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The Franchise 10-31-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12519655)
Bannable offense. This stuff is psychopath type of comments

No it's not. Shut the **** up.

DaneMcCloud 10-31-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12519524)
Not sure that's a fair characterization. Seems more Foles wanted to be the guy, with at least an opportunity a commitment from the franchise, and Keenum was willing to be the temporary placeholder for the Goff inevitability.

Foles was really, really bad last year and was beaten out by Case Keenum, who's nothing short of awful.

As it stands, 2013 was an outlier for Foles. Maybe after a few seasons in Reid's system, he could challenge for a starting position, whether it's in KC or elsewhere.

But right now, he's just a competent backup who needs to work on his fundamentals and mechanics.

bsroyals54 10-31-2016 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12519120)
Smith threw it better

Foles was 5 yards deeper than Smith, how so?

The Franchise 10-31-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12519677)
Foles was really, really bad last year and was beaten out by Case Keenum, who's nothing short of awful.

As it stands, 2013 was an outlier for Foles. Maybe after a few seasons in Reid's system, he could challenge for a starting position, whether it's in KC or elsewhere.

But right now, he's just a competent backup who needs to work on his fundamentals and mechanics.

Dude....Fisher is an idiot.

Baby Lee 10-31-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12519677)
Foles was really, really bad last year and was beaten out by Case Keenum, who's nothing short of awful.

As it stands, 2013 was an outlier for Foles. Maybe after a few seasons in Reid's system, he could challenge for a starting position, whether it's in KC or elsewhere.

But right now, he's just a competent backup who needs to work on his fundamentals and mechanics.

I'm not disputing that Foles underperformed in StL. I'm disputing that Keenum 'beat him out' in the sense of a straight up QB contest. Keenum's . . . . humility in recognizing the inevitability of Goff was a big consideration, from the perspective of both team culture and salary considerations.

Rams wanted a day player, not a headliner.

DaneMcCloud 10-31-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12519686)
Dude....Fisher is an idiot.

Fisher sucks but Foles was truly awful last year.

4-7 as a starter with 7 TD's and 10 INT's.

DaneMcCloud 10-31-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12519689)
I'm not disputing that Foles underperformed in StL. I'm disputing that Keenum 'beat him out' in the sense of a straight up QB contest. Keenum's . . . . humility in recognizing the inevitability of Goff was a big consideration, from the perspective of both team culture and salary considerations.

Rams wanted a day player, not a headliner.

I can't dispute this notion but why wait until the last week of July to cut him?

Both parties would have been better served if he was cut at the beginning of the new league year in March.

Sandy Vagina 10-31-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12519686)
Dude....Fisher is an idiot.

Maybe so, but this is the exact type of comment you and others would dismiss and label as an excuse, if talking about Smith.

TripleThreat 10-31-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 12519683)
Foles was 5 yards deeper than Smith, how so?

ROFL That "50 yard bomb" that foles threw, literraly sat in the air that seemed like forever, Hill had to stop, run back a few yards, sit there, and out-jump the DB for it....

If alex did that, ppl would be murdering him verbally because he "under threw" the ball. Regardless, what many in this thread may try to lead you to believe Alex doesnt under-throw many balls, and when he does, its not from a lack of arm, Foles literraly put everything he had into that throw, and that was the result...

Again, I am all for legit discussion about topics like this thread is about, but bottom-line is, many people in certain threads, like this one, are unable to have a serious, semi-serious, or basic discussion about the topic because they are so emotionally invested into hating alex-smith, that the same arguments they use for why "alex is bad", they use the same arguments as "excuses" for other quarterbacks not named Alex smith... A select few posters here are hypocritical, to the EXTREME, and they either know it, and are trolling, or are legit, lost in reality, because of some built up-emotional hatred for one football player.

Kiimo 10-31-2016 01:05 PM

Fisher is a bozo. The Rams defense is saving them utter humiliation.

I don't know if Foles can ever fulfill his promise once again (I hope so) but I also don't think he's ready.

When Smith retires I'd like to see Foles get his chance then and I hope that happens in two years. If he's still here.

Hammock Parties 10-31-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12519706)
ROFL That "50 yard bomb" that foles threw, literraly sat in the air that seemed like forever, Hill had to stop, run back a few yards, sit there, and out-jump the DB for it....

If alex did that, ppl would be murdering him verbally because he "under threw" the ball. Regardless, what many in this thread may try to lead you to believe Alex doesnt under-throw many balls, and when he does, its not from a lack of arm, Foles literraly put everything he had into that throw, and that was the result...

Again, I am all for legit discussion about topics like this thread is about, but bottom-line is, many people in certain threads, like this one, are unable to have a serious, semi-serious, or basic discussion about the topic because they are so emotionally invested into hating alex-smith, that the same arguments they use for why "alex is bad", they use the same arguments as "excuses" for other quarterbacks not named Alex smith... A select few posters here are hypocritical, to the EXTREME, and they either know it, and are trolling, or are legit, lost in reality, because of some built up-emotional hatred for one football player.

Alex's days are numbered. Get used to it. All the hot-air posts you can spew like this one won't change that fact.

TripleThreat 10-31-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12519710)
Alex's days are numbered. Get used to it. All the hot-air posts you can spew like this one won't change that fact.

You are one of the trolls, my post refers too. I give you credit for being entertaining

Beef Supreme 10-31-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12519701)
Maybe so, but this is the exact type of comment you and others would dismiss and label as an excuse, if talking about Smith.

Really, because I remember Alex Smith sucking so bad his first several years in the league that they were about to run him out of town before Harbaugh showed up. I don't remember him having a record breaking season during any of those years, either.

Alex got better. And it didn't hurt that he got into a system that was better for his talents and had a coach who knew how to use him.

Translate that as an excuse about Nick Foles if you want, but you'd be an idiot.

Sandy Vagina 10-31-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12519710)
Alex's days are numbered. Get used to it. All the hot-air posts you can spew like this one won't change that fact.

was said as a "fact" in 2007.. and he stayed put for another 5 years.


Cockroach Smith.

Hammock Parties 10-31-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12519724)
was said as a "fact" in 2007.. and he stayed put for another 5 years.


Cockroach Smith.

Football is a young man's game. An old, slow, concussed Alex Smith isn't going to stick around long. Whether by choice, or by force.


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