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Sassy Squatch 01-27-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14075550)
Right or wrong....Andy’s legacy is riding on this hire.

I agree. This was the most important coaching hire of his career.

Redbled 01-27-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14075305)
We were in the ****ing redzone with just over 2 minutes left. You cannot possibly be so obtuse as to suggest clock could not have been run here, forcing timeouts out of NE and burning the 2 min warning before scoring the go ahead td. Intelligent coaches do not leave time for the other team, and certainly not over 2 min with 4 time stoppages and going against the worst d on the planet.

Not sure why this concept is so difficult to grasp. We did the same thing when we played NE in the regular season.

And something that has not been discussed enough was Reid calling that first half TO with Brady having a 3rd and 4. We lost at least 4 points and very likely 7. They seemed content amazingly enough to go into the half up 7-0.

Chris Meck 01-27-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14075550)
Right or wrong....Andy’s legacy is riding on this hire.

Well...probably. Not necessarily.

Our window could be open for 15 years or more.

If Spagnuolo fails to field a respectable defense and Reid moves on quickly, then that next DC hire will be more important as his time in coaching will be nearing the end.

He just can't let it linger for 6 years or something if it's not working. He'll need to move on quickly.

But I think it's going to be fine, and Spags will do a decent job, and we're going to win a SB or two in the next few years.

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2019 11:57 AM

But if things don't work out with Spagnuolo, he'll probably get another chance with yet another DC.

Or what Meck said

Discuss Thrower 01-27-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 14075556)
Not sure why this concept is so difficult to grasp. We did the same thing when we played NE in the regular season.

And something that has not been discussed enough was Reid calling that first half TO with Brady having a 3rd and 4.


Given Belicheck and Brady obviously having their way with Sutton's defense, it is definitely not certain KC would have made a stop..

However, Reid's timeout on that drive was probably the worst tactical decision he made in 2018 since it stopped the clock and gave the Pats almost 60 extra seconds to work with.

O.city 01-27-2019 12:05 PM

I do think they’d have been better off had Watkins fallen down at the 5 instead of the 1.

Could have ran some clock and used the pats timeoits

O.city 01-27-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14075559)
Given Belicheck and Brady obviously having their way with Sutton's defense, it is definitely not certain KC would have made a stop..

However, Reid's timeout on that drive was probably the worst tactical decision he made in 2018 since it stopped the clock and gave the Pats almost 60 extra seconds to work with.

You’ve gotta try and get your offense the ball back there. If you get a stop and go score you can double up around halftime

Defense didn’t get the stop thouhh

RunKC 01-27-2019 12:09 PM

Just a hunch, but I think this is going to be a very interesting offseason. I foresee a lot of movement and interesting decisions being made.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-27-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14075558)
But if things don't work out with Spagnuolo, he'll probably get another chance with yet another DC.

Or what Meck said

Reid and Mahomes are tied at the hip and that's something we're just going to have to deal with. That said, I don't think that's a bad thing. You have to remember, the dynamic between a QB of Mahome's caliber and a head coach, even a stubborn one like Reid, is going to develop and change over time. This relationship is YOUNG. We only see absolutes because the kid is such a natural and it already feels like he's been here longer than he actually has.

Redbled 01-27-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14075565)
You’ve gotta try and get your offense the ball back there. If you get a stop and go score you can double up around halftime

Defense didn’t get the stop thouhh

What chance honestly at the time did you give us to stop Brady on 3rd and 4. 10 percent would be generous. Bad TO when you are not the Ravens D.

Simply Red 01-27-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14075575)
Just a hunch, but I think this is going to be a very interesting offseason. I foresee a lot of movement and interesting decisions being made.

I think I agree w/ that feel.

Chris Meck 01-27-2019 01:03 PM

honestly,

I have a hunch that they're going to cut bait on ALL of the big 3 on defense. Houston, Berry, and tag and trade Ford.
(before anyone yells about not being able to cut Berry, nobody's been able to clarify if a non-football injury, which this would be would prohibit cutting him.)

I have a hunch that maybe they might want to give Spags a clean lockerroom, no distractions. Sign a couple veterans that he likes to fill holes, draft heavy on defense again and go at it.

I don't want to hear about 'but the passrush' because Ford is one dimensional and not worth the money he'll get, Houston is injured half the time, and Berry all the time.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-27-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14075751)
honestly,

I have a hunch that they're going to cut bait on ALL of the big 3 on defense. Houston, Berry, and tag and trade Ford.
(before anyone yells about not being able to cut Berry, nobody's been able to clarify if a non-football injury, which this would be would prohibit cutting him.)

I have a hunch that maybe they might want to give Spags a clean lockerroom, no distractions. Sign a couple veterans that he likes to fill holes, draft heavy on defense again and go at it.

I don't want to hear about 'but the passrush' because Ford is one dimensional and not worth the money he'll get, Houston is injured half the time, and Berry all the time.

I can't even begin to express how much I love this idea. Keep Jones and Nandi, and let everyone else fly if they aren't a tight fit.

saphojunkie 01-27-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14075751)
honestly,

I have a hunch that they're going to cut bait on ALL of the big 3 on defense. Houston, Berry, and tag and trade Ford.
(before anyone yells about not being able to cut Berry, nobody's been able to clarify if a non-football injury, which this would be would prohibit cutting him.)

I have a hunch that maybe they might want to give Spags a clean lockerroom, no distractions. Sign a couple veterans that he likes to fill holes, draft heavy on defense again and go at it.

I don't want to hear about 'but the passrush' because Ford is one dimensional and not worth the money he'll get, Houston is injured half the time, and Berry all the time.

I agree, but I honestly think they will extend Houston. I think he fights marvelously into the 4-3 as being able to play either DE position as well as the SAM.

If I am Veach, I am working hard to extend Houston, converting his salary to signing bonus and thus guaranteeing it, but bringing his cap number down to around 12M for the next three years, which seems to be appropriate value.

GloryDayz 01-27-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14075430)
When your defense is made from poorly coached underachievers, duct tape, and slow-assed Hobos, it doesn't matter how slow or fast you score.

I'ith don't'ith disagree'ith...


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