We have better weapons. They have more depth than we do.

Kelce, Hunt, Watkins, Hill, Conley...Ware? Chesson?

Howard, Cohen, Gabriel, Burton, Shaheen, Robinson........and then get back Kevin White and Cameron Meredith as insurance.

With their prized FA weapon coming off an ACL injury, and Kevin White always injured.

Not a fan of the Bears “weapons”.

OMG...absolutely no.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...206863339.html

Five positions the Chiefs could upgrade before the 2018 season

Kevin White as insurance. ROFL

That's some SR 22 bullshit.

We totally have the most weapons in the league guys. I’m sure that’s why Veach is on the phone with a 50 year old TE and Kendall Wright

ROFL

Pretty sure people have just been calling you on your bullshit....not trying to claim that the Chiefs have the most weapons.

Speaking of solid QB deals... the #Chiefs signed Chad Henne to a 2-year deal worth $6.7M, source said. He gets $4.15M in year one and
$5.1M guaranteed (into year 2). Henne has thrown 2 passes in 3 years #backuplife

This.

They definitely have more of a case than the ****ing Bears do though.

Those numbers don't make sense.. if it is 4.15M year one and 5.1M year two, how is that 6.7M total?

“Into year 2”

2018:

Base Salary - $1,015,000 fully guaranteed
Signing Bonus - $1,550,000
Workout Bonus - $35k
Cap Hit: $2,600,000

2019:

Base Salary - $2,500,000 ($1M guaranteed)
Signing Bonus - $1,550,000
Workout Bonus: $50k
Cap Hit: $4,100,000

You guys would rather have Watkins than Odell? Ya'll nuts.

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Odell would cost not only a draft pick (and a high one at that) but a brand new ****ing contract for a dude who's already had multiple off the field issues.

Better.. thanks.

It is quite a bit guaranteed, between signing bonus and base salary guarantee in year 2. oh well.

We just gave a brand new contract to a dude that can't stay on the field and produce.

Odell is nuts... he has said he wants to be paid more than anyone else in football. Seriously..

Exactly. With all of our holes on defense, we’re better off holding on to our picks.

A 3 year deal, yes. That deal can also be gone around the time that we'll need to pay for Hill.

Odell wants $20 million a season.

Odell can't want the moon made out of cheese. Doesn't mean he'll get it.

[QUOTE=O.city;13491655]You guys would rather have Watkins
No player is worth the trouble he causes. They constantly answer questions about OBJ 24/7. He's a drama queen to the max and gets by on pure talent. Not a leader at all and certainly not worth forking over a large deal. You pay mature players that a re studs and leaders that act professional. He is none of that.

Bullshit?

Wilson is gone
Conley probably won’t be completely ready due to Achilles
Ware probably won’t be ready due to MCL
Incompletions Harris should be cut yesterday
Demarcus Robinson is very overrated
DAT sucks

Not bullshit when our GM shares this opinion and has signed a RB and is actively talking deals with Kendall Wright and Ben Watson

You guys remember you wanna hold on to the picks. Don't me ball washing when Veach uses them to trade up this year.

Reading is imperative

Was this supposed to be English?

Your reading comprehension ****ing sucks.

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Yea, but it’s a different story if we’re using them to trade up for a defensive player.

Nick Jacobs says we have $7.3 million in cap space after Damien Williams.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jacobs71/...46811790446593

But with all the holes, wouldn't you say we need more picks not less?

Yeah I definitely missed that...

Yeah, sorry.

Just saying everyone now is against trading picks. But when they trade picks in the draft, it'll be ok.

Seems off to me.

I do agree wit RunKC in that the Bears could have the best weapons if all works out well.

Theres a few teams I'd take over them right now, but in the future maybe no.

I'd say the top line the CHiefs can put up there is right there with anyone right now.

Yea, but we’d be trading up to plug one of those holes, presumably with a 1st round talent, as opposed to trading a draft pick for a WR, so I’d be fine with that.

If we traded up for a LG, I’d be pissed.

Keep that cap room for draft and rollover next year

I'm just not sure about trading up due to the cost or likely cost.

Watkins has missed 12 games to injury. OBJ has missed 16.

If I were the Browns, I'd offer 4 and 33 to the Giants for Odell.

Now lets look at their production.

Same here, but if we do, I get it.

Depends on the cost.

If it's not terrible, do it.

My thing is, let’s learn from the past. We get a brash of injuries every year. Look at who we have put out there as depth to cover for those injuries.

Frank Zombo, Kenneth Acker, Philip Gaines, Justin Hamilton, Incompletrious Harris, Orson Charles.

Really want Veach to work on that. It’s been a big problem IMO

Wut? Dudes super talented but there's way too many ?s about him to invest that much draft capital into him.

That's league wide though.

Usually, the teams left standing are the ones that stay the healthiest. Lotta luck in play.

They definitely need more depth though.

You should follow other NFL teams more. KC had fewer injuries than most teams in 2017

It wouldn't bother me at all because the Chiefs have been looking for a long term solution at LG since Brian Waters retired.

A stud left guard would also help Morse and Fisher, along with finally being able to have a serious ground attack between the tackles.

Yeah I get that. My main takeaway from it was Zombo. We all loathed having this guy on the field in 2016. Glad they addressed it and got Tanoh in the draft.

We seemed to have struck gold with Terrance Mitchell at first. It sucks that he fell apart last season. I think we all thought that we stole a solid corner.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m fine with taking a LG at any point in the draft. I just wouldn’t like to see us waste more than one pick to do so.

wut

Since Colquitt was re-signed and the Chiefs have Butker, I'm good with them packaging a 6th or 7th with their 2nd round pick to move up and grab a guard, safety, CB or D lineman and if a stud is there, one of their 4th round picks.

I still believe it's highly unlikely that the Chiefs are able adequately address every need long term this offseason so if the 10 year starter at guard is there, get him.

I’d be fine with that as well. I should’ve specified any trade up including our 2nd AND a 3rd in 2018/2019 (or better).

O is a damn loon

Way too much for Odell- yes he is a premier receiver but OBJ's value takes a slight dip since he is due for a massive raise next season. Two first round picks (essentially) on their rookie deals for the next 4 seasons has way more value in my opinion.

If Braden Smith is there at #54.....I'm taking him.

And got knocked out in a nightclub not too long ago

Have you looked up Frank Ragnow? OL from Arkansas who can play G or C. Gave up zero sacks in 41 games in the SEC.

He just seems like a guy Andy would love. I have a strong suspicion that he could be our pick at 54.

This.

All these weapons are useless if Mahomes doesn't have time or is on his ass.

And think back to how bad we were at times in short yardage. It wasn't because of Hunt (who's tough as nails) it was because our line was getting dominated...

Doesn't Watkins have one of the best TD record's In NFL history by the age of 24? I believe he may have been ranked In the top ten or something.

His whole family are Chiefs fans as well apparently.

I think there may be a starting LG in the 3rd round, I'd prefer moving up for a safety, or corner.

You forgot we have Robinson, DAT and Williams on the roster as well? The only Bears offensive weapon who would have a chance at KC is Robinson, the rest don't even come close to the quality we have imo.

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All you ****s that called me out for saying it was crazy can suck one.

LMAO

#23 I believe is about fair value for OBJ. Interesting to see if Giants bite or not.

Yeah maybe, it's all speculation at this point but I will say that if 5 QB's do go in the first round, there should be plenty of options for the Chiefs at #54.

Oh yeah, I'm with you there but I would be shocked if Veach gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for a guard.

Actually, I'd be shocked if Veach gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for any player.

Not only is that a lot of draft capital for one player, it also puts an enormous amount of pressure on that player to perform at a high level immediately.

You’d take OBJ over Sammy Watkins?

Not me.

Yeah, this is why I'm just not a huge fan of trading up. They're already lacking in picks this year.

Uh, yeah.

And pay him $20 million plus each year? And give up multiple picks since we don't have a 1st round pick?

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Here's a good backup TE to Kelce.

Sure?

As I mentioned earlier, I’m good with packaging up a 6 and either or both of their 7’s but there’s likely to be too much value in the third to trade either of those picks.

It also wouldn’t kill me to see them package up one of their 4th’s with the 2nd or 3rd to get a guy that projects as an immediate starter/rotational player, but the thirds just hold too much value this year to package with a 2nd, IMO.

I'll be interested to see the cost of a potential move up.

I'd give up one of the additional picks, but I always prefer a pick in each round.

I wouldn’t be shocked at all.

In fact, I kinda expect it.

He sure seems like he wants to get back into the first round.

Here’s my thinking based on verbiage used by Veach and Dorsey in the past on how they stack their board.

They will have a group of “elite” talent, position by position and which of those fits what they are looking for at each position and weigh each one on impact value they would supply. Then, it’s “next tier talent” (this is where they had Kareem Hunt graded)...so on and so forth.

After that, they are going to have a board based on team needs the next 3 years and how they want to form the roster based on meed, current players and the cap situation of the team.

That will give them groupings of players for each position that they give a total grade on that factors everything in.

If a guy with an elite grade at a position of need slips to the 20s in the draft, I think there’s a high likelihood they package this and next years second to move up to get him so they get that fifth year option.

Today NFL team owners will vote to increase the debt limit for the Rams new stadium, which according to internal league documents is now projected to cost an amazing $4.963 billion.

Loon.