Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801152)

This might just be a miscommunication. And yeah, it may STILL be Kingsley's fault, but remember late last season when everyone was saying "Just chip at LT..." and I think it was Schwartz that was saying "Guys, it's not that simple..."

He was telling folks that 'just chip' isn't a panacea because most OTs struggle to deal with that chip help when they don't know how the chip is going to actually go. Kingsley has no way to know that Kelce's not just going to redirect the guys shoulder but instead is going to shove him across into the adjacent gap.

A lot of the time a chip is just designed to turn a guy sideways and keep his hands down so the OT can get into him. Kelce did way more than that there and shoved him clear into the other gap.

Now maybe that was what he was supposed to do but it's also possible, even likely, that Kelce just got a little amped up and put more into it than Kingsley expected.

That is MUCH more complicated than y'all are making it. Because if Kelce doesn't blast that guy and Kingsley doesn't set up wide there, the rusher just beats him to the outside again. And Kingsley is completely reactionary there. He has no way to know what Kelce is going to do there until he does it.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17801222)

Looks to me like he doesn't anticipate and get deep enough on speed rushes on obvious passing downs.

I mean the coaching staff knows what is going on... we started running more this season because the LT is a weakness and to keep the rush honest.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17801197)

Has there ever been an OL that has looked as bad as Kingsley and worked out?

Yes I get Fisher struggled mightily he first year starting. Even struggled year 2. He was not anywhere near this bad though.

This is KeiVarae Russell territory. I seriously have to wonder if Andy Heck has brought up the possibility that this kid just isn’t an NFL player and they blipped the pick.

Not trying to be negative here but I just don’t see anything that flashes for him aside from his athleticism on screens.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801282)

We're gonna find out what the staff thinks about Kingsley's performance soon enough.

If they think he was as bad as Run does, you'll see Ethan Driskell as a gameday active next week - simple as that.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17800199)

I genuinely think it's because they never saw him against speed.

We don't HAVE any. So who the hell is he going to against in Camp that shows that he can't handle guys who can attack his outside shoulder relentlessly?

The guys that have killed him have just DESTROYED his outside shoulder. Over and over and over and over again.

And he just doesn't know how/where/when to aim and deliver his punch on guys like that.

Its kinda crazy to me.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801214)

I'm sure there will be some play by play breakdowns of his performance over the course of the week.

And I don't think they're gonna paint a rosy picture by any means.

But I do think they'll demonstrate that he wasn't out there tripping over his feet on every play. He showed a decent base and functional strength. He showed solid athleticism. He showed some traits.

He just couldn't handle Bonitto at all. Especially when he was out in that 9 position. I'm hopeful someone like Keysor does a breakdown of some of the plays where he was successful because I think there were more than you realize.

There was a play where Mahomes got hit, maybe late 2nd quarter, deeper in our territory. And EVERYONE in the game thread bagged on Kingsley. I really didn't understand it because I specifically watched him on the play and he stood his guy up and then drove him inside into the trash. And eventually Mahomes got hit but it was because the pocket just got pushed in and he held the ball waaaaaay too long. But Kingsley did his job there yet he was still getting trashed because Mahomes took contact.

Maybe I missed it - I'm open to that possibility. But it's certainly not what I saw.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801282)

We're gonna find out what the staff thinks about Kingsley's performance soon enough.

If they think he was as bad as Run does, you'll see Ethan Driskell as a gameday active next week - simple as that.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801282)

We're gonna find out what the staff thinks about Kingsley's performance soon enough.

If they think he was as bad as Run does, you'll see Ethan Driskell as a gameday active next week - simple as that.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17801387)

He needs a full reset. Start his offseason right now, he shouldn't put the pads on again for a game this year.

Then, if he gives a **** about his career, which I sadly worry about after seeing him show no concern for Mahomes on the ground, he will do WHATEVER it takes to improve. Work with Duke, Heck, IDC. But it should be his sole focus every day damn near all day; ironing out those really bad habits.