Exactly. Rest him. Its week 1.

No disagreements. I just don't see Kelce holding himself out over pain. It will have to be a coaching decision that keeps him from playing. Personally I don't think he should play nor do I think his absence will be the reason KC loses, if indeed that happens.

Kelce on Thursday

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It's week 1, and we've got a ton of unproven talent in the WR room. Let Kelce rest and let's see how this thing goes.

MY ****ING MAN

Another brick in the shrine to the GOAT! Reid and Mahomes. Awesome. Fire. The world needs more men like this.

My daughter hyperextended her knee playing basketball to the point it chipped some bone off the top of her tibia.

Ouch. Did she need surgery?

My friend once hyperextended his knee so much he displaced his kneecap up into his thigh.

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Nope she got extremely lucky. They didn't even remove the bone chip. She is double jointed so it probably helped create the issue but also saved her tendons I think.

And nah, I'm not posting pics.

And Holy Jesus I cant imagine that much movement from a knee cap.

Looks like every talking head is now taking the Lions. Guess they said we were done when Hill left too.

Who cares what a bunch of talking heads think?

Reminds me of the Bulls in the 90s.

(Or the Chiefs last year)

I have been watching the line go down trying to figure out when the right time is to throw my cash in

The Lions are one of the "hot" stories coming into the year, lots of people have them winning the division and they have some big time young playmakers...it's a pick people are making because it's what they want to happen.

Listed as questionable.

Hmmmm

the chiefs are boring now. picking them doesn't generate any juice because yeah they're probably going to win. the lions are the trendy pick.

it's going to be a shootout and i can't think of a reason not to pick mahomes in a shootout

It's better to play Detroit now than later...

I think they'll be better when Gibbs settles in and Williams comes back...when you put their whole offense together that talent level is very very high.

Didn't Williams leave in FA?

Goff is the QB.

Believe he talking about Jameson Williams.

I'm talking about Jameson not Jamaal, they signed Montgomery to take Jamaals role.

who went 29-7 with over 4k yards last year man...Goff is surrounded with a top 5 line and playmakers he just has to put the ball in guys hands.

Small sample size would say that's a fluke compared to the larger one of his career right?

Did you see the difference in home and away games though?

He's a pumpkin on the road.

I think the dome helps, his home/away splits are kinda crazy.

I think Goff is a solid QB who can look really good when he has weapons which is what Detroit has done for him.

So he is Kirk Cousins for one year?

Also his away game numbers - 6TDs- 4 INTs. He did all his damage at home.

I'm not saying he rules, just saying he's a solid QB with a lot of weapons.

They're likely to finish in the top 5 of offenses this year.

Have the sports books made enough so he can be declared fine

Ben Johnson is also an excellent OC

He went 29-7 last year? God this regular season expansion shit is getting out of hand!

That's been going on for over a week now.

Guy with two bad knees concurs. Played in a very aggressive flag league. Played 3 playoff games with torn meniscus and strained ACL. Still not right 20 years later.

I bet he suits up and plays limited snaps until we get a lead.

Dudes a warrior snd will play while he feels needed.

So he's playing???

DET was the 5th best offense last year. And Goff was the 3rd best QB vs. the blitz in 2022 as well. Big reason for that is the fact that they have the 5th best OL in the league, and the 11th best rushing attack.


This isn't the same old Lions anymore. No, Goff isn't elite, but he doesn't have to be either, if that OL holds up again this year., and their defense's upgrades pan out.

I say set Kelce for precautionary reasons. Not having Kelce and Jones will actually be a silver lining/blessing in disguise specifically only for this game because it is the Lions who are a much improved team but...... it's the Lions(previous reputation) It will prevent a SB hangover and that 'previous Lions reputation' from setting psychologically in IMO. Because now everyone especially the backups including Pat will have to be xtra focused realizing they have a couple of their 'big guns' out of order. But it will create a huge opportunity for these backups to capitalize and be trusted and developed more for the future.

Lions will not be a pushover that is for sure.

Not having Kelce or Jones and a win only adds to Mahomes's Legend.

Cassel went 27-7 in less games. Not impressed

I think clay's projection is realistic. Probably see him week three. Injured my knee recently, feels like it's gonna be hurting the rest of my life. I'm 49, not fat but not an athlete. Kelce is a golden god. He's only an inch taller than me and outweighs me by 75 lbs and all of that is muscle. 2 weeks from the injury.

Pelisserio says they’re gonna work him out this morning and see

He's going to tell them he's fine. He's too crucial to our season to take a risk like that in week 1. We can beat the Lions without him. Reid needs to step in and be the bad guy and set him for this game.

Play the long game. The main thing still is the main thing...Win a SB.

Check their schedule, their top 5 offense isn't like our top 5

Sounds like he'll be put out there as a distraction to pull the middle of the field away from the target. A Reid special with injured players who want to play. He'll catch an easy TD tonight after broken coverage as per usual.

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:thumb:The injuries associated with last year's opener? Just getting a couple key pieces (1-O, 1-D) off the field.

Ed Werder saying what we've known since the injury occurred.

This isnt remotely some kid of informed hot take, we all know this.

Kelce can play tonight, will the Chiefs let him? Who knows (certainly not Clay).

Reid's history has always been if the player can go, you play them.

Reid's history is to be conservative with injuries.

Ed isn't giving a take. Someone told him that.

Ed’s in kc for the game so I would guess he knows something

No it isn't. The ONLY player he has ever been conservatives with was Mahomes and frankly he hasn't really been that conservative there.

He has stated many times if the player can go they go.

Reid will listen to the training staff. Mahomes missed 2 games after dislocating his kneecap.

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He almost always gives the player an extra week.

Like Toney last year.

You are literally making shit up at this point.

And McDuffie. Andy has always been cautious if not a must win game.

He was conservative with Thuney last year too.

No he isn't. Clay is an annoying child but he is correct on this.

One protects $500 million, the other one doesn’t.

The most likely thing seems to be be Kelce testing the knee in warmups, and if he feels good he'll be active but with a decreased workload.

If he plays I bet it's no more than 25 snaps.

That's what happened with Tyreek in that PIT game two years ago.

I am good with this as long as he is limited because KC is doing just fine without him.

If the game plays out where he is a highly needed weapon but he is limited because of the injury then he should just not suit up.

No need to play him week 1 unless he has no restrictions.

He could be used as a decoy. Bringing him into the game in a 4th down or a goal to go situation could be helpful even if he doesn't get the ball.

so still all speculation

Huh?

That's absolutely Reid's thing.

Practice for a full week and MAYBE we'll activate you. McDuffie last year was a perfect example.

Now I think there may be some distinction between an injury that is prone to aggravation (the hammy) and what may potentially just be pain management for Kelce.

But Reid's MO with guys coming back from injury has always been fairly cautious. Hell, he kept Chris Jones out of a playoff game.

If you miss a practice, you probably aren't playing. We'll see if that holds for Kelce.

MarceLLus

If he is limited in any way then he is not a decoy.

Missing "A" practice has never been a disqualifier to play. Missing most of the week practices yes.

And the thought process that it takes another week to get healthy means the player isn't ready to go. And as you stated risking further injury because a player isn't fully healthy isn't the same as sitting a player who isn't at risk of further injury.

Reid didn't hold Jones out, the training staff did. A calf injury is exactly the kind of thing you don't push. ( I couldn't remember why Jones was out and had to look it up)


If Kelce says he feels good to go in warm-ups, Reid will have hard time telling him no. Its not his style. The idea they are even waiting that long and letting him go through warmups is telling.

I say all this believing whether he thinks he can go or not he should sit tonight.

ROFL Dude I wouldn't go there if I were you specifically.

This is noted for when Kelce plays tonight by the way.

Sit em

Now you're drawing lines between Reid and the training staff, as though the latter is not a reflection of the philosophy established by the former.

And ignoring a dozen different examples to the contrary.

Reid almost always requires a full week of practice. Yes, there are instances (Mahomes being the obvious one) where he'll let a guy play, but to say that as a general rule he's not conservative with injuries is just silly.

If there's an injury that runs the risk of aggravation and the player wasn't able to put in a full week of practice, he RARELY plays them that week. His usual rule is to be a full participant by the Wednesday practice but again, even a limited designation on Tuesday makes it no better than a coin flip scenario that a guy's going to play unless it's some sort of maintenance day.

Reid very much slow-plays guys returning from injury.

Kelce may play tonight - no different than when Mahomes played on a clearly compromised ankle.

But to argue that he isn't conservative with injuries as a general rule just ignores the reality we've seen, especially over the last several years as the team has focused less on making the playoffs and more on doing damage when they get there.

He slow rolls guys back from injuries far more often than he doesn't.

Based on how Reid handles injuries in the past Kelce will 100% be out for this game, and will be Questionable next week. After that he should be fine.

Give me a good example outside of a hamstring injury.

Mahomes with the ankle had all off season to recover as long as he could handle the pain, and we all know he could handle the pain.

Kelce is playing in the season opener, and while they're being mum about his chance to play, I would imagine if there's ANY chance of aggravating/injuring it further, he will sit. JMHO from how previous injuries have been handled.

Why? You're going to sidestep them anyway.

Clyde came back from the IR, didn't get activated for the SB. "Well we had better options..."

Thuney misses an extra game with the ankle injury "Well he can't take any chances with Mahomes..."

Jones warms up for a playoff game but doesn't play "Well that was the training staff..."

Tyreek Hill hurts his shoulder, returns to practice on October 2nd, doesn't play that week; returns on October 13th - "But he went to the hospital..."

I'm not going to go through the injury reports and feed them to you. It's stupid. You know what you know and by god that's all you need to know. You keep getting examples and you just qualify them or simply make declaratory statements.