Jalen Ramsey was the only good defensive player traded. All of these other guys are JAG’s.

We already got guys like them. None of those guys are any better than Breeland or Claiborne.

And Veach has a iffy record when it comes to drafting defensive players as well. I think it would be ridiculous if he doesn't at least try and get a line-baker tbh. And I still think William Jackson would be a very good addition to this secondary.

Minkah would have helped

Slay isn’t better than Breeland or Claiborne? Please.

And how the hell were we supposed to get him when the Steelers were offering a fairly high 1st?

Slay actually seems like an interesting candidate for the Chiefs. I just don't know if the Lions would be willing to part with him and then it seems like he's gonna give you problems wanting to restructure his contract or extend it as he held out some this offseason.

Chris Harris makes sense also but he plays for a divisional rival and I get the feeling Elway will be asking too much for a player about to be a FA.

I dunno 🤷*♂️

Is Slay even up for grabs?

Yeah, but he's 30 ... and nothing says the team acquiring him can't agree to a new deal once getting him. Heard the Eagles are interested.

He nailed the Sanders and Sanu trades a day before it happened...

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But I get called a ****ing reerun for suggesting the exact same thing...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It may be a good thing if Aaron Rodgers destroys the Chiefs defense. Brett Veach could use the nudge as the deadline approaches. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <br><br>Plus, the lack of World Series buzz is MLB’s worst look since Bonds broke Aaron’s record. This match-up is too good. <a href="https://t.co/fz0wtOu01U">https://t.co/fz0wtOu01U</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1186775189696077824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Must like the secondary quite a bit.

They are playing well...

They really are. We will definitely need a CB next year but Veach has FA and the draft for that. Linebacker is what I would focus on right now. Question is I don’t know if there are any strting LBs out there that you can trade for

I was sure I'd seen him post that the Chiefs were looking rather for CB/LB.

I've really wanted a good CB for this SB run but I've pretty much come to accept Veach won't be trading for a CB as the price for that position seems to be very high especially that you've got big competition from at least the Eagles who have higher expected draft picks. And if you're going to trade for a CB, it needs to be for a significantly better player than Bashaud Breeland and Claiborne.

That was awhile ago and after the Ramsey trade and the Cards saying no to PP. Veach probably decided he has to look elsewhere for help. I don’t think we need any help on the DL. LB for sure could use some help

Yeah it's stupid no matter if it's someone from 610 or anyone else. Wouldn't it be better if our D was turning the corner and played well and we win? Yes, yes it would.

I would love for our D to step up and make a stand against the Packers. Do I think it’s possible yes. Likely no. Either we try and stop the pass or try and stop the run. They have a balanced attack. Plus Moore is gonna have to play keep away from Rodgers

So we lose big so we can blow some draft capital in desperation? Yeah, no.

No only significantly better, but worth their price in terms of picks/contract.

I don’t see it. And with very good safety play, I think the secondary should be alright.

The Chiefs have good safety play, not very good (so far). I do think the current team has a chance to win the SB as is. I would definitly be more confident if you would replace Breeland by a good CB and then have a strong secondary at all positions.

We just signed a DL. I think if anything, an OL is the biggest need.

Fans want Chiefs to trade for somebody for the sake of trading for somebody lol.

We want to load for bear.

Bengals never trade their players but they have a ton we could use.

Geno Atkins, Preston Brown, William Jackson III, and even Tyler Eifert would have a role on this team.

Listened to terez podcast

He brought up some of those bengals guys to kc and said they just can’t make it work financially in that they wanna keep Jones and by going out after any one you probably lose him next year

So I dunno. Probably just roll with what they have and hope

Josh is a moron for this suggestion. Sure it's a possible silver lining to push things but don't lose...

It’s going to be insufferable when posters bitch at Veach for not making huge moves when he’s paying Pat $40 million AAV.

Two years in a row we’ve got snuffed at the deadline

Listening to terez I’m pretty sure the chiefs felt they had pat pete then the cardinals beat some shit birds

Why tf are we hell bent on extending Jones?

**** this... and anybody who thinks it... Let's get rocked so we can pick up 1 player that won't move the needle that much? No thank you. I hope we continue to show promise on D after last weeks performance and come out with a win. Loser pussies...:rolleyes:

Well I’ll say this

Been watching some A22 the past couple days and Jones just dominates guards all day long, especially as a pass rusher. I’d like to see him be apart of a much improved run defense moving forward but his impact has probably been downplayed by many this year, including myself.

Jones is a phenomenal pass rusher but his run defense is a liability. If he learns to maintain his gaps and literally just be a cog in a gap then it allows the linebackers to come down and make plays. Before Jones was getting out of position and it allowed running backs to run free at will

It may end up being a blessing that they don’t end up trading picks for anyone I guess

But I think no matter what you do, there’s gonna be Holes on the roster. No team doesn’t have them

He’s a game wrecker in the pass game. Mediocre in the run game at best. He’s our DL version of Marcus Peters (sans the bad attitude). He can win you a game with the way he plays, but also freelances way too much, particularly in the run game. It’s what makes him great though!

Side comment...Rodgers probably will rip KC’s D a new one. But there isn’t much out there to acquire that’s going to change the course of this season. Health of our current players is the #1 goal. KC has enough, when close to full strength, to beat anyone home or away.

Can Jones move to DE? if he can then I ain't got any problems with keeping him. I just need to see him step up where stopping the run is concerned, That's all.

I am starting to believe that we play with the team we have.

Not because Veach didnt try but because for whatever reason, teams asking to much or not wanting to help the Chiefs get even better.

Not much left out there that is "on the market" anyway.

Watching the Jets the other night, the one bright spot they had was Leonard Williams. That dude was playing. Not sure why but he has been mentioned as trade bait. I believe I even heard a third rounder could get it done.
Now thats something to consider. Unfortunately thats about all I can see that would help our team and not cost us next years draft.

God i can't wait for this narrative to die. This shit is so overblown.

More people think we get PP

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL trade deadline is 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday, Oct. 29. What kind of action could occur before the deal-making clock runs out? <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSessler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarcSessler</a> proposes one buy/sell move for each AFC team.<a href="https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S">https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S</a> <a href="https://t.co/NpgWrXgi4m">pic.twitter.com/NpgWrXgi4m</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1187026391373451265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Trading a 1st round pick for a safety for this team would have been epically stupid. We don't need another safety.

Perfect example of someone wanting to do something just to say they did.

For a 2020 1st round pick and a 2021 2nd round pick. No thanks.

He would have played CB here.

Idk I kinda wanna become the team that’s trading their way into 10+ picks every year now. Which would probably be smart given what Mahomes’ contract is fixing to look like.

I know he plays "some" corner but you don't give a 1st round pick for a guy who plays "some" corner.

Perfect example, he is playing safety in Pitt and they have some bad corners.

Trade a 2nd for Slay if he is available.

As far as I'm concerned the situation is pretty simple. IF Veach can add a few defensive pieces to this team then we have a real shot of going to the SB. IF he can't, then we're left praying that what we saw against the Texans and Colts has been addressed by Spags schemes and some changes in personnel...let's see what Brett does. Because if we end up losing in the playoffs to the Ravens or Pats via ball control tactics then someone has to take the blame for that.

Watch the Panthers trade Cam Newton.

They should.

This. He’s done.

I saw some scuttlebutt about him and the Bears...probably just Twitter rumors.

Interesting though...

Well. If that's so then Nagy is not nearly as smart as we once thought he was.

You haven't been following.

Taking into consideration the recent trades and the stance that the Cards GM has taken on PP, I've had in mind that it would cost the Chiefs at minimum a 1st and 3rd round picks. Now, I'm pretty sure that a 1st and a 2nd round pick would get it done. That's crazy considering I've had in mind all along that Peterson was worth about a mid 2nd round pick.

Similarly, you're not getting Slay for only a 2nd round pick. A few years ago yes, not now.

But but I was told we need better CBs

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fun Fact: Through 7 weeks, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> secondary have a 79.7 Passer Rating Allowed when the opposing quarterback has a clean pocket, the 2nd best in the NFL.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1187062632257409026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't get the Leonard Williams rumors. If you're rebuilding, you don't trade a player in his fourth season if he's good. Is Williams underperforming?

And yeah, I know that contract year is coming up, but if you're rebuilding you should have room to keep good players.

Imo after hearing that Josh Gordon has gone to IR, If I was Veach I'd be even MORE determined to bring in some players because honestly guys, the Pats have probably never been more vulnerable offensively than they are now. Now is exactly the time to strike I think and make sure our defense is for real by the time the playoffs come around.

one difference maker on defense and we can crush that pathetic collection of talent

610 has some terrible takes.

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ARE WE STILL IN PANICK MODE?!

Are there players out there that would make a huge difference? I'd say a few, but what would it cost to get them? Arizona has made it clear they're not going to give up PP without someone backing up the pick/player Brink's truck, so that ship has sailed as far as I'm concerned. Let's not forget the PMII extension and whatever we're going to do with Jones. That money alone will limit what we can do long-term with a player obtained by trade. It's just not wise to trade away draft capital for a rental player you can't keep. If you can obtain a superstar that is under a reasonable long-term contract, yes, you look at it, but not on someone who'll be pounding at the GM's door for a boatload of cash in the off season.

Y’all so worried about the Patriots like we’re just coasting to the AFC championship. We gotta get there first. And that might mean beating Indy, in Indy. Not something I’m comfortable with.

We’ll beat their ****ing ass if we get another chance.

A healthy Chiefs team beats Indy no matter where they play, and we can dance on Justin Houston's bones when that happens.

If you're basing a desire for a trade on what you've seen over the last few weeks, just consider this:

We're about to add to that team a Pro Bowl LT, a WR2, and a pass-rushing DE/DT to the mix. For nothing other than the check they're already getting.

610 is full of hacks that spend all their air time inhaling their own exhaust

I totally agree with your overall premise. However, the chances of that WR2 being available for the playoffs are extremely questionable at best.

Don't discount the first 2 plays of the game, brother! :D

This. I think that the defense is good enough to get us a SB as long as our offense is led by a healthy Mahomes. A hobbled or injured Mahomes significantly hurts our chances which is why protecting him should be priority #1.

As shitty as it has been at times, the defense has actually done it's part. If the offense does what it did last year, the Chiefs are 7-0 right now.

Injuries happen. Hopefully it helps this year that the Chiefs can get and be healthy down the stretch for a change.

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• The Jets are listening to offers on former top-five pick Leonard Williams. The big defensive-linemen is a better player than Beasley, but carries similar logistics —he’s on a pricy fifth-year option and is not signed for 2020. Teams like the Chiefs and Eagles are seen as sensible landing spots for Williams, if the right price can be found. And that price, because of those big financials, might be relatively affordable for another team, maybe right around a third-round pick.

So a 3rd for Williams? That's interesting. Him and Jones inside with Nnadi and company would be interesting.

Yeah but you can't pay both Williams and Chris Jones. So you'd be giving up a 3rd (which the Chiefs have a lot of success with) for a half season rental. That's not good business.

pay one tag trade the other

I’d offer them a 4th.

My only issue is that if you trade for Williams....then it might limit your ability to pay Jones now. But you could let Williams walk and get a comp pick the next offseason.

That's what I was thinking. Like the Eagles did with Golden Tate.

Trade a 3rd, he walks and signs elsewhere you get a 3rd round comp pick.

That deal doesn’t seem realistic to me. Could be wrong.

If they'd take a 3rd, shit, I'd do that. Some guys will walk and sign big deals from here this offseason I'm guessing so you could recoup that pretty easily.

He's a good player too, could really help the defense.

And I don’t see us signing any big names in FA.

I would be interested in seeing what the interior rush could look like with those two.

I already think we could potentially give the Pats offense some problems but all bets would be off with a Williams addition.

EDIT: Upon further review though, does seem like he’s having quite the unspectacular season.

LET'S GET LEONARD!!!! #THEWILL2WILLIAMS

Nope.

Eh, it's with the Jets. Granted, he should be better, but that's why you could get him so cheap.

He plays with the Jets and it’s a 3-4.