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rabblerouser 01-02-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269211)
If he's only working out a buyout, I'd ban the mother****er from Arrowhead. I don't want him with me, and I also don't want him around my business.

that's not how the GOB network in the NFL works; you don't publicly humiliate people, and you don't badmouth them in private. This is Clark's way if allowin Pioli to save some face.

The_Doctor10 01-02-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269221)
Phoenix in the winter versus KC in the winter.

Not a push.

Someone who's spent his entire life around the most demanding physical sport in the world is not going to make his decision based on what the weather is like. He may not like running the ball, but he's not a pussy.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9269198)
He's 290 lbs and plays DE. Of course he isn't.

Oops, yes I'm confusing him with someone else.

Anyway, Tyson Jackson has better numbers.

Messier 01-02-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9269195)
Just stating that if he's this awful and you are afraid of all this happening, why is there a thought that he's being kept?

Hunt said when Petro asked him if Pioli is getting fired, that there are still changes coming. That's all we have to go on. Maybe Hunt wants Pioli to stay as an assistant or something, I believe he's gone if the new coach wants him gone, but I don't know why he's still around.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269222)
It's not a negative either.

Listen, I want the guy fired too. But I can understand that Clark would like to recoup as much money as possible in the process.

Christ, some of you are acting like Clark is sitting in Dallas being fed Bon-Bons by a SMU sorority girl while Pioli is out running interviews.

Use some common ****ing sense.

I am using common sense, which has driven all of my comments since Monday.

There is nothing good that can come from having Pioli in the room. Common sense says that he's there to provide some kind of input. Common sense says that Hunt isn't dragging him along by a child leash because has to "keep an eye on him."

-King- 01-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9269234)
Oops, yes I'm confusing him with someone else.

Anyway, Tyson Jackson has better numbers.

LMAO

notorious 01-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BradBigglestein (Post 9269209)
Pros:/Cons:
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Thanks, and please stick around. We have a lot of opposing team fans on this site and we all get along pretty well.

BradBigglestein 01-02-2013 03:16 PM

I posted my pros and cons:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1034

You can ask any questions if you want.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9269231)
that's not how the GOB network in the NFL works; you don't publicly humiliate people, and you don't badmouth them in private. This is Clark's way if allowin Pioli to save some face.

No public humiliation? What the **** happened on Monday, then?

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269221)
Phoenix in the winter versus KC in the winter.

Not a push.

1st overall pick. Advantage KC.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9269223)
I think it's really close.

Some of the guys that played so well on the AZ defense last year did so because they were so well coached. If you would have swapped the entire personnel group in KC and AZ, I think the KC personnel group would've given you a better defense under the AZ coaching staff than they actually had this year.

Larry's a better player than Bowe and Michael Floyd might be a stud, but Bowe's no slouch and Charles is as valuable as any offensive player in the league.

Give KC a good coaching staff and allow them to fatten up on the SD and Oakland games while splitting with Denver and I think KC has a nice, clear path to the playoffs.

You can't understate how awful this coaching staff was this season.

The real difference in talent could be the depth of the respective squads (the Chiefs have none), but I can't claim to be able to speak intelligently to the Cardinals depth players. That may give AZ a slight edge, but I honestly don't see the Cards having a clear edge in starter talent.

At this point in time, there are no clear indications as to whether or not Bowe and Albert (and Dorsey) return. Personally, if it were me interviewing, I'd plan for those players to move on because there is absolutely no guarantee they'll return.

So, you'd need a left tackle, starting QB, starting ILB, starting safety, reliable TE (not named Moeaki) and possibly three starting receivers, not to mention depth and starters on the defensive line.

I give the definite edge to Arizona at this point.

Pioli really ****ed the Chiefs by not re-signing Carr and agreeing to a long term contract with Bowe. If he had, the Chiefs would be much more desirable to a head coach with options.

RunKC 01-02-2013 03:17 PM

Is there any confirmation that Pioli was NOT with Clark at Reid's interview?

TEX 01-02-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9269190)
Why didn't Hunt outright retain him?

Easy - he couldn't do that without experiencing overwhelming backlash from the fans - NOT good for season ticket sales. Instead, he can WAIT and see how things go and maybe the the circumstances will improve and Pioli can "settle" in to a role.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10 (Post 9269233)
Someone who's spent his entire life around the most demanding physical sport in the world is not going to make his decision based on what the weather is like. He may not like running the ball, but he's not a pussy.

What does being a pussy have to do with wanting to live in one of the nicest climates in the world?

I don't expect it to make a huge difference, but it absolutely could make a slight difference, especially when he's about to step off a a private jet into perfect freakin' weather down there.

Granted, come August he may regret the hell out of that decision, but the interview is happening today and that could absolutely have some sway.

I'd give SD all ties for exactly that reason. There's something to be said for getting to live someplace beautiful and warm while also getting paid a great deal of money.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9269237)
LMAO

Unlike a lot of people here, I can admit when I **** up.
:)


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