Surprise of the night: both of Adelaide Byrd's dissents tonight seemed reasonable.

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The HD stream is choppy for me but the BT Sports stream is solid and still decent picture.

Here we go...

19-19, they each clearly won a round. Great fight.

So?

Lawler needs a knockout

I have it rounds 2, 3, and 5 for Lawler.

Fight of the Night obviously. Can't wait for the rematch.

HO LY ****

Holy ****

How is Condit up? I simply do not understand.

I don't know how you give round 3 to Fowler. But we'll see.

For sure, man. Rematch city.

Bruce Buffer. LOL.

Longest pause of all time.

Because Lawler did more damage.

Nah

I had Condit winning, but I don't feel like he got robbed.

That 5th round was God Damn madness

The difference was round 3. Lawler clearly won rounds 2 and 5 (round 5 was madness, Lawler went beast mode and almost got the KO), Condit clearly won rounds 1 and 4. The 3rd round was very very close.

I had round 3 for Condit, but I didn't feel strongly about it, so a SD is fine by me. That fight was insane.

That's why Pride scoring was better, IMO. Spiritually, that was a Lawler win. Just a very subjective opinion, obviously.

How the **** did Condit survive round 5? Jesus Christ.

**** though, Lawler is tough as shit too...took some of Carlos' best shots.

I love TWood but we need a rematch...

Bad ass fight that deserves a rematch. Not a robbery but couldnt give more.than 2 and 5 to Ruthless.
Huge fan of both guys though. I think Condit could have won 5 but he wanted to mix it up rather than try to win the round. Hats off to him.

Carlos won that fight IMO but another example of the judges giving a close fight to the champ, I totally get it. Robbie is one of my fav. fighters ever but Carlos won that fight IMO...

Couple minutes into round 5 I was texting updates to my brother telling him it was a great fight but it looks like Condit was taking control and probably going to win a decision, and then.... Lawler just erupted. Again.

I don't know why I keep being surprised by this, Lawler always goes insane into beast mode late in round 5. Clearly took that round from his late eruption, and as it turned out, the fight since I guess the judges thought he won round 3.

Don't think they gave Lawler anything.

You have to look at round 3 and decide whether you give more points for less than full force volume striking for Condit or the bombs Lawler landed. I will always side with the power because it just does more damage, you just have to land it and he did.

Lawler bores the **** out of me though. I can't stand the way he fights just standing there for 95% of it.

I'm continually impressed with Jackson/Winklejohn and the gameplans they come up with. Another great one tonight that was 2 mins. away from delivering another championship.

I didn't mean they gave it to me like it was a robbery...every combat sport though, almost always in a razor thin fight you'll see the champ get the nod.

I had it 3-2 Condit.

The general reaction from the media seems to be "eh, we think Condit won, but it was close enough that we won't complain much" Also, that crazy round 5 probably earned Lawler some goodwill wrt any questions or controversy, everyone knew that Condit was getting beaten down at the bell.

That's pretty much where I'm at with it...

Yeah, the champ always gets a slight benefit of the doubt on scorecards. I had it 3-2 for Condit, but the 3rd round was close, and thats all Lawler needed. You need to either crush the champ on the scorecards, or finish him.

The only down side to Condit being the champ is he would lose it to some lay and pray wrestler in a boring ass fight.

Confirmed: Round 3 was the difference. One more judge decided to write a 10 instead of a 9 in Lawler's column.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXxc9ytWkAEaix3.jpg:large

So is it worth finding this fight online afterwards to watch?

Yes, round 5 was silly, especially considering the context, knowing Condit won at least 2 rounds (maybe 3, but as it turned out only 2) and it was looking like he was going to eke out round 5 too, then Lawler went ape in the last couple minutes.

edit: the second best fight was Poirier/Duffy from the fightpass prelim.

Yeah, Condits crazy high volume striking makes for non stop action.

weird stat:

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When I was watching the fight live, right after the 3rd round I thought Lawler edged out condit, but then during the 4th I second guessed myself because thats when they started flashing Condit's insane strike stats.... but Lawler's stats kinda confirmed that I was seeing Lawler land the majority of the significant strikes he was throwing, while maybe not appreciating Condit's volume.

The fight was not easy to score, because you had Condit's overwhelming volume vs Lawler's effectiveness and occasional flashes of beast mode, where he came close to KO'ing Condit twice.

Cool I like Condit as a fighter.

He never came close to KOing him.

Dana White said he had it 3-2 for Condit, but the 5th round was one of the greatest rounds he's seen

:spock:

When? Condit took some shots as he usually does but was never dazed and confused. The only time one of them was wobbly was the one Robbie took behind the ear but he recovered pretty quick.

You must have stopped watching before the 5th round. Condit was out on his feet for like the last 2 minutes.

Dana White basically said that Miocic gets the winner of Werdum/Velasquez.... but who knows until a title fight is actually announced since they frequently back out of promises.

What the hell fight were you watching? We can all debate who won round 3, but Lawler nearly had Condit knocked out in round 5 twice. Could also be an argument that the fight could have been stopped

we're probably nit-picking what the difference is between "really damn hurt from Robbie's striking" and "almost KO'd", either way, whatever you want to call it, thats part of what balances Condit's impressive-looking striking stats that were on paper suggesting he was easily winning the fight. Condit had the volume though, no doubt.

You mean when he was returning fire the whole time? Just not as effectively as Lawler. He even said after the fight as was never hurt "neurologically".

reeruned. He kept trading until the bell sounded.

In pain, yes. Going out or quitting? Not even close. I have never seen a guy take punches like he does. Lawler takes a hell of a shot to though. He took some viscuous PED loaded Hendicks shots.

He was returning fire like Rousey was returning fire up until the moment she took a shin to the jaw.

Watch it again. I think you had some blinders on..

I dont have to, lol. I don't need to rewind the fight to know that Condit was hanging on by a thread at the end of round 5. How you can say Condit was clearly in it until the end blows my ****ing mind.

hilarious, embarrassing moment in the press conference. One of the reporters thought Tumenov (wearing a hat) was Lawler, and asked him a question as if he were Lawler. Dana was confused why the translater wasn't doing his job, the reporter kept trying to say never mind, I made a mistake, the translater was explaining to Dana what happened, then finally it dawned on Dana: "wait.... you cover MMA, and you thought that was Robbie Lawler?" Hilarity ensues.

Because they were standing there going toe to toe. Robbie fot the better of the exchange but if you thought Condit was about done dont know much about MMA or have seen another Condit fight.

In 39 career fights he has never been KOd.. i assure you it wasnt close to being the 1st.time

ROFL

You don't need to know shit about MMA to see that Condit was trying to make it to the bell. He was taking shot after shot and wobbling on his feet with hands down. I mean holy shit dude...

He was gassed... they both could barely stand at the end, dip shit.

Condit saying all the right things at the press conference as if he had months of media training. Thought he won the fight, but it was close, he left it all in there, you never know with judges, etc.

Reading through most places seems like most felt Condit won. Love to see it again over Woodley or Rory. Hendricks is boring as shit so dont want to see that either.

Yup. Thats it. He was gassed. His face wasn't bloody or anything from the beating he was taking. He was just... tired.

MMAjunkie play by play:

Sherdog:

"Dazed and in touble." Those ****ing reeruns don't know shit about MMA.

My instant instinct after round 3 was Lawler won the round, second-guessed myself after I saw the stats, now I don't know anymore who I felt really won the round (and the fight). I'm satisfied with the likely conclusion that a defending champion will always win a split decision, and a challenger can't let it get that close.

They apparently knew more about how hurt Condit was then he did. ****ing psychics.

At least they got the score right though.

I'm still 100% confident that I will always side with the power punches. Volume only means something if it hurts to me. Watching the round, Lawler was doing more damage to Condit than Condit was to Lawler.

It's like, would you rather take 10 BB's to the chest or one .45?

Not worth it dude, there's nothing you can point to and definitively declare that you are right. You're talking about something thats very subjective, and probably doesn't matter much.

39 fights never been knocked out. Dude can take a shot the most can't.

It's not really subjective, lol. Anyone watching that fight could clearly see Condit was hurt, but he didn't admit it afterwards so I guess that means he wasn't hurt at all. It's the same for round 4 when Condit had Lawler wobbled at the end. If either of those rounds are just a little bit longer someone probably gets finished.

Carlos Condit is talking like he is seriously thinking about retirement. He's only 31 though, and some fighters go through a "damn, enough of this" moment before they sleep on it a while.

He said.he was hurting, but just aware the entire fight. Not "out on his feet" like some ****ing moron might say LMAO

Well yeah, it is subjective. I did think Condit was close at the end of the 5th round, but he insists he wasn't (biased obviously), and they were not hooked up to a live brain scan machine during the fight, so there's not a graph or data point you can point to. If he "looks like he was almost KO'd" to you or me, thats by definition subjective.

Meh. He loves it and will be back. A lot of guys fo througj that after a fight where a decision didnt go the way they thought it should.

Most guys are pretty honest about it. They will tell you they dont remember shit from X round on.... win or lose. Then laugh about it. He doesn't strike me as a bullshitter.

Remember when Anderson Silva had never been knocked out... until he was?

Probably because he never got hit solid until he did.

Remember when Jose Aldo never got knocked out... until he was?

Last post trying to spell this out. A near KO is when a guys brains fets scrambled for a bit. Its pretty obvious when that happens. Condits head was clear his body just worn the **** out as was Lawlers. Im sorry if I cant teach you the basics.

And to say that Silva never took a solid shot before Weidman knocked him out is ****ing laughable.

Remember when you made a post worth a shit? Me neither.

Haaaaa.

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Need to give that cage an assist for keeping Condit on his feet.