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staylor26 02-14-2025 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17969145)
Talk about overexaggerating. He's not Schwartz, but he is by no means an epic fail at RT.

Everything is black and white. It's either a HR or a bust. No room for gray/nuance.

tredadda 02-14-2025 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17968599)
Sure, but your critique essentially comes down to "Veach hasn't pulled a franchise LT out of his ass".

I mean I guess he could have gotten Alt, but he would have needed to convince Mahomes and company to just tank the season vs winning the SB. Stupid Veach.

duncan_idaho 02-14-2025 05:33 PM

The more I read about his contract situation, the more it seems like Alaric Jackson is going to be there in FA and someone who is available for a deal in the low 20s.

If you want a chance to repeat the success of the Mitchell Schwartz signing, he seems like the best bet to me.

Really interested to see how that market plays out.

I’d also still kick things around with Wills, too

DRM08 02-14-2025 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17969280)
The more I read about his contract situation, the more it seems like Alaric Jackson is going to be there in FA and someone who is available for a deal in the low 20s.

If you want a chance to repeat the success of the Mitchell Schwartz signing, he seems like the best bet to me.

Really interested to see how that market plays out.

I’d also still kick things around with Wills, too

Alaric seems like a very good option. Will be interesting to see what kind of bidding war happens with him.

Hoover 02-14-2025 06:02 PM

And he comes from a program at Iowa that always produces linemen.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2025 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17969150)
I'd be good with it, but man, they better sign somebody like Humphires or Wills for insurance too.

That's like buying a Homeowners policy in California.

Palangi 02-14-2025 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17969335)
That's like buying a Homeowners policy in California.

It’s definitely better than spending $20 m+ on an average tackle, Like Alaric Jackson. Or a veteran that will be hurt the whole contract, like Ronnie Stanley

pugsnotdrugs19 02-14-2025 06:47 PM

I’m not saying I would be totally against it, I just don’t see this regime investing big money in a 32.5 in arm LT.

Chris Meck 02-14-2025 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17969343)
It’s definitely better than spending $20 m+ on an average tackle, Like Alaric Jackson. Or a veteran that will be hurt the whole contract, like Ronnie Stanley

That's what left tackles cost on the free agent market, dude. It is what it is.

We can't get anywhere near high enough to get one in the draft, so we'll have to pay.

We can try to band-aid it for a year with a Humphries and hope Kingsley improves. But I don't feel great about that if Humphries couldn't even get on the field after watching Thuney (out of position) and Caliendo getting ass ****ed without lube every down in the Super Bowl.

ChiefsHawk 02-14-2025 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17969280)
The more I read about his contract situation, the more it seems like Alaric Jackson is going to be there in FA and someone who is available for a deal in the low 20s.

If you want a chance to repeat the success of the Mitchell Schwartz signing, he seems like the best bet to me.

Really interested to see how that market plays out.

I’d also still kick things around with Wills, too

He's the best option in FA

Chris Meck 02-14-2025 07:11 PM

You guys have to understand that other than an elite QB, a plus Left Tackle is the hardest thing to find in the NFL.

Any team that has one, isn't going to get rid of him. It's a cornerstone position that's incredibly hard to win without. You don't ditch them. If your team is otherwise any good, you especially won't, because you won't be drafting high enough to get one.

The only guys that come free are 1)old 2) expensive and the team is cap strapped or 3) not good enough for the team to pay in their eyes.

We got OBJ because the Ravens had Stanley and didn't want to pay TWO Left tackles. The Bengals got him because he thought he was worth more money than we offered and signed for less with Cinci cuz pride.

So.

It's over the hill broke dicks and hope Kingsley develops, or it's over pay for a Jackson, a Robinson, or a Stanley.

All have their issues and risks.

Chris Meck 02-14-2025 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969347)
I’m not saying I would be totally against it, I just don’t see this regime investing big money in a 32.5 in arm LT.

This is a good point. I wasn't aware he had T-Rex arms to that degree.

ChiefsHawk 02-14-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969376)
You guys have to understand that other than an elite QB, a plus Left Tackle is the hardest thing to find in the NFL.

Any team that has one, isn't going to get rid of him. It's a cornerstone position that's incredibly hard to win without. You don't ditch them. If your team is otherwise any good, you especially won't, because you won't be drafting high enough to get one.

The only guys that come free are 1)old 2) expensive and the team is cap strapped or 3) not good enough for the team to pay in their eyes.

We got OBJ because the Ravens had Stanley and didn't want to pay TWO Left tackles. The Bengals got him because he thought he was worth more money than we offered and signed for less with Cinci cuz pride.

So.

It's over the hill broke dicks and hope Kingsley develops, or it's over pay for a Jackson, a Robinson, or a Stanley.

All have their issues and risks.

Would you take Jackson at 21.5 a year for 4 years?

smithandrew051 02-14-2025 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17969380)
Would you take Jackson at 21.5 a year for 4 years?

Yes

smithandrew051 02-14-2025 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17969280)
The more I read about his contract situation, the more it seems like Alaric Jackson is going to be there in FA and someone who is available for a deal in the low 20s.

If you want a chance to repeat the success of the Mitchell Schwartz signing, he seems like the best bet to me.

Really interested to see how that market plays out.

I’d also still kick things around with Wills, too

Basically what I’ve been seeing too.

He’d be an idiot to not test the waters a bit. He’ll start a bidding war.


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