about—or as new.

The Chiefs ranked 25th in run defense last year, allowing 118.1 yards a game. That was in large part because of a lack of push up front. The team's best run-stuffing lineman, Bennie Logan, hit free agency and hasn't been brought back, so the line is at the top of the offseason priority list.

That doesn't mean Kansas City is in position to do a lot about it. Compliments of the trade that landed Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs don't have a first-round pick. They also have only $8.3 million in cap space.

Whether it's a Day 2 pick or a value signing, Kansas City will need a bit of luck to find an impact player for the defensive line

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No player but a HOF QB is worth that. Maybe a young stud QB like Wilson or Wentz, but a stinking WR? Insane offer and the Giants would have to be idiots not to take it.

LMAO There's no ****ing way.

WOW.

That’s ****ing reeruned.

thats much more than the rams wanted from us for aaron donald...seriously

Absolutely no way! That’s a QB trade not for a raging lunatic WR

Tell me more.

https://youtu.be/505MjAIXBqE

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The team who does that will never live it down.

Just thinking what would be worse? The Saints trading their entire draft to move up and get Ricky Williams or this current proposed trade for OBJ?

Theres no chance that's right. If it is, the Giants couldn't accept fast enough.

Not a chance that's accurate for a rental.

Why does Odell have this reputation on this site?

But yeah I agree that would be the stupidest trade in a real long time.
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If that offer is real, the GM making it should be preemptively fired before he can follow through on it

He acted crazy that one time.

LMAO Yeah, he doesn't have a track record or anything.

He's definitely a head case.

He's also on track to be a HOF WR, in a Jerry Rice type production.

He’s had multiple meltdowns.