K.Hunt withholding full truth from leadership in the face of an unambiguous inquiry 'made us' levy some sanction on him.

C.Hunt's error wasn't so much in releasing him as sanction for personal breach of trust, it was in not fully exploring all avenues for sanction of K.Hunt for that which best balanced the level of sanction merited and the retention of our right to value in his skillset.

You’re right, he lied. I hope like hell Pat is never caught in a fib.

Literally ZERO evidence of this. You could make the argument that there’s no way we trade for Clark if we keep Hill, but we did.

It’s an emotional argument without merit.

Well that’s where positional value comes into play. It’s a lot easier to cut a RB, especially with Reid’s ability to plug and play there, than it is a QB or even a WR like Hill.

Hunt’s release was a combination of lying, playing RB, and most importantly a viral video.

Lol ok.

I’m sure this team would’ve still traded for Clark if they had Hill and Hunt. They didn’t even know about the audio tape before they made the trade. Now I REALLY know you’re a ****ing moron.

It's right ****ing here.

I've got plenty. :#

I hope Clark hangs the big orange and brown clown shoes he got in return for shitcanning Hunt somewhere highly visible, so he never forgets the ****ing lesson he learned.

They would have. Reid does not give a ****, unless you lie to him repeatedly.

So, again, you have ZERO evidence.

You seem to have also missed this question amid your various emotionally-driven insults:

Did the Patriots give a shit about Gronk, Edelman, and Harrison’s incidents? How about Dillon, Haynesworth, and Talib? These are just off the top of my head. If you want to extend it to drugs and other violent offenses, the list gets insanely longer.

Agreed. See, we can agree on some things, fraz.

How many of those guys hit women and a viral video went around causing outrage?

And I don’t need evidence to say it’s very unlikely the Chiefs would’ve traded for Clark if they held onto both Hunt and Hill after their situations and releasing of video/audio tapes that went viral and caused public outrage.

Oh look another moron. It’s not about Reid. It’s about Clark. There’s absolutely no chance that would’ve happened.

You very clearly don't "need" evidence for any of your takes.

Way to move the goalposts, though. Previously, your only concern was with domestic violence, which the Patriots very clearly have zero issue with. Now, it's very specific violence with very specific evidence of that violence. Given that those names were off the top of my head, I have no idea how many hit women (it's probably at least TWO of them) or how many include videos.

LMAO How is it not about Reid? He has final say. He runs the show. He's the one bringing in players like Hill and Clark in the first place. He made the trade and gave Clark that giant contract a month after it was known that Hill was under investigation.

With everybody in the media at the Chiefs throats all offseason about the Chiefs keeping both Hill and Hunt despite the tapes there’s no ****ing way they would’ve traded for Clark too.

Seriously, how ****ing dumb do you have to be to not understand this. The fact that they did the right thing with Hunt gave them the ability to make this move. If they didn’t, there’s no way they could do it without making those situations even worse.

If that doesn't make it clear that the Chiefs don't actually GAF, I don't know what does. They made a stupid, emotional decision that may very well bite them in the ass.

Even if that is true, which it probably isn't, who would give a shit?

:facepalm:

I’m not moving goalposts you ****ing moron. I thought it was common knowledge that violence against women (especially with tapes attached) is the thing that causes the most public outrage. Nobody gives a **** about the other stuff. Hunt wouldn’t have been cut if he did something those guys did. Shit, he wouldn’t have even been cut if it were a guy. It wouldn’t even be a story for longer than a day. Those situations are clearly not relevant, but you’re too dense to see that.

Maybe but this is as bad of PR as I’ve seen from this team since Belcher.

It’s like some of you don’t even get that Clark was traded before the Chiefs and the world even heard the audio tapes. The Tyreek situation wasn’t even remotely comparable to Hunt’s until that happened.

Did you guys just start paying attention to this kind of shit? It’s not a coincidence that Hunt was released after the tape was, and Hill wasn’t suspended until after his audio tape was released.

That tells you all you need to know. Of course the Chiefs don’t care. It’s all a response to the public outrage. And in the case with Hunt, he was a ****ing RB who also lied to them about the whole thing and they were completely blindsided.

What a ****ing joke that they cut him in the first place

KcChiefs: boy scout world champions...

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...12434531950593

**** this guy

:clap: This x infinity.

Yep. That ass bag will be in the crowd praising the next team that signs Hill.

Chief Fan wants to cut Hill.

One of the obvious differences being that Hunt was actually proven guilty on tape, while there’s very little evidence at all in Tyreek’s situation?

How did nobody in the comments tweet that to him.

Basically he's saying some violence is ok, while other violence isn't?

Well which is it you virtue signaling chuckle ****?

What a goddamn phony.

But even then, we know exactly what Hunt did.

We have no clue if Tyreek is actually guilty of anything.

What was the actual charge for which he was "proven guilty"?

Ummm you know what I meant. We saw the tape. Hunt didn’t deny it was him in the tape. I’m not talking about “guilty” in the court of law.

Again, are you ****ing reeruned?

Someone from our org obviously pissed this tool off. I can’t believe Chris Simms left Bleacher Report to work with this prick.

Tyreek is guilty in the court of public opinion...until we release him and he signs with a media darling team and suddenly the narrative will change.

"In hindsight, we never actually had proof that Hill did the things he was accused of doing, and this country revolves around the idea of innocent until proven guilty. Hill deserves that benefit of the doubt."

No. **** that. Clark Hunt can tell the media to shove it right up their self righteous asses.

And still, you refuse to answer the question. That appears to be your MO.

I never said he was found guilty in the court of law. If your questions were relevant, maybe I would answer them. Bringing up irrelevant shit appears to be yours.

All I know is this; if you're incapable of successfully manipulating and handling the local Kansas City media which is comprised of some of the dumbest mother****ers to ever walk the face of the Earth?

Then you are perhaps too stupid to both own and or coach a professional football team.

See, he just says he's learned and working to be a better person and all is good! Exactly like I predicted. no twatter outrage, they've already forgotten about it. Now he gets to compete against us in the playoffs next year possibly!


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There was an article that asked if Dorsey would go after tyreek if he was cut. The source said that Dorsey pretty much exhausted his political capital after the hunt signing. Maybe it's an uncredible source. But id have to think the NFL and the owners were not happy with what Dorsey did. I imagine most teams know Clark took a huge huge fall for the sake of the leagues shield.

:clap:

Wut?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Q: Why didn’t you tell the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> the whole story?<br><br>Kareem Hunt: “I tried to tell them as much as possible.” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#browns</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1128724248279883779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yep. Many predicted it.

:clap: A- ****ING - MEN!

Maybe the Chiefs learned their lesson and waited on Tyreek. But you'd think the pressure to cut Tyreek would be even greater if they truly cut him because of the optics of what happened. The more I think about it, the more I think Clark Hunt took the fall for the NFL. After the Chiefs cut Kareem everyone completely forgot that the NFL basically botched the whole investigation process.

Regardless, the NFL owes us. BIG time.

When confronted with the new information in the summer that allegedly he kicked the women out in the hall. He told the Chiefs he never left the hotel room. Lied straight to Hunt and Reid’s face. That’s not trying to be as truthful as possible. Just ****ing own your lies. We all have seen the tale. You left the room.

Kareem was way different than Tyreek. There was no question of guilt and his lies. 100 million people saw him kick a women on the ground. The Chiefs had no choice. Blame Kareem, it’s all in him for kicking a women and then lying. All hotels have cameras in the halls now. He’s a moron to not know a tape existed somewhere.

Tyreek situation is still not clear to the public what the facts are.

Maybe he took the fall anticipating what was coming around the corner?

Perhaps he can wear these bowling shoes to the next owners meeting and put his feet up on the boardroom table. Just to let him know that he's not ****ing around and doesn't want to take about Tyreek unless they say he's perma-banned from the league, or the deal is so sweet the other 31 teams will regret being born.

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This is total BS. You lied to the Chiefs. You were not truthful at the time. He hasnt apologized or talked to the girl. Sounds like your path for rehab and contrition is going along great. Your practicing with the new team, Lying about the old team.


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Cutting Hunt was dumb, but at no point last season did I think, "If only Kareem was still on the team, they'd be so much better." Damien Williams was excellent, and the offense continued to light people up almost every week.

Jesus, the kid can't even take responsibility for his actions at this point? **** this bullshit.

Good riddance to this habitual liar. May the ACL's jump, twist, and shout.

i miss kareem. i miss his style of running.

Another Dorsey draft pick suspended. Antonio Callaway suspended 4 games.

Kareem Hunt gives another "I need to lay low for a while" after getting caught AGAIN getting into trouble at a bar.

Yet the media treats Dorsey's team like a media darling while attacking the team that Dorsey drafted here in Kansas City. Interesting.

I've seen a lot of people talk about obj and Mayfield imploding. People tend to only note the negative things said about their team.

The league knows baker/Mahomes is their new Manning/Brady cash cow.

Good versus bad is a classic marketable storyline

They repaid us by allowing the Pats to hold our WR the whole game, and then call that Dee Ford offside penalty to allow the Pats to yet another SB. All while not calling a penalty on them. The NFL doesn’t care about the Chiefs. Not as long as butt finger Bob Kraft owns a franchise.

I'm talking mostly about Dorsey. Considering how much the media has ripped the character decisions of the Chiefs it's just interesting that Dorsey has not only been mostly untouched, he's been labeled a redeemer because he's giving Kareem Hunt a second chance, yet somehow Veach almost looks like the villain for drafting Kareem (he didn't, of course). The media hasn't been way more positive about the Browns than critical. I don't count Colin Cowherd who just says shit to get under people's skin.

And in comparison, the media ripped on Tyreek pretty much every day even when there was no story. Kareem Hunt did something even stupider and you've barely hurt a mouse fart from the media about it.

This team isn't quite the same without Kareem I don't care what anyone says.

Watching Baker use him on dump off passes and running game is going to be rough, knowing he should be a Chief.

Reid made Kareem, and he (Hunt) knows it. Cleveland can try to emulate it, copy it, mirror it...it just won't work

**** Kareem Hunt.

This.

Yep

I expect Hunt's game to decline significantly with the Chute Pickles.

FAX

We have Mahomes. I give less than no ****s.

The team is better with Kareem. But it doesn't bother me that we lost him. He would've been suspended last year anyway, and he would have been up for contract next year (which I would not want to give to a RB in this system). Damien Williams does a lot of things differently and frankly, much as I love Mahomes, Mahomes should have used him much better in the AFC title game.

But I have a feeling we're going to really like the combo of Williams, Darwin, and Hyde.

Reid turned scrubs like Spencer Ware and Charkandrixk West into household names

Kareem Hunt is very talented, but he’s gonna have worse YPG averages than Williams. Williams is a lesser back but superior coaching, scheme, and quarterbacking will help fill out his statsheet

And that Damien Williams speed...:)

RB plug and play. Not worried.

The "Chute Pickles"?

ROFL

Anyway, I'm done with Hunt. Done caring about it either way. The Chiefs offense is not going to feel his loss in any way, shape, or form going forward so it doesn't matter.
And this guy will absolutely **** himself out of the league before 5 years have expired

We basically would have had this year with Hunt before his contract exploded. We ended up getting Damien williams for 2 years at basement prices. Im pretty over it. And hunt will get suspended again. The guy still doesn't get it.

Hunt never fumbles..like literally never

rewacth that benglas game to realize what type of back he was becoming..

Hunt is a different level back. .

but our offense will be fine. . like u said our scheme etc will make any competent RB look good

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I think that would literally be once.

doesnt count. .that was a warmup. . a mulligan

Watch ANY highlights of the Chiefs/donx the last few years. Hunt carries the Chiefs.

Yep. Im still not over it in some regards. Gonna be tough to see him play in Cleveland.

The RB by committee produced similar stats to Hunts. The reason the offense took a 7 ppg in production was because Hunt AND Watkins were out

Pat is going to be carrying the team for years and years. Why is everyone worked up about a RB, yet again?

I agree, but I'm not sure why we couldn't simply have both. I don't see the downside in trotting out an elite RB on a rookie contract.

What games were you watching?

He’s had a single 100 yard game vs. Denver (MNF comeback), and we were actually trailing by 10 when we abandoned the run and put the ball in the MVP’s hands

Because he kicked a girl in a drunken stupor and then lied about it multiple times over months. That's why.

I will never forgive Clark if the Browns somehow win a super bowl before us.

This league is about one thing and one thing only, winning championships. If we miss out on a championship because Clark got his feelings hurt then he should sell the team. It’s been 50 years, I don’t care if we have a team full of convicts. Get it done.