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Sorce 04-23-2024 06:30 PM

He's not going to prison.

Adam Shitburger tweets he will probably get a multi game suspension and the sky is falling when most assumed he would get 2-4 appeal and get half.

Tired of seeing the punishment porn from the rest of the league's drooling mouth breathers.

seamonster 04-24-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17491128)
It will fall under the insurance limits. The victim's attorney's made them sound really bad, but no one spent the night in the hospital. I think DJ talked about tort reform that is in Texas and the damages are capped as well.

Fool street raced into a Yaris with his rented lambo. He's paying in some way shape or form.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17491639)
Fool street raced into a Yaris with his rented lambo. He's paying in some way shape or form.

Yes, but it will most likely be covered under his insurance limits.

Katipan 04-24-2024 09:44 AM

His rental vehicle insurance isn't going to cover anything since he used the car in the manner that he did.

He could have insurance through a personal car but id be curious to see what the cover is for using a rental car in a prohibited manner.

Does he have personal all encompassing insurance at his age and maturity level? I dunno.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491759)
His rental vehicle insurance isn't going to cover anything since he used the car in the manner that he did.

He could have insurance through a personal car but id be curious to see what the cover is for using a rental car in a prohibited manner.

Does he have personal all encompassing insurance at his age and maturity level? I dunno.

He wasn't charged with street racing or a felony leading up to the accident. The charges are felonies due to leaving the scene, not the acts of the accident. I think this is the reason his attorney advised him to admit he was driving, otherwise the insurance wouldn't have covered the damages.

Katipan 04-24-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17491938)
He wasn't charged with street racing or a felony leading up to the accident. The charges are felonies due to leaving the scene, not the acts of the accident. I think this is the reason his attorney advised him to admit he was driving, otherwise the insurance wouldn't have covered the damages.

Im sure there is massive evidence he was driving.

They know exactly how fast the cars were going in the last 10 seconds and he was driving on the shoulder.

Its weird how dearly you hope insurance covers it. You know ultimately that means you are covering it.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491957)
Im sure there is massive evidence he was driving.

They know exactly how fast the cars were going in the last 10 seconds and he was driving on the shoulder.

Its weird how dearly you hope insurance covers it. You know ultimately that means you are covering it.

I don't hope anything. It's just how it works. If you are driving fast and cause a wreck insurance covers it. That's why young men play way higher rates than others. If you are committing felony while driving high, drunk or fleeing pursuit, racing they can refuse to pay, but many times they don't. None of those applied in this case. The victims injuries in this case usually have pain and suffering in 5 digit range, not the 8 digit range and Texas has very straight forward punative damage rules/limits?

It will be interesting to see how this transpires on how the Corvette and their liability with Rashee being the owner and his friend driving will proceed as well.

Katipan 04-24-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17491971)
I don't hope anything. It's just how it works. If you are driving fast and cause a wreck insurance covers it. That's why young men play way higher rates than others. If you are committing felony while driving high, drunk or fleeing pursuit, racing they can refuse to pay, but many times they don't. None of those applied in this case. The victims injuries in this case usually have pain and suffering in 5 digit range, not the 8 digit range and Texas has very straight forward punative damage rules/limits?

It will be interesting to see how this transpires on how the Corvette and their liability with Rashee being the owner and his friend driving will proceed as well.

The rules are different when you rent someone else's property. That's why all the paperwork.

Bob Dole 04-24-2024 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491759)
His rental vehicle insurance isn't going to cover anything since he used the car in the manner that he did.

He could have insurance through a personal car but id be curious to see what the cover is for using a rental car in a prohibited manner.

Does he have personal all encompassing insurance at his age and maturity level? I dunno.

I’m assuming his rental was from one of those exotic rental car places in Dallas and not Hertz, so I don’t know how their insurance is set up. Pretty sure if I rent a Lamborghini, they know I’m going to speed.

Katipan 04-24-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 17491976)
I’m assuming his rental was from one of those exotic rental car places in Dallas and not Hertz, so I don’t know how their insurance is set up. Pretty sure if I rent a Lamborghini, they know I’m going to speed.

Sure, go rent one and let's see the waiver.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491974)
The rules are different when you rent someone else's property. That's why all the paperwork.

Yes, most, if not all exotic rentals require a supplemental insurance policy. It is issued by a 3rd party and would be no different than other auto policies as it would have a deductible and limits. If they don't require the supplemental insurance, his personal coverage would be enough if his limits were appropriate.: Here is one of those companies that provides rental insurance.

https://www.primeis.com/product-line...hird%20parties.

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Prime Insurance Company offers insurance for exotic car rentals to both businesses and individuals. If your client is renting an exotic car, this insurance pays for injuries or damage sustained by others due to an accident resulting from their negligence. If your client is the owner of an exotic car rental company, then Prime can offer insurance to cover general business risks stemming from the use of these vehicles as well as coverage for the fleet, their property, and more.
I rented a BMW i8 when we went to SB 54 in Miami, they required the supplemental insurance and it's not cheap. I believe it was $85 a day. I bought it despite having personal coverage because a fender bender would have been crazy expensive and raised my personal rates drastically.

Katipan 04-24-2024 04:07 PM

Now check your exclusions.

This took like 3 seconds.

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However, if the vehicle is obtained through fraud or you have an accident resulting from use of the car in a manner prohibited by paragraph 5. of the Rental Agreement, LDW is void and you will be responsible for all loss or damage to the car.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17492333)
Now check your exclusions.

This took like 3 seconds.

This took like 3 seconds to find what's prohibited. I've probably rented close to 1000 cars in 25 years of traveling for my job...

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Prohibited Uses that may result in full liability include either you or an authorised driver incurring overhead or undercarriage damage, driving on unsealed roads, failing to safeguard the vehicle (e.g., leaving keys in vehicle) or allowing an unauthorised driver to drive the vehicle.

Katipan 04-24-2024 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17492429)
This took like 3 seconds to find what's prohibited. I've probably rented close to 1000 cars in 25 years of traveling for my job...

😂😂

No way that is the full list. Where is your source?

TwistedChief 04-24-2024 07:56 PM

Get a room, you two.

And I mean a conference room.

To debate rental car contract legalese.

Booooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnggggg...


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