I actually tend to agree about not giving up on him as an OT. Maybe you play him next to Moore for a year or two and then see where he is and he potentially takes over that spot if Moore doesn't pan out, or ends up asking for too much cash on his extension.

I really don't think anything is set in stone yet, because like you said, I really don't think they even know what they for sure have yet.

Same reason Fisher and Schwartz didn't get callbacks. The dick has snapped off the bone. It's over.

That's something Reid specifically mentioned IIRC, putting him at OG for a year or two to develop and then moving him back outside.

If Kingsley does one day end up kicking back out to tackle, some of you need to suuuuuuuck myyyy diiiiiick

So what's the deal we get this dude for relatively cheap for a LT and also draft a LT?

My guess is the Chiefs viewed the draft as too unpredictable and didn't want to enter mini-camp having completely missed out on the position.

If we can't get even one single multi-year solution at LT out of this level of investment (a 3rd, 2nd, 1st round pick in consecutive draft years plus the Moore contract) then we're reeeeeally unlucky.

It's not just Left Tackle. You are also trying to get RT and LG figured out for the long haul. Jawaan Taylor will be gone from the RT spot next year. Left Guard is not 100% settled. Hoping Kingsley can do it, but what if he's a bust? If you get lucky and Simmons/Moore are both pretty solid players, maybe you have at least helped settle a couple of spots in the OL room.

Moore is LT or nothing, I'm afraid.

He reeeeeally sucked at RT for the Niners

I've thought all along they drafted Moore as a bit of a hedge against Simmons just in case they actually were able to draft him. Which they were.

The good ole 21mil guaranteed hedge.

To be sure that Mahomes stays upright? A steal.

LMAO I couldn't give any less of a shit. Also, Reid was pretty open yesterday about this being a 3 man competition for 2 jobs. Taylor better fix his shit and fast because that is just as much a shot across his bow as anything.

For sure, we need to fix the trenches if we want to win more Super Bowls. The Eagles had a juggernaut on both sides of the ball and when they lose guys they just reload with proven SEC monsters.

Using the hedge logic a better hedge would be Cam Robinson who has proven to be solid over a whole season across multiple seasons and who cost almost $10mil less.

He's trash.

You do realize that Cam Robinson signed that deal NINE DAYS after the negotiating window opened, yeah? Because he had a way overinflated asking price. That's an absolutely horrible strategy to just sit around and wait to well over a week into free agency while all the other talent is snapped up before the legal free agency period even began.

Sure. But so is Moore if we're 0 games into his contract and we're already trying to replace him. Difference is that at least you still have the $10mil difference to spend on another player that can help you.

Idk, I'm still looking for the memo everyone except me got about Moore.

Veach said in his press conference that it is a long season, and that Jaylon Moore has to stay healthy. Also said tackles are HARD to come by. I think he has finally learned the lesson of having great OL depth & Mahomes can't keep running for his life and taking the hits, especially as he goes into his 30's.

Very true, but we are stuck with Taylor regardless, for at least this season.

Dumb **** King is clueless per usual

My money is on Simmons/Moore as opening day starters.

Taylor's days of ruining drives are over. He'll sit on the bench unless someone gets hurt and be gone after next year. He'll be a nice, albeit insanely expensive, depth piece to have. If Simmons has issues or gets hurt, you move Moore back to LT and Taylor can pop in.

Moore was pretty bad as a RT for the 49ers.

Might be an Eric Fisher situation. Some guys just can't move to the opposite side of the line like that.

Moore is a question mark. He's not trash (yet). In either case, you don't bank on a question mark being your answer if you've had the awful streak of bad luck the Chiefs have had at OT

I know Taylor is frustrating at times but when he's on he's the best tackle on our roster.

He’s also expensive and would cost too much in dead cap to cut until 2026, IIRC. He’s going to be given absolutely every last opportunity to maintain his starting role.

Anyone who expects a career backup LT or a rookie LT with a shredded kneecap to supplant him this season should rethink things.

Most likely scenario (provided the Chiefs are right about his knee) is a redshirt in 2025, an apprenticeship at RT in 2026 and a move over to LT in 2027.

He's not winning the job out of camp over a two year starter in Taylor. And he'll only beat out Moore if Moore completely falls on his face. That seems unlikely for a 4 year veteran who's been through this stuff several times already.

I'm not expecting it at all. The fact that Reid even brought up the possibility is what's telling.

More likely that Moore is going to be your starting LG

So they've already lit a recent 2nd round pick on fire? Yikes.

Taylor will be the most expensive backup ever. He's set to make $27million this year. That will look really bad if he's not starting. I expect Moore/Taylor to be the starters. There's no reason to rush Simmons back.

You did watch last year, right? You want a guard trying to play tackle again?

We went from having zero left tackle to having two. I'm on board with that.

Kind of silly that anybody expected anything less considering how Veach hammers glaring needs/holes.

People are talking about Wanya Morris but man is this quote pretty damning for Jawaan Taylor. This is like an employee being put on a performance plan. They are not happy with him at all.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked about the tackle rotation, head coach Andy Reid reiterates what he has said in the past: best five. Mentions that Jaylon Moore can also play right tackle. Truly sounds like the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> will have a three-way battle (Josh Simmons, Jawaan Taylor, Moore) for two spots.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1915616189977419954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Deshaun Watson says hi.

If Taylor was anything like Watson, he'd be pulling early at the massage table.

There's also no reason not to play Simmons if he's ready, which Reid seems incredibly confident he will be. Then it's all about earning a starting job.

If Simmons is so good, nd he’s going to take a year to actually take a starting a position….why did we trade into the second round to take him?

Is a late 5th round pick worth giving up an affordable 5th year on his contract, not being a first round selection, which automatically comes with the affordable 5th year?

Wha?

Yikes, quoting Pete Sweeny.. Might as well anoint him the "Teicher Award" for stating the obvious. Hello, news flash... It's the same as it ever was. Why would he change it up now? Throw them all in a crucible and let it cook. Deflect media questions.

LMAO

Huh?

We took him with the last pick of the 1st. We have the 5th year option on him.

We've been to 5 Super Bowls in 6 years, and there are still fans that think they know better than these guys. It's really kind of weird.

Don't get me wrong, I'll disagree at times, but I always end my post with "I am clueless and will trust them." :) These guys who just harp on every move they don't agree with, I just can't understand.

Yeah - this is what Reid says. Every time.

Doesn't mean anything.

Like I said when people were throwing out made up quotes from Reid and Veach - if the quote is interesting, it's almost certainly bullshit.

Because Andy never says ANYTHING. It's all coachspeak.

He might provide insight into things that have already happened on occasion, but never on future developments.

How could they be? He's a top 3 paid RT and plays like the bottom 20s.

If you ask me, this pick was more about replacing Taylor than it was Moore.

They get things wrong.

They get them wrong less often than most. And they get them wrong less often than guys on the internet.

But they absolutely have a number of miscalculations on their résumé.

All the people here who have been defending Jawaan Taylor the past two years… say hi.

Agreed. I hated giving up a 5th rounder we didn’t have, only to draft a guy in the first round, but post date him to the 2nd round so we don’t get the 5th year option. I don’t understand Veach’s wizardry on that one.

Veach is truly a wizard if he made the 32nd pick a second rounder...KC GAINED a 5th rounder for dropping a slot.

You don’t do well with sarcasm, do you? How did anything I said make any sense at all? LMAO

Given the 2nd round has not started yet, maybe he still can change his mind on the pick.

If they feel Moore can play RT, that at least makes things make more sense.

Regardless of however we feel about Taylor good or bad, no way he's staying next year at his cap figure.

Without a doubt, and I'm a big believer that Reid/Mahomes/Spags make up for a lot of those miscalculations on gameday, and they shouldn't have to keep doing so. The thing is, I really believe Reid and Mahomes have a lot more input than the average HC/QB, obviously. I think they have both been more than onboard for some of the flop picks like CEH and Skyy.

They will live and die by their process, and so far you can't possibly argue with the results. I mean, going into the season with Moore/Taylor as basically your only two tackles was asking for disaster again, and to have a top 10 talent slip to you at 32 is a risk I'm willing to take either way. This isn't like the CEH, FAU and Skyy picks where you were reaching. This is taking a homerun swing, and I'll never have a problem with that.

Sure.

But what if we have a runner on 2nd and 3rd in a 1 run ballgame?

Might that be the case when we have just signed Jaylon Moore and there is a lot of reason to believe that he can be a good solution to the LT issue?

Maybe a more accurate situation would be a runner on 1st and 3rd in that 1 run ballgame. And maybe we're not in the 9th -- we're in the 8th.

Now a single doesn't win it...but really, a homer doesn't either. But man, it would be really nice to have the lead, so you're not looking for a single, but you're looking for that double that drives in 2.

in either event, you really don't wanna strike out. So maybe the HR swing isn't strictly necessary because the HR isn't necessary OR dispositive in its own right.

I totally understand what you're saying, but I really have no problem with this team having three starting caliber tackles. Last year we barely had even one, and you saw the end result. I'm in agreement with you that I wouldn't have made the pick, but I do get what they were thinking. They simply can't let Mahomes get destroyed anymore. They have to go above and beyond to make sure it doesn't happen.

What happens with the next three picks will also go a long way in making this pick more palatable. If they land a RB, WR and DL who are day one contributors today (which is entirely possible) I'll be pretty happy with how everything turned out.

Only time will tell, all we can do is watch now.

What are you talking about?

My post was suggesting that:

Cam + Simmons + $10mil in cap space > Jaylon + Simmons

Disagree?

It was reported well before Robinson actually signed that he's not a guy teams like off the field. That's why it took him solong to sign. You'd know this if you had a clue, but instead you just bitch.

You're the only person today confused about the Chiefs taking a T. Everybody else is just arguing about the injury concerns. Literally nobody but you doesn't understand why they took the position.

I think we only ever defended him because he was the best we freaking had!

I can't wait to sit his ass on the bench and boot him off this team now. ;)

You probably should stop replying to me then. Save people the trouble of having to read my posts twice. Run along Scrappy.