Well, let's just say that's what it looks like right now. At least that's the brush he's been painted with so far. We'll know a lot more in say a month.

But yeah, if the guy turns out to be a real headcase, all Pat would have to say is one word and he's done, obviously.

Side note: Turns out Tyreek Hill was a bit more of a "headcase" than we realized after he left.

Reid and the Chiefs have a way about keeping the cap on these things.

Exactly.

Not worried at all about his attitude. You know Juju had a reputation for being a selfish player when he wanted out of Pittsburgh. He's just fine now.

You mean the WR who was involved in a huge off-season issue with his child , that caused us to panick pick Mecole because we were likely to move on from him?

Sweet. We got a second year version of Percy Harvin for a ham sandwich. Total swing for the fences move I love seeing.

Yep. We will know soon enough if they can tone him down some by reading his twitter feed in the next few weeks.

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Toney also runs sick routes and can get open fast.

That's kind of apples and oranges. Hill had one very bad incident, or was convinced to plead guilty to it, and was otherwise relatively fine.

Toney OTOH seems to at the very least idolize some of the not so great aspects of a rapper lifestyle. Carrying a loaded AK 15 around for "protection", conducting himself like a blood on the interwebz, and his quite frankly dogshit opinion on the Ruggs tragedy are a bit concerning. Not to mention the struggles he had on the field with the Giants. Missing practices, not putting in enough effort to learn, constant injuries, etc.

There is incredible upside here, but there's also a slew of reasons the Giants gave up on it just a year and a half into his career. Just hope Reid can tone him back to the point he's productive for us.

Any negativity gets boo's!

Lets hope for the best here. Because the talent is just sick.

He grew up in a hood in Mobile.

Guys from hoods run by the Bloods hate Crips and replace all their C's with K's.

You must've failed Gangsta Life 101 in high school.

Like Toney himself said in his otherwise asinine Tweet about Ruggs - he's young. I'm sure he still has a TON to learn about being a solid player and teammate.

We have Andy and Pat. The rest will sort itself out.

I'm not saying he won't help at all this year, but where are his snaps coming from? Maybe he takes Watson's snaps? You're certainly not going to see him come in and take any of JuJu's, MVS's or Hardman's. I can't see that happening. Andy will get him involved slowly.

What I can see is Hardman and JuJu are both free agents next year and the chances of keeping both is probably literally 0%. His role next year is what this trade was really made for, and it's fantastic long term. You just got a top 20 gamebreaker with 3 years of team control after this season for basically a 4th and a 7th. That's terrific value.

Unfortunately that isn't part of the curriculum in Bumble****, MO.

I hope he's good obviously. I want to see a WR who can run routes. We don't need Jet Sweep Jr.

Chiefs playbook for him this season:
1)Line up on the outside left, run 40 yards straight for the goal line, catch Patrick's pass, run for the endzone.
2)Line up on the outside right, run 39 yards straight for the goal line, catch Patrick's pass, run for the endzone.

At least you don't have to dodge bullets from drive-bys

He'll mostly be a returner and as time goes the Chiefs will develop packages for him.

I imagine they'll use him similar to Hardman, or in conjunction with Hardman for some potentially big time misdirections etc. They'll likely get him involved in the screen game, sweeps etc and probably a few dope ass red zone plays.

There is no doubt they traded for him because of his talent but also because of the culture here. With Andy, Bienemy, Nagy, and a good group of veterans to take him under their wings and get him straightened out hopefully.

But it is going to be up to Toney to be accepting of that and put in the work

Elite level speed and his change of direction is second to none in this league…love this trade.

We’ll recoup the compensatory pick so basically giving up a 6th for him.

Also under contract for the next 3 years at cheap numbers…

Is there some risk? Sure…but if he hits, my God.

Lol Tyreek has never been accused of not trying to learn his playbook, skipping practices meetings, throwing his team under the bus, or ever been ejected from a game for fighting among other things. Let's call a spade a spade here. Toney is closer to AB than he is to Tyreek.

He's Hardman's replacement (should he not act like a clown), so give him some of those. I'm sure Veach and Andy talked this over before pulling the trigger.

Of course. But there's very little downside if he doesn't. We lose one of our no man's land comp picks that isn't even a 3rd rounder but more like 3.5.

The upside so far outweighs any potential downside that it's almost not worth talking about. If he comes in and continues the way he has, he'll be gone.

But if he comes in and balls out, they got a guy on the cheap (dirt cheap) that could be a big weapon both this year and in the foreseeable future.

lol

Luckily he's not as far gone as AB.

He's still young and winning organizations and coaches with track records of success often carry more weight than perennial losers.

So hopefully he actually listens to Reid and Mahomes instead of blowing them off like he did the Giants staff.

Bet he's excited he gets to wear red instead of blue now at work.

Totally agree. I am placing my faith in Andy in straightening him out, heck even Joe Judge said he was a good kid.

I'm so excited. Can't believe we got this guy.

You gotta take chances on guys who may or may not be thugs off the field. I think it’s a good move, otherwise Mecca wouldn’t have said so.

It wasn't offered in rural Kansas in the 80's

Don't know much about the guy, but sounds like he could have tremendous upside if he can conduct himself as a professional.

It's a much prettier color IMO

Never heard of her

I wonder what the conditions are on that 3rd and if they are related to the remainder of this year with the pick coming from the 2023 draft if they are related to next season with the pick coming in 2024? Any clues?

If it's this coming draft it could be the comp 3rd conditional up to our regular 3rd... or a 3rd up to a 2nd etc. Curioussssssss.

Go Kansas Kity Khiefs!!! The KKK...oh.

No conditions.

It appears that the initial reports that it was a conditional 3rd were wrong. It's actually one of the comp picks we got for Poles. So it's a pick after the unofficial end of round 3.

Yeah, I think I'll take cheap and highly talented WRs while Mahomes is in his prime for 3rd round picks. No brainer even given the baggage.

It's the Bhiefs.

It was reported wrong. It’s just the comp 3rd pick.

That's what I had read so it's why I made the statement a page or two back about it being a 1st rnd Wr for losing poles and a 6th... but then I thought about the tweet and thought maybe I was mistaken.

5 will get you 10 that the tweet meant 'compensatory' and not 'conditional'.

I.E. the Poles pick.

He was just saving his talents for a team that had colors more aligned with his affiliation.

Doesn’t like to practice or learn the playbook. Calls out his teammates on social media. Kid needs a very serious attitude check. He has plenty of red flags. I guess an upside is that if he doesn’t get his shit together we can just overpay hardman next year. But as others have pointed out the upside is pretty huge for a role that can certainly help.

Oh I agree, like I said I feel this move was made for next year and beyond, but I can't see Hardman being too happy if you start giving his snaps away to a newcomer in his contract year. Mecole strikes me as the type who wouldn't just take that sitting down.

There's a legit chance we could lose both JuJu and Hardman next year. I can't see the Chiefs overpaying for either with the way the market has been. If JuJu puts up 1,200+ yards and Mecole keeps making the flashy plays he has been, they are both getting huge deals. That's why Veach and Andy did this. You might look at Toney, MVS and Skyy Moore as your top 3 next year. Will be very interesting to see what happens.

Guess that was our big splash move for receiver. Yay

wbf! belief!!!,

They're not done I bet. Maybe at WR but there's some defensive help still to be had.

Literally

from NJ advance media,” In college, Toney averaged 12.6 yards on 11 punt returns in 2020, also scoring on a 50-yard return against Kentucky. ”. At least he’s had more experience than Sky with returning punts in college.

Imagine:

Beckham (healthy)
JJSS
MVS
Toney
Hardman
Moore

Then add Ross to the mix next year...

Man I loved the idea of the Chiefs getting Toney during that draft but always knew it was a pipe dream.

There’s also the kid with the broken foot and neck!

Best-case scenario, IMO, is Smith-Schuster decides he likes it in KC and prioritizes that over maximizing every dollar he can. He stays for the pay raise and commitment he has earned (something that falls in the $15-18M range). Meanwhile, Hardman signs a deal big enough to net a compensatory 3rd rounder (which would be a huge deal).

High ceiling low cost trade. The biggest downside is if other guys get mad he's taking away touches and if he continues not to study and causes a pick or two.

Still need to protect Mahomes. Doesn't matter who they line up if the line isn't playing well.

Part of protecting Mahomes and helping the line is getting the ball out quickly. Short passes with a lot of YAC potential, which of course is an area where Toney excels.

Though if his route running is truly questionable, then that becomes a recipe for disaster. Very interested to see what the kid looks like.

seems weird to me to give up a 3rd. We seem pretty full at WR tbh, but we can trust Veach enough at this point

It wasn't "our" 3rd though, it was a compensatory pick we got when Poles went to Chicago. It's essentially a 4th rounder.

Had to give them something of value. They turned down a Billay BJ behind the George Brett statue.

Flag is upside down dickhead.

It's compensatory so it's more like an early 4th as it relates to draftable players.

And we're definitely not full at WR beyond this season.

Check out his route running what he does to Diggs is nasty!
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Same. I remember arguing with the draft analytics kids before that draft on him.

Ok, so he has size, speed, production, and skills.

But they hated him because their formula kills a player if he doesn't break out early in college at a young age.

Just going to post this here so people can see it, since it is already buried 7 pages deep...

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Eh, at the very least I don’t see why he can’t do what mecole did on Sunday but better. Tyreek was that dude last year. Of course he had a complete route tree but he was used a ton last year catching quick passes then breaking ankles on YAC. I thought Albert Wilson brought a similar dynamic although way less athletic.

Now… I though skyy Moore could be this dude because he’s really shifty with the ball. But the chiefs have plans for him to do much more than that.

He knows how to create separation in routes better than Mecole does. But different skillset, Mecole is an elite athlete with top end speed, Toney is quick twitch and his short area quickness is some of the best I've ever seen.

Who gets cut?

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Nobody right now. Clark is suspended until after the Jags game.

Drafted #20 in the 2021. 4.3 40 yard at the combine. He’s 23.

If he works out here in our culture, stays healthy, which he has problems with, the Chiefs have him signed through 2025. But, he’s a flop, they are only out $1.9 million total.

We give up the additional 3rd round draft pick we got from the NFL for our front office guy going to Chicago and a 6th round pick.

High ceiling/Low risk move by Veach

Someone already said Clarke is on suspension. No need to cut anyone right now.

I guess that's true. Well maybe it will work out. The Giants are surprisingly good this year and he hasn't done anything so what's up with that? I honestly am asking because I don't know

Surely Ronald Jones?

He's only played in two games this season due to injury, according to ESPN.

He fell out of favor with the coaching staff because of a slew of minor injuries. He definitely has attitude problems but how much of that started with Joe Judge and the stupid Patriot Way bullshit, who knows.

I think he'll be just fine here as far as his attitude goes. He just has to stay healthier.

He's been injured a lot, but also seemed very much like a malcontent who didn't get along well with the Daboll regime. There's lots of smoke around his character right now. But man, he's very talented. If Reid can work his magic it could be very good.

He's had some injury issues and he and Daboll didn't seem fond of each other.

Daboll is a Patriot way pud also..