Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12528793)

I assume you mean elite defenses. Because an elite QB is our defense's problem. Alex just needs to slay the opposing D.

We didn't lose to the Colts in the playoffs because Alex couldn't fling the ball....

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12528755)

Can't wait for Sunday and hear the excuses for BIG STICK NICK getting his shit off.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12528803)

Got to jump in the shower.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12528815)

That and the doctors **** up which left a wire in his shoulder that was cutting through the bone as he continued to throw throughout the season. I imagine that having a wire saw through your bone would have some degree of impact on your ability and desire to hurl the ball 50 yards every pass play.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12528827)

So basically all the hoopla is over Foles playing ONE game while Smith is out...

Smith fans are pissed that Chiefs fans are excited to know that they have a solid backup and are excited to see him play for ONE ****ING GAME...

Smith and his horizontal wobble launcher will not be replaces by Foles...

You guys can stop panicking now.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12528778)

When has Smith had any reliant deep field threat during his time in KC? Maclin last year? Conley couldn't catch shit until this season. Wilson alligator armed every pass in front of him past ten yards.

Hill has been a huge boon to this offense this season and looks to have motivated the rest of the receiving corps to be more aggressive running routes and actually trying to catch a deep ball.

The shorter routes were somewhat dependent upon the guys running those routes and the Chiefs really didn't have shit in that regard until last season and Smith wasn't afraid of putting air under the ball throwing it to Maclin.

Wilson killed the trust by giving up on every deep ball thrown his way. Conley had hands of stone last season.

It's hard to throw it deep when you don't have anyone who will catch it.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12528778)

When has Smith had any reliant deep field threat during his time in KC? Maclin last year? Conley couldn't catch shit until this season. Wilson alligator armed every pass in front of him past ten yards.

Hill has been a huge boon to this offense this season and looks to have motivated the rest of the receiving corps to be more aggressive running routes and actually trying to catch a deep ball.

The longer routes were somewhat dependent upon the guys running those routes and the Chiefs really didn't have shit in that regard until last season and Smith wasn't afraid of putting air under the ball throwing it to Maclin.

Wilson killed the trust by giving up on every deep ball thrown his way. Conley had hands of stone last season.

It's hard to throw it deep when you don't have anyone who will catch it.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12528827)

So basically all the hoopla is over Foles playing ONE game while Smith is out...

Smith fans are pissed that Chiefs fans are excited to know that they have a solid backup and are excited to see him play for ONE ****ING GAME...

Smith and his horizontal wobble launcher will not be replaces by Foles...

You guys can stop panicking now.

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12528905)

No, but nice 180

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12528917)

You really think Reid is going to bench Downfield BigGame 2.0 "Horizontal Wobble Launcher Reincarnated" for Foles permanently...

Also I NEVER said it was a permanent replacement...

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12528922)

Hell no why would you bench a healthy starter

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12528685)

Nick Foles can't throw the ball any further than Alex Smith.

And Nick Foles isn't going to bust wide open Reid's offensive system.

If you think he is, you are absolutely delusional.

Reid's system is based on accuracy. Timing on routes. A strict route tree/patterns. Turnover margin. Time of possession.

And it wins football games.

Go ask a Cowboys fan.

Tony Romo versus Dak Prescott.

Ask Jet fans after the KC game how much they love a "gunslinger" type QB.

Foles is not a better QB than Smith and he's not going to be hurling the ball over the field. He's not going to go outside the system and freelance his way all over the field. The system works, and the system wins games.

I was thrilled when they signed Foles for exactly this situation. He's knows the system and is good enough to help keep this team in a couple of games if Smith were to go down with injury.

To keep Smith out of the Jags game and have Foles start is smart. But for the long term interest of the team's playoff success, Smith is, without question, the best option. By a very wide margin.

Alex Smith is a very good NFL QB. Especially for Reid's system. His win/loss record, accuracy %, TD/Int ratio, etc. during his time in KC proves it.

Frankly I'm absolutely stunned that he's been nearly vilified by a certain segment of Chiefs "fans" for being the near perfect QB for Reid's system that has led to winning records every year he's been here including two playoff appearances and a playoff win. The KC Chiefs fans "basket of deplorables" if you will.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12528929)

Nick Foles threw 27 touchdowns in 10 starts.

Alex Smith has never thrown more than 23 in an entire season.

That is the damning piece of evidence. I think I'm fairly well on-record having defended Smith against the army of idiots that pretend like somehow he's terrible for the team, or not capable of winning big games.

However, Foles absolutely has a different skill set - one that has been demonstrably more productive than Alex Smith's. They are wildly different players, so it's ridiculous to say that Smith is a better player "by a wide margin."

That's ****ing ridiculous. You can prefer Smith's skill set, but it is absolutely not better by a wide margin.

And if Foles is incapable of taking advantage of the deep pass in this system, then why did he have 5 passes of more than 28 yards while Smith only had ONE pass of more than 23?

Are you saying that Reid changed the play calling to fit Nick Roles? If so, then... ****ing right on.

If he DIDN'T change the play calling to fit Foles' skill set, then Foles' skill set allowed him to take better advantage of the play calling. either way, Foles vs. Smith is in NO WAY an open/shut case and the debate is only starting.

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12528935)

Maybe Smith fans vs CHIEFS fans part i see as a wrong impression. The hoopla started because an attention whore was building a bullshit platform dividing fans. Luckily the executioner pulled the lever.