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O.city 10-29-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14561128)
The Chiefs could avoid the 2021 cap hit but the 2020 is locked in.

If he wants to restructure his deal in a way that puts ALL that shit onto this year's cap for the Jets, I'd listen then. Have him sign an 'extension' for a year with a signing bonus that equals his entire 2020 salary and then trade him so all that bonus hits the jets cap. Then give him a base salary of about $5 million next season so he still has something to play for and if he sucks we can cut him free and clear.

But with his contract as its presently constructed, the Jets would have to give us a TON to justify taking that deal. Of course they're trying to move him - the question isn't what they'd get, it's what they'll have to GIVE.

I'm pretty sure the Chiefs wanted him in the offseason at a really low deal, so they may be interested.

If they'd do all that contractually for you, would you trade them a late rounder?

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14561127)
He's only got 13 mil more of guaranteed money on it, so you could do somethings after right?

You're shitting me, right?

Why in the name of **** would he do that? He has $13.5 million coming to him next year. What do you intend to do to get a guy who SAT OUT the entire 2018 season to get his paper to decide to give that back?

C'mon man - this is just silly. Bell's not going to simply give the money back and there is no way in the world you can justify further spreading it out for a RB that's clearly in decline.

Once again - if the Jets want to extend him with a fake 5th season on that deal and call his 2020 salary a signing bonus that will accelerate onto their cap, then replace that 2020 salary with just enough of a carrot to get him to play hard the remainder of the year - then I'd listen and consider throwing a 5th their way.

But that contract is Frank Clark bad. There's no way anyone should voluntarily put that on their books.

Mecca 10-29-2019 09:55 AM

Boy with Bell you're looking at a year and half and paying about 14 million for it.

The Franchise 10-29-2019 09:56 AM

It’s hilarious just how bad some teams are in this league. All of that money for Bell and now you’re looking to trade him?

The Lions should offer Slay to the Jets for Bell and some picks.

O.city 10-29-2019 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14561135)
You're shitting me, right?

Why in the name of **** would he do that? He has $13.5 million coming to him next year. What do you intend to do to get a guy who SAT OUT the entire 2018 season to get his paper to decide to give that back?

C'mon man - this is just silly. Bell's not going to simply give the money back and there is no way in the world you can justify further spreading it out for a RB that's clearly in decline.

Once again - if the Jets want to extend him with a fake 5th season on that deal and call his 2020 salary a signing bonus that will accelerate onto their cap, then replace that 2020 salary with just enough of a carrot to get him to play hard the remainder of the year - then I'd listen and consider throwing a 5th their way.

But that contract is Frank Clark bad. There's no way anyone should voluntarily put that on their books.

I mean, the seasons after 2020 don't really matter what he's supposed to make, once the guaranteed money is gone.

If the Jets would take on some of that somehow, I'd do it.

Mecca 10-29-2019 09:56 AM

That contract structure is really terrible, guess they felt with all that cap room it didn't matter.

O.city 10-29-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14561138)
It’s hilarious just how bad some teams are in this league. All of that money for Bell and now you’re looking to trade him?

The Lions should offer Slay to the Jets for Bell and some picks.

Bad teams stay bad. It's unreal.

Like what the hell is the point in some of these teams signing guys?

Mecca 10-29-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14561138)
It’s hilarious just how bad some teams are in this league. All of that money for Bell and now you’re looking to trade him?

The Lions should offer Slay to the Jets for Bell and some picks.

The Jets fired the guy that made all these signings...it's a weird situation.

O.city 10-29-2019 09:58 AM

Hell if the Jets can or will take on a lot of the GTD money, sure.

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14561132)
I'm pretty sure the Chiefs wanted him in the offseason at a really low deal, so they may be interested.

If they'd do all that contractually for you, would you trade them a late rounder?

Probably.

Now ask why the Jets would do it? They only have $9 million in cap space right now. And you're talking about accelerating another $15 million onto it. So they'd have to clear $6 million more AND burn up that rollover.

All for the privilege of a 5th round pick?

And lets be realistic, they don't have anywhere near enough time to pull all that off. If that were under consideration, they'd have needed to have been discussing it for weeks.

Bell's a paycheck player - you aren't gonna get him to freely or easily **** with his money. So unless you make him an offer he can't refuse, you'll never get it all worked out by the deadline. And if you're willing to make him that offer he can't refuse, why the hell would you bother for a 3rd day pick?

They're stuck, IMO.

The Franchise 10-29-2019 09:59 AM

Adam Gase is pretty much guaranteed to **** over a team where ever he goes.

ljmhawk 10-29-2019 09:59 AM

he honestly might be the perfect RB to help take some pressure off of Mahomes

Sure-Oz 10-29-2019 09:59 AM

@JFowlerESPN: Despite several teams looking for cornerback help, Falcons CB Desmond Trufant is not expected to be dealt as of now, per source.

The Franchise 10-29-2019 10:02 AM

And just an FYI....the guy who tweeted that shit apparently has never been right about anything.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 10:04 AM

He’d be a great player to have here but it doesn’t make much sense for us (Bell)


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