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Buehler445 09-12-2023 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17105615)
Literally who says this.
I think Romos Dumbass started it when he was actively rooting against Mahomes.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-12-2023 09:36 PM
Mr January….hahahaha

He’s played well in maybe two postseason games and was ass last postseason.

But he’s better than Burrow in the playoffs.

JustDíqLix 09-12-2023 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17105593)
He has one season of playoff greatness. And in that moment of greatness he only got 1 playoff win.

I don't remember what he did in 2020 nor do I ****ing care. If I don't remember it probably isn't anything special.

Before then he was a bag of dicks in that loss against the Texans.
You don’t accumulate 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in one postseason of greatness.

He’s great in the playoffs. Mr. January.

ToxSocks 09-12-2023 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17105610)
Josh Allen playoffs:
2021 (2 games) 48/62, 77.4%, 637 yds, 10.3 ypa, 9/0, 149.0 rating 1 win, 1 loss
All other (6 games) 149/247, 60.3%, 1697 yds, 6.9ypa, 8/4, 85.0 rating 3 wins, 3 losses

In 7 playoff games, Burrow has been below an 87 rating twice.
In 8 playoff games, Allen has been below an 87 rating 4 times (50%).

"Mr. January" lulz
I'm here for the Bills on Bengals crime. Tired of having to defend our title against you two.

Y'all need to duke it out for honorary 2nd place.

You two, fight. Get on now.

rfaulk34 09-12-2023 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105656)
You don’t accumulate 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in one postseason of greatness.

He’s great in the playoffs. Mr. January.
9

45% of his playoff TDs are in one playoff season (2 games).

9 of 20

rfaulk34 09-12-2023 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17105658)
I'm here for the Bills on Bengals crime. Tired of having to defend our title against you two.

Y'all need to duke it out for honorary 2nd place.

You two, fight. Get on now.
You've been awfully chippy today, with the violence. :thumb:

MahomesMagic 09-12-2023 10:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105589)
Are playoff games big moments?

Because if so… Allen’s nickname isn’t Mr. January for no reason.

Allen playoff stats all-time

64% passing, 20 TD, 4 INT
27ppg in playoffs

Burrow playoff stats all-time

67%, 10 TD, 4 INT
23ppg in playoffs

Allen comes to play in the playoffs big time. He has double Burrow’s playoff TD’s and the same INT. While scoring 4ppg more.

The problem is that his defense routinely fugs it up for him. In the Cinci game last year, it was o-line collapsing. That’s why Beane replaced 2 starters on the line this off-season.
Allen choked in 2019, 2020, and 2022.

So 2021 he didn't choke and that was because he drew Patriots who couldn't stop the same Air Raid play Daboll called over and over and the Chiefs lost Badger and had zero NFL safeties on the field and went vanilla.

Allen chokes in the playoffs.

FloridaMan88 09-12-2023 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105656)
You don’t accumulate 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in one postseason of greatness.

He’s great in the playoffs. Mr. January.
Zero Super Bowl appearances.

Zero Super Bowl appearances.

Zero Super Bowl appearances.

FlaChief58 09-13-2023 04:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105656)
You don’t accumulate 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in one postseason of greatness.

He’s great in the playoffs. Mr. January.
I must have missed all those superbowls "mr January" led his team to.

Bearcat 09-13-2023 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17105748)
I must have missed all those superbowls "mr January" led his team to.
Thr SB is in February. :D

Mister Divisional has a ring to it, even if they've only won one.

Rainbarrel 09-13-2023 05:23 AM
Allen isn't washed, but he appears to be self sudsing

RedinTexas 09-13-2023 05:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17105618)
Josh Allen… with his .500 career playoff record… is apparently “Mr. January” because he never gets to play in February.
February is for closers.

mr. tegu 09-13-2023 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17105610)
Josh Allen playoffs:
2021 (2 games) 48/62, 77.4%, 637 yds, 10.3 ypa, 9/0, 149.0 rating 1 win, 1 loss
All other (6 games) 149/247, 60.3%, 1697 yds, 6.9ypa, 8/4, 85.0 rating 3 wins, 3 losses

In 7 playoff games, Burrow has been below an 87 rating twice.
In 8 playoff games, Allen has been below an 87 rating 4 times (50%).

"Mr. January" lulz

To this point Burrow is a regular season stat padding QB. Every post season his numbers are substantially worst compared to his regular season numbers.

wazu 09-13-2023 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17105772)
To this point Burrow is a regular season stat padding QB. Every post season his numbers are substantially worst compared to his regular season numbers.
Which makes sense. Usually tougher competition and worse weather. He has a 5-2 postseason record so seems to usually play well enough.

mr. tegu 09-13-2023 06:27 AM
The Bills take the AFC this seasom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17105774)
Which makes sense. Usually tougher competition and worse weather. He has a 5-2 postseason record so seems to usually play well enough.

23 ppg with a 5-2 record. Zero fourth quarter TD drives in the post season. Only 9 TDs in 7 games. So what seems most likely? He’s played well enough or just been incredibly lucky?

Sassy Squatch 09-13-2023 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17105750)
Thr SB is in February. :D

Mister Divisional has a ring to it, even if they've only won one.
Holy ****knuckles. For some reason I've had it in my head that Allen and the Bills have been to two AFC Championship games. But they've only been to one. And it was when we absolutely dominated them. LOLOLOLOLOL LOLOL

notorious 09-13-2023 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17105781)
23 ppg with a 5-2 record. Zero fourth quarter TD drives in the post season. Only 9 TDs in 7 games. So what seems most likely? He’s played well enough or just been incredibly lucky?
Tom Brady had similar support in the post season.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-13-2023 07:07 AM
Newton actually had an MVP and Superbowl berth so I may have over sold Josh in the comparison? Either way he continues to take hits like Monday for no reason and his career is toast. Imagine using him playing dumb and getting a concussion from it and trying to use it as an excuse for his poor play....the ****?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-13-2023 07:08 AM
I would also say odds are he played with a concussion which means he's at greater risk to get ANOTHER one. He may even go full Tua this year....wow

Pasta Little Brioni 09-13-2023 07:10 AM
Remember daquix when I told you that UCL would end your season and he was a pick machine after I told you that and put up 10 in the playoffs?

Bearcat 09-13-2023 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17105797)
Holy ****knuckles. For some reason I've had it in my head that Allen and the Bills have been to two AFC Championship games. But they've only been to one. And it was when we absolutely dominated them. LOLOLOLOLOL LOLOL
Yeah, it's kind of nuts when you look back on it.

Lost to the Texans in what had to be one of the worst playoff games ever.

Barely beat the Colts in another bad game (more entertaining, at least) that no one wanted to win.

Beat the Ravens... currently their crowning achievement?

Ran up the score on a bad Patriots team.

Fortunate to beat the Dolphins, playing a 3rd string QB in one of the worst coached, unprepared games I've seen (from the Dolphins).

Of course, Allen played well in :13.

....that's it. For all the hype and bullshit, their playoff resume could be accomplished by Alex Smith.

Hell, it's the ultimate pre-Mahomes playoff experience. Beat the shitty playoff teams and maybe throw in a surprise but heartbreakingly close defeat.

The bar is set low in Buffalo.

RedinTexas 09-13-2023 07:15 AM
Running backs have really short careers. Why would a team that believes they have a superstar QB want him running the ball? I think about the best QBs ever to play the game and are there any of them that had any kind of reputation for running the ball, much less for taking lots of hits downfield? Allen might have it in him to be a great QB for many years, but every time he takes a hit he is making himself worse in the long run. It's funny, but everyone loved Allen's size and his ability to run the ball. Those two things now appear to be severely limiting his potential to be a great QB.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-13-2023 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17105819)
Running backs have really short careers. Why would a team that believes they have a superstar QB want him running the ball? I think about the best QBs ever to play the game and are there any of them that had any kind of reputation for running the ball, much less for taking lots of hits downfield? Allen might have it in him to be a great QB for many years, but every time he takes a hit he is making himself worse in the long run. It's funny, but everyone loved Allen's size and his ability to run the ball. Those two things now appear to be severely limiting his potential to be a great QB.
The careers/windows are much shorter and the declines happen QUICKLY. Careers of QBs that take hits like Allen are very short. Doesn't matter how "big" or "tough" you are. The defense is bigger and tougher.

Gravedigger 09-13-2023 07:23 AM
Until Josh Allen wins an OT game, I'm not going to believe he's capable of winning an OT game. 0-5 and still alive!

Sassy Squatch 09-13-2023 07:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17105817)
Yeah, it's kind of nuts when you look back on it.

Lost to the Texans in what had to be one of the worst playoff games ever.

Barely beat the Colts in another bad game (more entertaining, at least) that no one wanted to win.

Beat the Ravens... currently their crowning achievement?

Ran up the score on a bad Patriots team.

Fortunate to beat the Dolphins, playing a 3rd string QB in one of the worst coached, unprepared games I've seen (from the Dolphins).

Of course, Allen played well in :13.

....that's it. For all the hype and bullshit, their playoff resume could be accomplished by Alex Smith.

Hell, it's the ultimate pre-Mahomes playoff experience. Beat the shitty playoff teams and maybe throw in a surprise but heartbreakingly close defeat.

The bar is set low in Buffalo.
Jesus Christ. I'd say for Bills fans it was probably cathartic to destroy the Patriots like that but for having Allen as long as they have a 4-4 record with no wins against an actual contender is mind blowing.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-13-2023 07:33 AM
Going to evaluate the Bills a bit closer! Daquix I'll be posting alot this season since I'm bored of Denver already!

Sassy Squatch 09-13-2023 07:34 AM
Just for reference, Mahomes is 11-3 and Burrow is 5-2. LMAO "Mr January" LOLOLOLOLOL

Hammock Parties 09-13-2023 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 17105827)
Until Josh Allen wins an OT game, I'm not going to believe he's capable of winning an OT game. 0-5 and still alive!
On that last throw you could see him being overly cautious trying to avoid a pick.

It's going to take a stretch of good games for him get back to early 2022 form.

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17105772)
To this point Burrow is a regular season stat padding QB. Every post season his numbers are substantially worst compared to his regular season numbers.
He's consistently good, doesn't shit the bed and hasn't had to have one of those shootout games because the entire team has played well in the playoffs the last 2 years. He's certainly capable though.

A 93.8 rating in the p/o is not substantially worse than a career 100 rating. And that 93.8 includes the AFCCG last year, his worst game in the playoffs.

Bearcat 09-13-2023 07:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17105837)
Jesus Christ. I'd say for Bills fans it was probably cathartic to destroy the Patriots like that but for having Allen as long as they have a 4-4 record with no wins against an actual contender is mind blowing.
Change my mind. :shrug:


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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17067762)
Yeah, imagine if a Titans fan showed up here or on a Bengals forum talking about taking the AFC this season and how successful they've been against SB contenders (I mean, we have Jeff Fisher, but he's obviously satire).

That's really what we're talking about here.

The Bills can have the better roster, QB, paper championships, September and October trophies... but it's easy to see here who the real contenders have been in the AFC.

Here are the (at most) most recent 3 year playoff stretches...
The big differences with the comparison is the Bengals have accomplished more in just 2 playoff seasons than the Bills have in 3, and even if it was the past 4 seasons for the Titans and Bills (not skipping the Titans' non-playoff year), you're just adding in that awful, awful playoff loss for the Bills 4 years ago, which then puts them at 4-4.

7-2, 1 SB win, 2 SB appearances, 2 AFCCG wins, 3 AFCCG appearances, 3-1 against the other 3.

5-2, 1 SB appearance, 1 AFCCG win, 2 AFCCG appearances, 3-1 against the other 3

4-3, 1 AFCCG appearance, 0-3 against the other 3

2-3, 1 AFCCG appearance, 0-2 against the other 3


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rfaulk34 09-13-2023 07:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17105781)
23 ppg with a 5-2 record. Zero fourth quarter TD drives in the post season. Only 9 TDs in 7 games. So what seems most likely? He’s played well enough or just been incredibly lucky?
Yes. He's just been incredibly lucky in 7 playoff games.

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tredadda 09-13-2023 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17105615)
Literally who says this.
Romo only. The irony is after that comment, Buffalo has not won a playoff game.

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17105817)
Yeah, it's kind of nuts when you look back on it.

Lost to the Texans in what had to be one of the worst playoff games ever.

Barely beat the Colts in another bad game (more entertaining, at least) that no one wanted to win.

Beat the Ravens... currently their crowning achievement?

Ran up the score on a bad Patriots team.

Fortunate to beat the Dolphins, playing a 3rd string QB in one of the worst coached, unprepared games I've seen (from the Dolphins).

Of course, Allen played well in :13.

....that's it. For all the hype and bullshit, their playoff resume could be accomplished by Alex Smith.

Hell, it's the ultimate pre-Mahomes playoff experience. Beat the shitty playoff teams and maybe throw in a surprise but heartbreakingly close defeat.

The bar is set low in Buffalo.
If you look at the Ravens playoff record, that's nothing to crow about.

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Hammock Parties 09-13-2023 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17105866)
Yes. He's just been incredibly lucky in 7 playoff games.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...dKnK/giphy.gif
This is the luckiest damn thing you'll ever see in a playoff game.

Nothing like this has ever happened to Mahomes.

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RealSNR 09-13-2023 07:58 AM
Can we keep this thread to just shitting on Allen?

tredadda 09-13-2023 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17105678)
Allen choked in 2019, 2020, and 2022.

So 2021 he didn't choke and that was because he drew Patriots who couldn't stop the same Air Raid play Daboll called over and over and the Chiefs lost Badger and had zero NFL safeties on the field and went vanilla.

Allen chokes in the playoffs.
Rewatch that playoff game. Fans are so enamored with the final minutes of the game, but KC was dominating for a huge part of the game. They love hyping how awesome Allen was, and to be fair he had moments, but one of his TDs for sure was a product of hitting a wide open Davis because our DB fell down. Great route by Davis, but nothing spectacular at all with that throw. It's a throw that any QB, and especially a starting QB in the NFL should make.

Hammock Parties 09-13-2023 08:02 AM
Here's another complete shot with luck moment. Again, nothing like this has ever happened to Mahomes in a playoff game.

Burrow shit the bed in this game and his defense bailed him out.

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RaidersOftheCellar 09-13-2023 08:03 AM
Imagine calling someone who's underachieved in the playoffs "Mr January." They're actually insulting their own QB by showing they don't expect more.

Bearcat 09-13-2023 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17105880)
Can we keep this thread to just shitting on Allen?
Come back tonight, I'll hopefully be releasing the next Ralph Allen.

mr. tegu 09-13-2023 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17105866)
Yes. He's just been incredibly lucky in 7 playoff games.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...dKnK/giphy.gif

The Bengals won a playoff game by 3 points when their final 5 drives produced 61 yards combined, 3 punts, and an interception. That’s lucky, especially because they only got their 3 points after Tannehill threw an INT with 20 seconds left in the game setting up the field goal.

tredadda 09-13-2023 08:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17105797)
Holy ****knuckles. For some reason I've had it in my head that Allen and the Bills have been to two AFC Championship games. But they've only been to one. And it was when we absolutely dominated them. LOLOLOLOLOL LOLOL
They have been trending backwards. KC blew them out in the AFCCG, then beat them in the legendary 13 seconds game which was in the divisional round, and then last year got skull drug by the Bengals in the divisional round.

That roster is aging, their GM doesn't draft well. Their #1 pick from last season (the one they settled on because Veach jumped them to steal McDuffie) was a healthy scratch on Monday. Allen has regressed since losing Dabol, and if reports are to be believed, he is unwilling to put in the effort to improve.

Rainbarrel 09-13-2023 08:14 AM
Josh Allen is a South Park character come to life. Right down to the triangle grin

Munson 09-13-2023 08:20 AM
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FlaChief58 09-13-2023 08:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17105905)
Josh Allen is a South Park character come to life. Right down to the triangle grin
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KCUnited 09-13-2023 08:29 AM
Bills fan are really taking comfort in the narrative that Allen doesn't choke its just the result of continuous head trauma, when Ralph Allen is the one seeking out the contact?

FloridaMan88 09-13-2023 08:33 AM
DiqLicker still trying to pay off the debt he incurred by shelling out $$$ on tickets/travel to Atlanta for what he presumed was a preordained AFC Championship Game appearance for the Bills vs the Chiefs... only to have Josh Allen choke away those dreams vs. Cincy in the Divisional Round.

ROFL

JustDíqLix 09-13-2023 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17105663)
9

45% of his playoff TDs are in one playoff season (2 games).

9 of 20
It’s odd that you want to remove entire games that don’t fit your narrative.

But EVEN IF you did remove them, Allen STILL has more TD’s (11) than Burrow (10) and that would be with Allen playing one less game (since we took away two).

And that ignores the fact that Allen’s PPG in the playoffs is higher.

There is simply no argument for Burrow being better than Allen in the playoffs. Burrow is average in the playoffs. Allen is 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in the playoffs.

Burrow has 1 more win and I think it’s pretty clear to see why…

Josh Allen’s defense in the playoffs
26 ppg given up

Joe Burrow’s defense in the playoffs:
19 ppg given up

Allen’s defense (which, by the way, he doesn’t play on) gives up an average of a Touchdown + extra point more, per playoff game, than Burrows.

If Allen had Burrow’s playoff defense, he may have a 7-1 playoff record. And the Bengals would definitely have a lombardi trophy.

FloridaMan88 09-13-2023 09:09 AM
It was the Buffalo defense's fault that their offense only scored 10 points vs. Cincy in the playoffs last year?

And almost half of Josh Allen's career playoff TD passes have come in two games... the Faketriots Wildcard game when they destroyed Belicheck's hapless team, and the Chiefs game when they lost.

Take away those two games, and Josh Allen's playoff statistics are very average.

ptlyon 09-13-2023 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17105929)
DiqLicker still trying to pay off the debt he incurred by shelling out $$$ on tickets/travel to Atlanta for what he presumed was a preordained AFC Championship Game appearance for the Bills vs the Chiefs... only to have Josh Allen choke away those dreams vs. Cincy in the Divisional Round.

ROFL
Chime away? They were getting their asses handed to them before the Hamiln injury. Then quit.

JustDíqLix 09-13-2023 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17105981)

Take away those two games, and Josh Allen's playoff statistics are very average.
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.

Since you want to take away games, let’s look at what would happen if you took away Mahomes best 2 playoff games at the same point in his career, that Allen is at right now (8 playoff games).

With his best two games removed Mahomes playoff stats at that point would be 9 TD and 4 INT. Allen’s playoff stats with his best two games removed is 11 TD and 4 INT.

Hmm…

JustDíqLix 09-13-2023 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17105991)
Chime away? They were getting their asses handed to them before the Hamiln injury. Then quit.
It was 7 to 3 in the first quarter :thumb:

FloridaMan88 09-13-2023 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105993)
It was 7 to 3 in the first quarter :thumb:
Buffalo was losing and then your team quit.

FloridaMan88 09-13-2023 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105992)
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.
And Buffalo choked in the playoffs last year because of Josh Allen's failure.

68.0 QB rating, 0 TD's, 1 INT's, and leading an offense that only scored 10 points vs. Cincy... that's an epic failure by Buffalo's OFFENSE.

FlaChief58 09-13-2023 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105993)
It was 7 to 3 in the first quarter :thumb:
They were well on their way to getting blown out

ptlyon 09-13-2023 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105993)
It was 7 to 3 in the first quarter :thumb:
Score be what it may, cinn was going up and down the field on your ass. It was becoming a blowout. And you know it.

Rainbarrel 09-13-2023 09:25 AM
Allen needs to pull off a Deshaun Watson type exit. So he can cash in again with another team in two years

tredadda 09-13-2023 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105992)
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.

Since you want to take away games, let’s look at what would happen if you took away Mahomes best 2 playoff games at the same point in his career, that Allen is at right now (8 playoff games).

With his best two games removed Mahomes playoff stats at that point would be 9 TD and 4 INT. Allen’s playoff stats with his best two games removed is 11 TD and 4 INT.

Hmm…
Of the three QBs only one went into the playoffs with the number 1 defense in the league.

FloridaMan88 09-13-2023 09:29 AM
Also the only time Josh Allen has advanced to play in the AFC Championship Game was because of Buffalo's defense carrying him.

They beat Baltimore 17-3 in the Divisional Round in 2021 when they only scored one offensive TD... the other TD was scored on a pick 6.

Buffalo was also held to 220 yards of total offense that game.

Josh Allen being carried by Buffalo's defense to his only AFC Championship Game appearance... a reality that DiqLicker conveniently wants to forget. LMAO

Bearcat 09-13-2023 09:31 AM
If you weren't convinced by the first 3 years of cherry picked, misunderstood, grade school analysis of statistics, tune into year 4 of Diqlix Does the Numbers, featuring Ralph Allen!

Airing now in select Bills threads on ChiefsPlanet.

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rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17105877)
This is the luckiest damn thing you'll ever see in a playoff game.

Nothing like this has ever happened to Mahomes.

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One guy holding the QB up. A second guy purposefully knocking the ball out. A third guy taking it back for a TD with an entourage.

Luck doesn't work that way.

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17105887)
Here's another complete shot with luck moment. Again, nothing like this has ever happened to Mahomes in a playoff game.

Burrow shit the bed in this game and his defense bailed him out.

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Lrn2Football, moron.

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17105894)
The Bengals won a playoff game
That's all that needs to be said.

TwistedChief 09-13-2023 09:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106019)
One guy holding the QB up. A second guy purposefully knocking the ball out. A third guy taking it back for a TD with an entourage.

Luck doesn't work that way.
I mean, you're lucky they had a backup QB playing. And you're lucky that backup QB lacks depth perception and made one of the worst turnovers in playoff history.

But your guys did a good job maximizing the value of their luck.

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105950)
It’s odd that you want to remove entire games that don’t fit your narrative.

But EVEN IF you did remove them, Allen STILL has more TD’s (11) than Burrow (10) and that would be with Allen playing one less game (since we took away two).

And that ignores the fact that Allen’s PPG in the playoffs is higher.

There is simply no argument for Burrow being better than Allen in the playoffs. Burrow is average in the playoffs. Allen is 20 TD, 4 INT and 27ppg in the playoffs.

Burrow has 1 more win and I think it’s pretty clear to see why…

Josh Allen’s defense in the playoffs
26 ppg given up

Joe Burrow’s defense in the playoffs:
19 ppg given up

Allen’s defense (which, by the way, he doesn’t play on) gives up an average of a Touchdown + extra point more, per playoff game, than Burrows.

If Allen had Burrow’s playoff defense, he may have a 7-1 playoff record. And the Bengals would definitely have a lombardi trophy.
1. I didn't remove anything to fit a narrative. I directly answered your statement with facts.
2. I posted the complete playoff stats for Allen.
3. PPG, like wins, is a team stat.
4. They played H2H last year, in your place.
5. You got spanked.

RunKC 09-13-2023 09:39 AM
Bills downfall will be Josh Allen and his turnovers. Bengals downfall will be their terrible OL.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Jags are better than both of those teams this year.

New World Order 09-13-2023 09:39 AM
DiqLix vs Rfaulk...Battle of the Super Bowl losers.

This is what we've been waiting for

DrunkBassGuitar 09-13-2023 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106019)
One guy holding the QB up. A second guy purposefully knocking the ball out. A third guy taking it back for a TD with an entourage.

Luck doesn't work that way.
i mean of course there's luck involved in getting to an afccg but yeah holding the ball like it's Simba like that it would be very fortunate if something bad didn't happen to the ravens there

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17106024)
I mean, you're lucky they had a backup QB playing. And you're lucky that backup QB lacks depth perception and made one of the worst turnovers in playoff history.

But your guys did a good job maximizing the value of their luck.
I don't disagree with any of that and i think you'd agree that there are points in almost every football game where "luck" can be introduced.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-13-2023 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106025)
1. I didn't remove anything to fit a narrative. I directly answered your statement with facts.
2. I posted the complete playoff stats for Allen.
3. PPG, like wins, is a team stat.
4. They played H2H last year, in your place.
5. You got spanked.
Get his ass


Diqlix you gonna take this shit? he's clowning you bro

rfaulk34 09-13-2023 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17106028)
DiqLix vs Rfaulk...Battle of the Super Bowl losers.

This is what we've been waiting for
https://media.tenor.com/P-7rbtEMTaYA...-scotthall.gif

I'm ready.

TwistedChief 09-13-2023 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106030)
I don't disagree with any of that and i think you'd agree that there are points in almost every football game where "luck" can be introduced.
Champions* make their own luck. -Vincent Lombardi

*Mahomes.

TwistedChief 09-13-2023 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17106028)
DiqLix vs Rfaulk...Battle of the Super Bowl losers.

This is what we've been waiting for
rfaulk is one of the good ones. The dude doesn't really troll and was here taking his licks after we beat them in the AFCCG last year.

He's a douchey Bengals fan, but he's OUR resident douchey Bengals fan.

Diqlix on the other hand is like a grown up Mahomo who became a Bills fan. I picture him in Josh Allen pajamas everytime I read his posts.

mr. tegu 09-13-2023 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106019)
One guy holding the QB up. A second guy purposefully knocking the ball out. A third guy taking it back for a TD with an entourage.

Luck doesn't work that way.

Where is Burrow on that play? Oh Burrow wasn’t playing defense? No one is arguing about the team, it’s about Burrow’s luck. If his defense isn’t bailing him out he is rightfully being viewed as a choker.

Bearcat 09-13-2023 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17106030)
I don't disagree with any of that and i think you'd agree that there are points in almost every football game where "luck" can be introduced.
It's largely dismissed as an excuse as we tend to over-value results as "well they won, they must be the better team!", but plays a larger part in winning than many people care for.

Not that it applies to say the Bills only making it past the divisional round once, as that's a pretty decent sample size by now.

RedinTexas 09-13-2023 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105992)
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.

Since you want to take away games, let’s look at what would happen if you took away Mahomes best 2 playoff games at the same point in his career, that Allen is at right now (8 playoff games).

With his best two games removed Mahomes playoff stats at that point would be 9 TD and 4 INT. Allen’s playoff stats with his best two games removed is 11 TD and 4 INT.

Hmm…
Why are you removing Mahomes' 2 best games other than that was done in looking at Allen's stats? It was explained that in Allen's case his 2 best games are seen by some as outliers. Are you claiming that Mahomes' 2 best games are outliers? If not, then please explain.

Bearcat 09-13-2023 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17106064)
rfaulk is one of the good ones. The dude doesn't really troll and was here taking his licks after we beat them in the AFCCG last year.

He's a douchey Bengals fan, but he's OUR resident douchey Bengals fan.

Diqlix on the other hand is like a grown up Mahomo who became a Bills fan. I picture him in Josh Allen pajamas everytime I read his posts.
https://i.imgur.com/E7LbDjf.jpg

tredadda 09-13-2023 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105992)
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.

Since you want to take away games, let’s look at what would happen if you took away Mahomes best 2 playoff games at the same point in his career, that Allen is at right now (8 playoff games).

With his best two games removed Mahomes playoff stats at that point would be 9 TD and 4 INT. Allen’s playoff stats with his best two games removed is 11 TD and 4 INT.

Hmm…
Not sure this is a hill you want to die on.

TwistedChief 09-13-2023 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17106092)
Why are you removing Mahomes' 2 best games other than that was done in looking at Allen's stats? It was explained that in Allen's case his 2 best games are seen by some as outliers. Are you claiming that Mahomes' 2 best games are outliers? If not, then please explain.
The sample size for both QBs is small. We shouldn't be removing any games from either in judging them.

Allen's best game was obviously against the Patriots in 2021. He had a *perfect* game against a Belichick defense in weather in January. He gets all the props in the world for that performance.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-13-2023 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 17105992)
Take away those 2 playoff games and Allen’s playoff numbers are STILL higher than Burrows. And in less games!

Burrow wins in the playoff by a great defense.

Since you want to take away games, let’s look at what would happen if you took away Mahomes best 2 playoff games at the same point in his career, that Allen is at right now (8 playoff games).

With his best two games removed Mahomes playoff stats at that point would be 9 TD and 4 INT. Allen’s playoff stats with his best two games removed is 11 TD and 4 INT.

Hmm…

It's a joke to compare the postseason performances of Mahomes and Allen. Outside of the 2nd half vs the Bengals in the AFCC, Mahomes has consistently killed it in the postseason. Allen's had two good games (one in a losing effort) and the rest are mediocre if not bad.

And quit crying about misfortune. Even in the 13 second game, Allen got lucky numerous times. Two missed chip shot kicks, DB fell down and left a receiver wide open on a desperation 4th and 13 play, etc. He was lucky to even be in the game at the end.

Rainbarrel 09-13-2023 10:22 AM
Hamlin must be hurt again


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